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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 11 @ 10:37 PM ET
Everyone is moving Patrck right out of the top3 now
think I'll stick with central scouting and laugh when he is destroying.

Apologies for the Green comment, it was nighthawk who wanted him. You want Cooper, right?

I'm for Gallant myself, anyone with experience at this point. no more rookie coaches!

- neem55



If you check my ranking for Nucks hasn't wavered on having him as their No.2 choice.
I'm sure most teams/scouts are keeping him #1.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:40 PM ET
I think to lay any of this seasons performance on JB (and to a lesser extent, Willie) is ridiculous, on paper this roster is fine(it's better than a couple rosters in the playoffs rn). There are no glaring holes, if everyone is healthy. I like the moves JB has made, Burrows and Hansen would have just guaranteed us landing outside the top 5 (they are 2 very competitive dudes) so its good we sold while the value is high (both have done nothing really to help their teams so its a win on JB).

The contracts though, I have to admit are troubling. Sutter will be a serviceable player most likely for the duration of the contract so it wasn't a huge bug a boo for me, but I HATE the Markstrom contract. Sbisa's earning his contract, so I really don't like when people throw that one out there. The Dorsett contract is awful though. LE's contract was awful from the beginning, they could have scooped up Okposo or some other free agent for half the price and they probably would have made twice the contribution to this team. Instead we got another overpaid, left handed, Swedish player.




Comparably speaking (GARTH SNOW, I know I've said this before but he's awful) JB really could be worse, but yeah he need's to hit these RFA contracts out of the park, his contract history is really, really bad.

- Crazybagoham

Ahh, burrows had like 6 goals since he joined the Sens, some of the key to the game variety... he's improved their team for sure and I'll be cheering for the Sens.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:40 PM ET
he'll destroying himself, he's always injured every season with a bad injury while in junior. You put him with full grown men and it would likely be worse. No thanks. I'll put him 4th.

Im not sure I have a coaching favorite. THey all come with some sort of down side. Probably gallant has the least down side. Id put him 1st then Id say.
Cooper is very smart though, but Im not sure the players like him. Same with sutter.
But look at the playoff experience those 2 have! Hard to say no to that.

Hitchcock has his pluses and minuses as well. Perhaps hitchcock with gallant taking the reigns in 2 years.

Remember we still need an eye in the sky coach too. If sutter doesnt want to coach anymore as some have suggested he can sit in the stands and analyze.

Gallant is probably the safest choice Id say

- SMBDragon


Why am I seeing several posts from people with Cooper's name as an option? Isn't he still Tampa's coach and now coaching Team Canada's World Championship team?


Also, in more response to this post, Gallant has a lot of options with the vacancies around the league. Pretty much zero chance he, or anyone else, will take a job as an assistant when there are are currently 5 opportunities that will pay handsomely for them to fill
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:41 PM ET
If you check my ranking for Nucks hasn't wavered on having him as their No.2 choice.
I'm sure most teams/scouts are keeping him #1.

- Nuck4U

I was only kidding about Hartley/Sutter combo. Some heads would explode in Calgary...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:44 PM ET
I was only kidding about Hartley/Sutter combo. Some heads would explode in Calgary...
- kaptaan


Therien and Roy?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 10:48 PM ET
Did you catch his quote from yesterday?

Short ribs are probably the best meat on the planet next to bacon.

- A_SteamingLombardi

No.....but
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
Plus hundreds and hundreds of game as an NHL'er. It has to help.
- LordHumungous

970 games. He has paid his dues and deserves a shot
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
No.....but
- LeftCoaster

"as a manager I always try to evaluate all the people um, that work under me and stuff"
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
"as a manager I always try to evaluate all the people um, that work under me and stuff"
- A_SteamingLombardi

.....(frank)in idiot, he's embarrassing
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:53 PM ET
.....(frank)in idiot, he's embarrassing
- LeftCoaster

