Try the spaetzle.
- Der Kaiser

egg noodles, interesting. Ill give it a try.

Funny how everyone (well most) think we are done with rebuilding when we are about 1/2 the way there.
- fastek

10 years sounds about right.

We've had either multiple 1st round picks or have drafted 2nd overall from 2012-2015 (4 drafts), then drafted 8th in '16.

off to Deutschland tomorrow
- Sabresfan-365

What part? I spent last summer in the southwest (black forest) and 4 years ago I did Munich and Berlin

The #1 PP.
Above average goaltending with stats to prove it.
Point per game average #2 (for whatever reason) center.
Top 5 5v5 goal scorer
The rest of the game is PK, matchups, and line combinations to maximize effort and results. If they can't see that coaching is a HUGE problem then they are dumb.

We need lottery love, constantly being screwed has worn out its welcome.

10 years sounds about right.

We've had either multiple 1st round picks or have drafted 2nd overall from 2012-2015 (4 drafts), then drafted 8th in '16.
- sbroads24

hindsight 20/20 but going 1 for 4 in the 12 and 13 drafts hurt us. Its good that it turned into o'reilly but if they pan out you're probably a better team today and dont necessarily have to make that trade.

The #1 PP.
Above average goaltending with stats to prove it.
Point per game average #2 (for whatever reason) center.
Top 5 5v5 goal scorer
The rest of the game is PK, matchups, and line combinations to maximize effort and results. If they can't see that coaching is a HUGE problem then they are dumb.
- Khmylev

There's an element of fire that's missing. The coach has a boring personality, which i think is part of it, and the players seem to feel trapped in a boring, unsuccessful system

We need lottery love, constantly being screwed has worn out its welcome.
- sskkoo1

Gerbe and I both agree that since this is the year we probably dont want to win it we're going to win it

What part? I spent last summer in the southwest (black forest) and 4 years ago I did Munich and Berlin
- jcragcrumple

Dusseldorf and Dortmund. Going to catch me a champions league game in the yellow wall

Gerbe and I both agree that since this is the year we probably dont want to win it we're going to win it
- Sabresfan-365

I also agree, but I'll take the win, the alternative is sucking next year for Dahlin and we just can't have another no growth season.

capitals took a lot of heat for it at the time but the niskanen signing may be one of the best of the last decade.
- Sabresfan-365

But they also signed Orpik to that atrocity the same day so it evens out

Dusseldorf and Dortmund. Going to catch me a champions league game in the yellow wall
- Sabresfan-365

Very nice. Germany is great. I have a picture somewhere on the computer from the top of the mountain in Baden-Baden where there's a sundial showing the direction of all the nearby towns. I put my sabres hat next to the arrow pointing to Eichel

hindsight 20/20 but going 1 for 4 in the 12 and 13 drafts hurt us. Its good that it turned into o'reilly but if they pan out you're probably a better team today and dont necessarily have to make that trade.
- Sabresfan-365

You landed Ristolainen, O'Reilly (Zads and Compher) Bailey, Baptiste, Petsersen, and Malone in '13. I'd call that nothing short of excellent.

2012 landed you your #4 D man and a 3/4 center in Girgs, and the other part to O'Reilly. Not to mention Ullmark

Very nice. Germany is great. I have a picture somewhere on the computer from the top of the mountain in Baden-Baden where there's a sundial showing the direction of all the nearby towns. I put my sabres hat next to the arrow pointing to Eichel
- jcragcrumple

now that i know what eichel translates to in german that makes this 10x better

You landed Ristolainen, O'Reilly (Zads and Compher) Bailey, Baptiste, Petsersen, and Malone in '13. I'd call that nothing short of excellent.

2012 landed you your #4 D man and a 3/4 center in Girgs, and the other part to O'Reilly. Not to mention Ullmark
- sbroads24

hate to say it

I kind of miss darcy after watching this sh!t storm

You landed Ristolainen, O'Reilly (Zads and Compher) Bailey, Baptiste, Petsersen, and Malone in '13. I'd call that nothing short of excellent.

2012 landed you your #4 D man and a 3/4 center in Girgs, and the other part to O'Reilly. Not to mention Ullmark
- sbroads24

im thinking about just the first rounders. Grigorenko and zadorov didnt work for us. neither did girgensons but hes still here.

if grigs becomes a 2c like they thought and zadorov takes the same step ristolainen did its probably a different story.

now that i know what eichel translates to in german that makes this 10x better
- Sabresfan-365

But they also signed Orpik to that atrocity the same day so it evens out
- chilliard77

ah yes the "leadership" price

I also agree, but I'll take the win, the alternative is sucking next year for Dahlin and we just can't have another no growth season.
- sskkoo1

I would too its just i always envisioned that last year or this years pick would get moved for an nhl d-man. They win the lottery they may be less inclined to move the pick. Would be very similar to the oilers lottery win in 2012.

ah yes the "leadership" price
- Sabresfan-365

When is he a free agent again? I'm sure Murray would love to roll the dice. Plus he's from Amherst so "wants to be here" and stuff

im thinking about just the first rounders. Grigorenko and zadorov didnt work for us. neither did girgensons but hes still here.

if grigs becomes a 2c like they thought and zadorov takes the same step ristolainen did its probably a different story.
- Sabresfan-365

To be fair, they were moved before they had a chance to work out. I think Zadorov will be just fine. Grigorenko not so much.

Girgensons is 9th in his draft class in scoring. That's not horrible for the 14th pick.

If we got a Girgensons caliber player in '13 or '15 that would be a miss

I would too its just i always envisioned that last year or this years pick would get moved for an nhl d-man. They win the lottery they may be less inclined to move the pick. Would be very similar to the oilers lottery win in 2012.
- Sabresfan-365

We win the lottery and we don't move the pick. It may not be considered a deep draft, but the first pick should land you a stud. A top pairing dman (Faulk) is the only thing you could trade it for, and I'm not sure if other teams will value the pick that much.

To be fair, they were moved before they had a chance to work out. I think Zadorov will be just fine. Grigorenko not so much.

Girgensons is 9th in his draft class in scoring. That's not horrible for the 14th pick.

If we got a Girgensons caliber player in '13 or '15 that would be a miss
- sbroads24

its not horrible, but i think only being able to churn out one mainstay in the organization out of those four picks made things tougher.

We win the lottery and we don't move the pick. It may not be considered a deep draft, but the first pick should land you a stud. A top pairing dman (Faulk) is the only thing you could trade it for, and I'm not sure if other teams will value the pick that much.
- sskkoo1

bob mckenzie in one of his early season draft pieces basically said the report on patrick was that of a good 2nd line centre. that was a bit of shocker

its not horrible, but i think only being able to churn out one mainstay in the organization out of those four picks made things tougher.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't mean to split hairs, but out of those picks, they churned out their top pair D man, one of the better #2 C's in the league, and a bottom 6 center. I'd say that's exceeding expectations of 4 first rounder's, the highest being the#8 pick.