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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 12 @ 2:57 AM ET
Do u have a Foote fetish?
- Nighthawk


I like players named Nolan.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 2:58 AM ET
Can we suck for 2 more seasons so we have a shot at this kid


http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=240385

- Reubenkincade

yes he's pretty awesome. His brother is in this draft. Both are great players and this years foote brother is said to be a safe pick with a guaranteed nhl career (from scouting report)
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 3:01 AM ET
Honest question.

Dio you think there is an available coach that could take this team into the playoffs, not contend but compete.

It you had your druthers, do you believe any of the employed coaches could?

By that, do you see a coach whose strategy would accent this teams strengths?

- Pres.cup

yes

by employed do you mean employed by us?

I also want to be clear that success is also hinged on the supporting coaches not just HC. THe right staff can make a team a winner by being complete
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 3:04 AM ET
Jon Cooper, i brought him up yesterday.
- Nighthawk

he's good for sure.....wonder if he's nearing the chopping block or not
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 12 @ 3:13 AM ET
he's good for sure.....wonder if he's nearing the chopping block or not
- SMBDragon


I wouldn't think so
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 3:14 AM ET
well we got exactly what I said needed to be gone... I named WD, lidster and pearns as what needed to go, keeping malhotra and jarvis.
Apparently Linden and JB agree exactly with this
going in the right direction

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 12 @ 3:18 AM ET
Green coming soon
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 3:22 AM ET
I wouldn't think so
- Nighthawk

Id agree with that as well, but with missing the playoffs you never know.

So here's a thought, LA tends to be pretty aggressive in going after what they want. Who does LA pursue for a coach? They'll try to tie up someone fast.

where does all the coaches end up regarding available positions?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:37 AM ET
well we got exactly what I said needed to be gone... I named WD, lidster and pearns as what needed to go, keeping malhotra and jarvis.
Apparently Linden and JB agree exactly with this
going in the right direction


- SMBDragon


MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Apr 12 @ 6:38 AM ET
Team will improve by 10-12 pts max. But I'm banking on another bottom 3 finish. Coach don't matter. If they hire Green its cause they didn't wanna lose him. I suspect WD already knows his next job. Green won't matter next year. Hopefully shows improvement the year after. But it's the personnel. Not the coaching.

It's all about bottom 3 next year. It's what we need. This draft won't be any saviour.

- storm88

Great post!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:27 AM ET
I could see a trade involved with the underachieving Flyers where Tanev and Bear cheese are involved for something like SanHeim and a1st. Flyers need to do something as the core forwards are late prime.
- Reubenkincade

Flyers have a lot of prospects that are being passed over by ones drafted later and later.
Hagg, Sanhiem, Morin find themselves behind Myers and Provorov. Morin and Hagg put up very JV like numbers this year.

Scott Laughton also seems to be finding it hard to find place on that roster.

Tanev for Morin, Laughton, 2nd.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 12 @ 8:39 AM ET
Flyers have a lot of prospects that are being passed over by ones drafted later and later.
Hagg, Sanhiem, Morin find themselves behind Myers and Provorov. Morin and Hagg put up very JV like numbers this year.

Scott Laughton also seems to be finding it hard to find place on that roster.

Tanev for Morin, Laughton, 2nd.

- manvanfan


Wouldn't it be better to get their 1st that has lotto implications then failed prospects?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:40 AM ET
Wouldn't it be better to get their 1st that has lotto implications then failed prospects?
- Nuck4U

Do you actually think Philly is going to give up a lotto 1st?

Who says failed prospects? Prospects that aren't getting roster space. JB seems to do well with others teams "failed" prospects.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 12 @ 8:43 AM ET
Do you actually think Philly is going to give up a lotto 1st?
- manvanfan


I don't know. But ASL said it should be easy for JB to add 1st rounders if he did his job
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 12 @ 8:53 AM ET
Ran simulator today and it came out:

1. Bolts
2. Sabers
3. Vegas
4. Avalanche
5. Canucks

I was told also that teams get rewarded for tanking. That odds were statistically against anything else. Darn that simulator. Must be broken. They get another chance at it, right?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:03 AM ET
I don't know. But ASL said it should be easy for JB to add 1st rounders if he did his job
- Nuck4U

