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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 11:38 PM ET
he's that little nerd that speaks weird but is a brilliant scout
- SMBDragon

A brilliant scout? That's an overstatement, there's an article that just came out regarding his lack of good history in the first round. He has found quality in the other rounds though. I would hardly call him brilliant.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:39 PM ET
who's one of the players to actually knock McDavid on his ass? Virtanen! he's gonna be good just wait
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:39 PM ET
Better to just assume that they'll pick #5 and that anything higher is gravy
- Nucker101


I realize I'm behind. Catching up. we have a 12% chance to win lottery. not good. Even worse than last years odds as Vegas has eaten up a few % pts to be on par with the 3rd best odds. I don't expect a top 3 pick.

ex) COL is at 17.9% to win, as opposed to 20% for TO last year
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 11 @ 11:41 PM ET
4 lotteries. Only reason they are relevant is cause the 4th got them a generational talent (or even more than that). Everything else that happened (coaches/gm/ufa's) is because of them landing McJesus. Luck.

Where would T.O. be without Matthews? Not this far along the rebuild. Luck.

Gillis drafted nothing top 6. JB is just starting out. aside from JV (who could still be a very useful player cause of his style) most of his 1sts haven't even hit the NHL. It takes time.

- storm88


You missed pinning the tail on that one. Though his drafting was an epic fail he did pick up Bo. You know the kid we are wrapping this franchise around now.

So pinning this on your a$$ now you got the rest right. BB is showing JB can pick in the first round too.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:45 PM ET
20 bucks says (cause its Vancouver, and our luck.) we drop out of the top 3. As much as I would love being I #1/2/3.... I'm also a realistic Canuck fan who has been poop on far too many times. Don't get your hopes too high until after we hear the order folks.
- Crazybagoham

your a fan but you call the twins sisters
? your a pos bs fan
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:45 PM ET
A brilliant scout? That's an overstatement, there's an article that just came out regarding his lack of good history in the first round. He has found quality in the other rounds though. I would hardly call him brilliant.
- LeftCoaster

perhaps sometimes it just seems that way due to the canucks draft history
Look at the last few decades of canuck gms drafting, looks like a genius in comparison lol
kevingram
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Comox, BC
Joined: 09.27.2013

Apr 11 @ 11:46 PM ET
What do you guys think it takes to get Duchene out of Col?

Would Tanev plus Baer do it? Maybe add a second?

Move Hutton and possibly Sutter for a winger (E. Kane)?

Sign Oshie and Alzner maybe even Boyle.

Oshie Duchene Kane
Grandlund Bo Boeser
Sedin Sedin Erickson
JV / Goldy Gaunce Boyle/Dorsett

Edler Stech
Alzner Tram
Guddy Juolevi

Not that unreasonable?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:46 PM ET
Next year will be little difference than this year. People screamed for Willies head all year, who do you think is next?

If Trevor PR guy Why TF is he President?

I am honestly looking forward to game 82 next year

You are not rebuilding you are still retooling on the fly. I don't know why people have trouble with the word retool.

A while ago I thought they rebuilt , I was wrong

- VANTEL


Team will improve by 10-12 pts max. But I'm banking on another bottom 3 finish. Coach don't matter. If they hire Green its cause they didn't wanna lose him. I suspect WD already knows his next job. Green won't matter next year. Hopefully shows improvement the year after. But it's the personnel. Not the coaching.

It's all about bottom 3 next year. It's what we need. This draft won't be any saviour.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:47 PM ET
.....(frank)in idiot, he's embarrassing
- LeftCoaster

your embarrasing , judging people by their punctuation and how they speak
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:49 PM ET
A brilliant scout? That's an overstatement, there's an article that just came out regarding his lack of good history in the first round. He has found quality in the other rounds though. I would hardly call him brilliant.
- LeftCoaster

And even if he was a brilliant scout, how does that make him a GM?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:50 PM ET
Team will improve by 10-12 pts max. But I'm banking on another bottom 3 finish. Coach don't matter. If they hire Green its cause they didn't wanna lose him. I suspect WD already knows his next job. Green won't matter next year. Hopefully shows improvement the year after. But it's the personnel. Not the coaching.

It's all about bottom 3 next year. It's what we need. This draft won't be any saviour.

- storm88



Why will it be better?

Sedins will be older
No Hansen
Edler more brainfarts and less interest
No Miller

They could improve but they could also go the other way
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 11:52 PM ET
And even if he was a brilliant scout, how does that make him a GM?
- A_SteamingLombardi

It doesn't, I'm not a fan, and I believe if he stays on as GM this whole rebuild is gonna take longer than it should. He has done some positive things though.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:52 PM ET
Why will it be better?

Sedins will be older
No Hansen
Edler more brainfarts and less interest
No Miller

They could improve but they could also go the other way

- VANTEL

you may be right after that comment miller made
Its possible hes afraid of certain coaches.... he had a cr*p year under hitch
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:52 PM ET
Why will it be better?

Sedins will be older
No Hansen
Edler more brainfarts and less interest
No Miller

They could improve but they could also go the other way

- VANTEL

twins contract year
goldy is better than Hansen
Edler will come in with a fire or be gone
Marky is better with more games played
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:53 PM ET
It doesn't, I'm not a fan, and I believe if he stays on as GM this whole rebuild is gonna take longer than it should. He has done some positive things though.
- LeftCoaster

It's already taken 3 years to get started.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:56 PM ET
What do you guys think it takes to get Duchene out of Col?

Would Tanev plus Baer do it? Maybe add a second?

Move Hutton and possibly Sutter for a winger (E. Kane)?

Sign Oshie and Alzner maybe even Boyle.

Oshie Duchene Kane
Grandlund Bo Boeser
Sedin Sedin Erickson
JV / Goldy Gaunce Boyle/Dorsett

Edler Stech
Alzner Tram
Guddy Juolevi

Not that unreasonable?

- kevingram

Did it work on NHL 17?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
It's already taken 3 years to get started.
- A_SteamingLombardi


And still wont next year
kevingram
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Comox, BC
Joined: 09.27.2013

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
Did it work on NHL 17?
- pker2theend



I don't play video games.

But a team with abundance of D, making a trade with a team with a complete lack of D doesn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility. Kane is a UFA after next year as well. I'm not advocating a trade for McDavid.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
twins contract year
goldy is better than Hansen
Edler will come in with a fire or be gone
Marky is better with more games played

- onesmallleap

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
It's already taken 3 years to get started.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I know.....it's disappointing but hopefully they turn the corner this draft.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:03 AM ET
And still wont next year
- VANTEL

It starts when they start using the draft better (more picks the better)
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:05 AM ET

- VANTEL

thought you'd like that
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:07 AM ET
i read thru 14 pgs of negativity , so i thought i would kill you all with some kindness to MY team . no matter what I LOVE MY CANUCKS!!
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:10 AM ET
It's a little chippy in here.


- A_SteamingLombardi


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:10 AM ET
i read thru 14 pgs of negativity , so i thought i would kill you all with some kindness to MY team . no matter what I LOVE MY CANUCKS!!
- onesmallleap

me too....
been hoping our luck changes at draft lottery and we hire a great coaching staff that ends up perfect for us!
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