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22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Apr 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 9 @ 9:08 AM ET
Welp, GMTM certainly has a big opportunity this off season.
He needs to:
- get LV to take one of Bogo, Moulson off his hands
- get a young Dman from th maneuvering pre-expansion draft
- land a solid Dman through trade
- sign the Russian Dman
- sign Peterson before June 1
- find 3 top 6 wingers
- Jack's left side
- L and R side for ROR with Okposo apparently done
- negotiate a Bridge deal with Lehner
- decide the fate of RFA's including
- Foligno
- Girgenson
- Larson
and find a new Coach after he fires Disco Dumb Dan

That is quite the list and will make for an interesting off season
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 9:26 AM ET
Welp, GMTM certainly has a big opportunity this off season.
He needs to:
- get LV to take one of Bogo, Moulson off his hands
- get a young Dman from th maneuvering pre-expansion draft
- land a solid Dman through trade
- sign the Russian Dman
- sign Peterson before June 1
- find 3 top 6 wingers
- Jack's left side
- L and R side for ROR with Okposo apparently done
- negotiate a Bridge deal with Lehner
- decide the fate of RFA's including
- Foligno
- Girgenson
- Larson
and find a new Coach after he fires Disco Dumb Dan

That is quite the list and will make for an interesting off season

- IonSabres


Need to temper expectations. 2/3 of this wont be accomplished...by any team really.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Apr 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
Welp, GMTM certainly has a big opportunity this off season.
He needs to:
- get LV to take one of Bogo, Moulson off his hands
- get a young Dman from th maneuvering pre-expansion draft
- land a solid Dman through trade
- sign the Russian Dman
- sign Peterson before June 1
- find 3 top 6 wingers
- Jack's left side
- L and R side for ROR with Okposo apparently done
- negotiate a Bridge deal with Lehner
- decide the fate of RFA's including
- Foligno
- Girgenson
- Larson
and find a new Coach after he fires Disco Dumb Dan

That is quite the list and will make for an interesting off season

- IonSabres


Holy poop! That is one long list of stuff that needs to be done!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:00 AM ET
Welp, GMTM certainly has a big opportunity this off season.
He needs to:
- get LV to take one of Bogo, Moulson off his hands
- get a young Dman from th maneuvering pre-expansion draft
- land a solid Dman through trade
- sign the Russian Dman
- sign Peterson before June 1
- find 3 top 6 wingers
- Jack's left side
- L and R side for ROR with Okposo apparently done
- negotiate a Bridge deal with Lehner
- decide the fate of RFA's including
- Foligno
- Girgenson
- Larson
and find a new Coach after he fires Disco Dumb Dan

That is quite the list and will make for an interesting off season

- IonSabres

last off season what was done?


sign okposo
trade for nilsson
trade for kulikov
sign falk and fedun


it's a long way to the top folks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
Holy poop! That is one long list of stuff that needs to be done!
- SabreWest

babcockm went somewhere else
stamkos went somewhere else
vesey went somewhere else
petersen looks like he will go somewhere else


murray is not that good of a closer
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
side note, the bills couldn't offer zach brown 3 mil to stay here?



Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 10:02 AM ET
last off season what was done?


sign okposo
trade for nilsson
trade for kulikov
sign falk and fedun


it's a long way to the top folks

- homiedclown



convince an expansion team to take one of the worst value contracts in the league, add two good d-men(one of them being young) and add 3 top 6 forwards? Most gms cant accomplish this in their tenure with one team let alone an off season.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 10:04 AM ET
babcockm went somewhere else
stamkos went somewhere else
vesey went somewhere else
petersen looks like he will go somewhere else


murray is not that good of a closer

- homiedclown


You're looking at this with blinders.

Babcock in hindsight was never coming here, that much became apparent.

Stamkos didnt "go somewhere else" he chose to stay in TB, which was widely reported as his top choice anyways

Vesey? maybe, but i dont know that a good or great closer convinces him to sign here or anywhere besides nyr.

Petersen- too early to say, really depends on why he leaves and why he chose whichever team he ends up with.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 9 @ 10:20 AM ET
Happy palm sunday everyone !!

rejoice
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
convince an expansion team to take one of the worst value contracts in the league, add two good d-men(one of them being young) and add 3 top 6 forwards? Most gms cant accomplish this in their tenure with one team let alone an off season.
- Sabresfan-365



Most GMs don't have a Costco where they live.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 9 @ 10:26 AM ET
You're looking at this with blinders.