Only when he opens his mouth.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 10:54 PM ET
Only when he opens his mouth.
- A_SteamingLombardi

And when he does stuff...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:55 PM ET
And when he evaluates stuff...
- LeftCoaster

Fixed
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 11 @ 11:00 PM ET
.....(frank)in idiot, he's embarrassing
- LeftCoaster


He's got his faults. Just Curious... did the Nucks in your opinion ever have a smart GM..?
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:01 PM ET
And when he does stuff...
- LeftCoaster

Did Willie remember to pack his stuff yesterday?
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:09 PM ET
Did Willie remember to pack his stuff yesterday?
- nucks_94

That guy set the record for worst press conferences.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:13 PM ET
He's got his faults. Just Curious... did the Nucks in your opinion ever have a smart GM..?
- Nuck4U

Milford, Quinn, Burke.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:22 PM ET
Why am I seeing several posts from people with Cooper's name as an option? Isn't he still Tampa's coach and now coaching Team Canada's World Championship team?


Also, in more response to this post, Gallant has a lot of options with the vacancies around the league. Pretty much zero chance he, or anyone else, will take a job as an assistant when there are are currently 5 opportunities that will pay handsomely for them to fill

- WhiteLie

there are more coaches than coach jobs though.

The reason cooper is mentioned is because a poster asked about me about him directly. Others chimed in on it. You mustve missed that.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:25 PM ET
Therien and Roy?
- dbot

nicely done!
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:28 PM ET
We aren't the Oilers until we win 3 lotteries and still miss the playoffs.
- A_SteamingLombardi


4 lotteries. Only reason they are relevant is cause the 4th got them a generational talent (or even more than that). Everything else that happened (coaches/gm/ufa's) is because of them landing McJesus. Luck.

Where would T.O. be without Matthews? Not this far along the rebuild. Luck.

Gillis drafted nothing top 6. JB is just starting out. aside from JV (who could still be a very useful player cause of his style) most of his 1sts haven't even hit the NHL. It takes time.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 11:28 PM ET
.....(frank)in idiot, he's embarrassing
- LeftCoaster

he's that little nerd that speaks weird but is a brilliant scout

him talking a bit odd doesnt make him an idiot
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:31 PM ET
whatever bro... Until all the Mr. Brightsides who called us bipolars for talking (IN REAL TIME) about the eventual consequences of asset mismanagement and poor draft choices admit that things weren't nearly as peachy as they continuously and delusionally insisted they were, I'll pound my chest when I feel like it. We wound up right where the chicken littles (apparently being realistic makes me one) said we would and on an accurate timeline too... This was NOT throwing sh!t at a wall and seeing what sticks. Getting ridiculed daily by fanboys for stating opinions gets old, and then when those opinions turn out to be accurate, they're conveniently forgotten or shrugged off as a coincidental eventuality... If that's the case then why do we even bother debating on here? These were all specific takes through the years... No generalities... and I think it's hilarious and convenient that the context in which they were originally presented has been forgotten by the people who continue to (ironically) whine about "whiners".
- DrChristianTroy


Just........
Thank you.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:32 PM ET
4 lotteries. Only reason they are relevant is cause the 4th got them a generational talent (or even more than that). Everything else that happened (coaches/gm/ufa's) is because of them landing McJesus. Luck.

Where would T.O. be without Matthews? Not this far along the rebuild. Luck.

Gillis drafted nothing top 6. JB is just starting out. aside from JV (who could still be a very useful player cause of his style) most of his 1sts haven't even hit the NHL. It takes time.

- storm88

4th lottery got them into the playoffs, the first 3 did (frank) all.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:33 PM ET
I feel like the canuckleheads have a rough decade ahead of them.
- WJDiedrich

no worries PATRICK will lead us to the promised land
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:36 PM ET


If Bob Hartley is ever hired, I will become a Jets fan or something.

- Crazybagoham

good riddance
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:36 PM ET
3 years away from being 3 years away.
- Codes1087

wild card next year
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