1st rounders are worth a ton with the cap barely going up. I would say it is much harder then it used to be. I like that JB gets prospects that are further along, it's much less of a wonder what they will turn out to be.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:09 AM ET
Did my playoff pool with friends last night! Drunk and severely lacking sleep. Picked Boston, Anaheim, Columbus, Edmonton players and picked Columbus to win the cup.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 12 @ 9:19 AM ET
My luck on simulator

1)Canucks
2)Devils
3)Vegas
4)Colorado
5)Phoenix

Last year I tried this thing many times and always got 4 or 5, this year 1st try and 1st OA. Don't think I will try again, might ruin our luck.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
My luck on simulator

1)Canucks
2)Devils
3)Vegas
4)Colorado
5)Phoenix

Last year I tried this thing many times and always got 4 or 5, this year 1st try and 1st OA. Don't think I will try again, might ruin our luck.

- Reubenkincade

4OA- 1OA- 4OA- 1OA- 4OA. From my simulator, Van's either drafting 1st of 4th.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
Honest question.

Dio you think there is an available coach that could take this team into the playoffs, not contend but compete.

It you had your druthers, do you believe any of the employed coaches could?

By that, do you see a coach whose strategy would accent this teams strengths?

- Pres.cup



It has nothing to do with the coach. It has to do with the players being rolled out onto the ice.

I think Benning is doomed . His only saving grace this year is committing to a rebuild.

If the team was stripped down and we sucked fans would understand and support. Everyone understood about trading for assets as we did at TDL.

Torts warned Benning that this core is stale and yet he kept the three biggest pieces that are the style of this disfuncional team.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
Did my playoff pool with friends last night! Drunk and severely lacking sleep. Picked Boston, Anaheim, Columbus, Edmonton players and picked Columbus to win the cup.
- manvanfan

You were definitely drunk.
I went all in on Washington & Chicago.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
It has nothing to do with the coach. It has to do with the players being rolled out onto the ice.

I think Benning is doomed . His only saving grace this year is committing to a rebuild.

If the team was stripped down and we sucked fans would understand and support. Everyone understood about trading for assets as we did at TDL.

Torts warned Benning that this core is stale and yet he kept the three biggest pieces that are the style of this disfuncional team.

- VANTEL

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 12 @ 9:52 AM ET
It has nothing to do with the coach. It has to do with the players being rolled out onto the ice.

I think Benning is doomed . His only saving grace this year is committing to a rebuild.

If the team was stripped down and we sucked fans would understand and support. Everyone understood about trading for assets as we did at TDL.

Torts warned Benning that this core is stale and yet he kept the three biggest pieces that are the style of this disfuncional team.

- VANTEL

Very true.

Focus has now shifted to Benning as has been discussed before on here. If ownership isn't happy where the team is concerned in 1-2 years we could see another managerial shift.

Until the roster is changed enough where the Sedins aren't running the ship and the mediocre leadership that guys like Edler show...Like you said Benning is dooming himself a bit here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 10:00 AM ET
Very true.

Focus has now shifted to Benning as has been discussed before on here. If ownership isn't happy where the team is concerned in 1-2 years we could see another managerial shift.

Until the roster is changed enough where the Sedins aren't running the ship and the mediocre leadership that guys like Edler show...Like you said Benning is dooming himself a bit here.

- LordHumungous



I am ready to welcome new management.

Trevor is too close to the team and really doesn't know what is best for the team . He thinks with his heart not his head.

Benning is paying for Gillis signings but in three years there has not been a lot to stand tall about. The prospect pool is stronger but we are still rolling out a roster of Skille Megna Chaput. This should have been the roster 3 years ago not year 4.

Edler is going to walk just like Hamhuis and Vrbata did with no returns.

We failed with one rokie coach but will bring in a second rookie coach with the same roster, while experienced coaches remain unemployed.

This team is too nice and nice guys finish last
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
Did my playoff pool with friends last night! Drunk and severely lacking sleep. Picked Boston, Anaheim, Columbus, Edmonton players and picked Columbus to win the cup.
- manvanfan


Not sure how your pool is set up but I have won pools in the past with no players left in finals. Loaded up on powerplay units from teams, always grab the defenseman.
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