Babcock in hindsight was never coming here, that much became apparent.

Stamkos didnt "go somewhere else" he chose to stay in TB, which was widely reported as his top choice anyways

Vesey? maybe, but i dont know that a good or great closer convinces him to sign here or anywhere besides nyr.

Petersen- too early to say, really depends on why he leaves and why he chose whichever team he ends up with.

- Sabresfan-365


You surprise me.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
Forget the last game today, there's a double header at Coca Cola Field. Go Herd
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
You're looking at this with blinders.

Babcock in hindsight was never coming here, that much became apparent.

Stamkos didnt "go somewhere else" he chose to stay in TB, which was widely reported as his top choice anyways

Vesey? maybe, but i dont know that a good or great closer convinces him to sign here or anywhere besides nyr.

Petersen- too early to say, really depends on why he leaves and why he chose whichever team he ends up with.

- Sabresfan-365

sabres were in talks with babcock, stamkos and vesey

landed zero


not sure how I am looking at it with blinders


murray talks to them about contract and what the sabres could offer and they all signed somewhere else

Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Apr 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
sabres were in talks with babcock, stamkos and vesey

landed zero


not sure how I am looking at it with blinders


murray talks to them about contract and what the sabres could offer and they all signed somewhere else

- homiedclown

I remember being here last summer and the general consensus 1 year ago was the Leafs were 1.5-2 yrs behind the Sabres in their respective rebuilds.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 9 @ 10:47 AM ET
I remember being here last summer and the general consensus 1 year ago was the Leafs were 1.5-2 yrs behind the Sabres in their respective rebuilds.
- Larsson_fan


Our season ended the day before it started
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Apr 9 @ 10:51 AM ET
last off season what was done?


sign okposo
trade for nilsson
trade for kulikov
sign falk and fedun


it's a long way to the top folks

- homiedclown


Especially if you wanna rock and roll
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
sabres were in talks with babcock, stamkos and vesey

landed zero


not sure how I am looking at it with blinders


murray talks to them about contract and what the sabres could offer and they all signed somewhere else

- homiedclown


This and Murray's closer abilities are not the same thing.

He cant suddenly make the city of buffalo more desirable to babcock and his wife and vesey than Toronto or NYC. Can't make him better friends with someone here than he is with Hayes.

I dont know how the stamkos thing is failure to close, the guy re-signed with his top choice.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
You surprise me.
- Der Kaiser


it keeps things interesting
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:55 AM ET


Especially if you wanna rock and roll

- PrinceChill

glad someone got it


walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
sabres were in talks with babcock, stamkos and vesey

landed zero


not sure how I am looking at it with blinders


murray talks to them about contract and what the sabres could offer and they all signed somewhere else

- homiedclown

I'd say Shanahan and Babcock had that deal done a year before it was official
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
This and Murray's closer abilities are not the same thing.

He cant suddenly make the city of buffalo more desirable to babcock and his wife and vesey than Toronto or NYC. Can't make him better friends with someone here than he is with Hayes.

I dont know how the stamkos thing is failure to close, the guy re-signed with his top choice.

- Sabresfan-365

he had vesey in his office
he had stamkos in his office
he had babcock in his office


you have to close one of those, don't you?


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
I'd say Shanahan and Babcock had that deal done a year before it was official
- walshyleafsfan

probably, used sabres for contract leverage

stamkos probably wanted to check out other teams before he locked up his career in tampa

still you have to win a few of these sit downs, murray gets us falk, fedun and okposo for 1 year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
he had vesey in his office
he had stamkos in his office
he had babcock in his office


you have to close one of those, don't you?

- homiedclown



No. you have to recognize that sometimes your organizations talent, depth, eichel, owner or whatever isnt going to be enough. That players make their decisions based on things outside of the arena. I doubt Gorton in ny is actually a great closer. He's not the one closing the deal. Hayes and the city of NY are.

This is why there was so much emphasis placed on building through the draft vs trying to rush it. Until you have the set up and core in place that make up a very good/great team the sabres and the city of buffalo are not going to close ahead of NYR, Tor etc. And reality is even then, might not be enough.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
probably, used sabres for contract leverage

stamkos probably wanted to check out other teams before he locked up his career in tampa

still you have to win a few of these sit downs, murray gets us falk, fedun and okposo for 1 year

- homiedclown



We're assuming Okposo is done now? Sources?
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