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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
Come on...sure goaltending was important. But Utica has a brutal roster. He deserves some credit
- CanuckDon


I definitely do, just tempering the expectations a bit. The way he gets talked about by some (despite being passed over the past few seasons) you'd think he will turn this team completely around. I think there will be improvements in many areas, but dont think he will perform the same miracles with an equally awful lineup in the NHL
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM ET
Gerard Gallant would be a coach I'd look at to replace numb nuts.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM ET
they are signed at 10 million a year for multi year contracts. Lets just wait and see how Chicago will be doing when they are near the end of those contracts.
- Codes1087

And Hossa is signed for 4 more years and is 38 now.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:30 PM ET
I definitely do, just tempering the expectations a bit. The way he gets talked about by some (despite being passed over the past few seasons) you'd think he will turn this team completely around. I think there will be improvements in many areas, but dont think he will perform the same miracles with an equally awful lineup in the NHL
- WhiteLie

For sure. We will suck next year no matter who is coaching
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:31 PM ET
Looking ahead to this draft & more down the road.....

Although we have added more winger talent depth at C & D we still have lots of work to do. UFA's r not the answer since rare many top talent hits the market let alone top C's & D's & trading for them is very costly. With us most likely to pick a C this draft to go with Gaudette thats a good step going forward. That said never can have enough top D prospects in the system. Problem is cannot get enough picks fast enough. Next draft has a Dahlin that we need luck to get & thats hard to expect. Stud D IMO r ALWAYS the best choice but patience & good fortune play such a pivotal role its not something we can realistically bank on.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
I'm surprised nobody asked the twins if they were open to being split up next season for 5v5.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
I definitely do, just tempering the expectations a bit. The way he gets talked about by some (despite being passed over the past few seasons) you'd think he will turn this team completely around. I think there will be improvements in many areas, but dont think he will perform the same miracles with an equally awful lineup in the NHL
- WhiteLie


Next year is a new year & the line up & new coach will be a fresh start.
Expectations will vary but we can expect more growth if not the results in the win column being the measuring stick. New core to emerge & a new Identity is what we need to see. Its all about patience.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:37 PM ET



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
And Hossa is signed for 4 more years and is 38 now.
- A_SteamingLombardi


The guy is still a horse unlike Gaborik & Brown & only 1 contract.
He alone is not hamstringing the Hawks.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
I definitely do, just tempering the expectations a bit. The way he gets talked about by some (despite being passed over the past few seasons) you'd think he will turn this team completely around. I think there will be improvements in many areas, but dont think he will perform the same miracles with an equally awful lineup in the NHL
- WhiteLie


Green is a very good coach in respects to getting his players to play his system and works very well with young players, instructing them to how to be complete players.

I certainly have no problem letting Green get a crack at coaching this team but IMO he is still the ideal coach to be sending the kids to learn from. I'm not sold his "systems" or in game adjustments will be any better than WD.

The Canucks need to commit to allowing their prospects to develop in the AHL and junior leagues, something they have for the most part refused to do.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
For sure. We will suck next year no matter who is coaching
- CanuckDon




I still hate you if you were wondering
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
For sure. We will suck next year no matter who is coaching
- CanuckDon



Suck as far as not a PO team is fine.
Suck with horrible games night in night out would be the Titanic.
I don't see the latter being the case.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Green is a very good coach in respects to getting his players to play his system and works very well with young players, instructing them to how to be complete players.

I certainly have no problem letting Green get a crack at coaching this team but IMO he is still the ideal coach to be sending the kids to learn from. I'm not sold his "systems" or in game adjustments will be any better than WD.

The Canucks need to commit to allowing their prospects to develop in the AHL and junior leagues, something they have for the most part refused to do.

- belcherbd

Agreed. The "refusal" to let players marinate in junior leagues is due to ownerships desire to sell tickets
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM ET
What makes you think NSH can take down the hawks?

Mine are:

CHI
MIN
ANA
SJS

NYR
OTT
WAS
PIT(really not sure about this one)

- NorthNuck


Just a feeling. NSH can roll 4 lines at you and have three pretty solid dmen that can score...plus better goaltending and to me Rinne is due in the PO's. NSH has kind of flown under the radar and I'm not sure they are getting the credit they deserve. Usually get 1 or 2 upsets in rd 1 I think this could be one of them.

But I've called the Hawks out before and they end up still winning cups...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM ET


I still hate you if you were wondering

- belcherbd

but it's not Monday flagged
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Green is a very good coach in respects to getting his players to play his system and works very well with young players, instructing them to how to be complete players.

I certainly have no problem letting Green get a crack at coaching this team but IMO he is still the ideal coach to be sending the kids to learn from. I'm not sold his "systems" or in game adjustments will be any better than WD.

The Canucks need to commit to allowing their prospects to develop in the AHL and junior leagues, something they have for the most part refused to do.

- belcherbd


This is definitely the area where I have lesser expectations and where I think goaltending has propped his results a bit.

I agree with this whole post though
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Looking ahead to this draft & more down the road.....

Although we have added more winger talent depth at C & D we still have lots of work to do. UFA's r not the answer since rare many top talent bits the market let alone top C's & D's & trading for them is very costly. With us most likely to pick a C this draft to go with Gaudette thats a good step going forward. That said never can have enough top D prospects in the system. Problem is cannot get enough picks fast enough. Next draft has a Dahlin that we need luck to get & thats hard to expect. Stud D IMO r ALWAYS the best choice but patience & good fortune play such a pivotal role its not something we can realistically bank on.

- Nighthawk


I disagree... The development curve for D is such that drafting and developing a particular targeted skillset should yield great results and allow you to focus early picks on elite offensive skillsets which are evident at that age. It's just that nobody in this sport thinks outside the goddamn box.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:46 PM ET
Agreed. The "refusal" to let players marinate in junior leagues is due to ownerships desire to sell tickets
- CanuckDon


That was a one off year with JV & McCant lol
Hope that is over with & stay the course we r now on.
Exception is a kid makes the club on sheer talent & is ready. Eg BB
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM ET
For sure. We will suck next year no matter who is coaching
- CanuckDon



and "the pain" is coming.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM ET
That was a one off year with JV & McCant lol
Hope that is over with & stay the course we r now on.
Exception is a kid makes the club on sheer talent & is ready. Eg BB

- Nighthawk

I agree. Sounds like Aquilini has finally backed off
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
and "the pain" is coming.
- zazzle

It can't get any worse...it really can't. The hockey the veterans have been playing the last 5 years has been brutal from an entertainment perspective. At least some of these new kids can skate and have a bit of offensive flair
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
I disagree... The development curve for D is such that drafting and developing a particular targeted skillset should yield great results and allow you to focus early picks on elite offensive skillsets which are evident at that age. It's just that nobody in this sport thinks outside the goddamn box.
- DrChristianTroy



Oh i've believed D stepping into the NHL is the hardest thing to do other than in goal. Furthermore other than a Pronger type D picking D early over elite F's is not the way to go. Explains why a Seth Jones slips down. Elite C historically r picked 1st.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
It can't get any worse...it really can't. The hockey the veterans have been playing the last 5 years has been brutal from an entertainment perspective. At least some of these new kids can skate and have a bit of offensive flair
- CanuckDon



yes it can but let's not go there.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:54 PM ET




- WhiteLie


He's that kid that every parent wish they had
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:55 PM ET
yes it can but let's not go there.
- zazzle

I suppose we good finish 31st next season
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