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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
Despise you on a cellular level.
- flyer_nutter


lol!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
And it can happen to a doctor, too, if he has an operation scheduled for that day.

I don't see "playing a game/games" as a valid excuse. That's all. I don't think, "My men's league team is in the playoffs, can we reschedule for 2 months from now," would work.

- jmatchett383



I get that.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
As a business person I get it. Don't frank with my business. I don't care if it's $1 or $1M.
- Scoob

But your business (The NHL) is founded on indentured servitude...your business does not exist without these players...you don't produce a commodity to sell without them...and at some point every company HAS to listen to their employees.

I just think if someone thinks so strongly to attend the NHL will figure out a way to "get by"..again, they DO ABSOLUTELY want to be in China for the 2022 Olympics...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
I'm guessing I'm not normal either. Because I would never have to serve on a jury during the school year. Neither would any other school administrator or essential school personnel.

Its nice to be special.

- MBFlyerfan


You're a person whose job is to educate children or an administrator thereof. To me, that 100 times more important than someone playing a game. So that makes total sense.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
And who exactly will be paying the ridiculous travel and meal expenses that these players will incur?
- jmatchett383


The national teams, of course. Or the national Olympic committee and sponsors - you know, the same fine folks who pay for the ice skaters, skiers, and curlers.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
You're a person whose job is to educate children or an administrator thereof. To me, that 100 times more important than someone playing a game. So that makes total sense.
- jmatchett383



But how does this have anything to do with shutting down a business to allow players to go to the olympics? Its not the same thing. Not even close.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
The national teams, of course. Or the national Olympic committee and sponsors - you know, the same fine folks who pay for the ice skaters, skiers, and curlers.
- Scoob


And who exactly is going to sponsor a 70+ game season of a US/Canadian team that no one in the US/Canada will ever get to watch in person?

It just doesn't work in North America for more than short tournaments.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
And it can happen to a doctor, too, if he has an operation scheduled for that day.

I don't see "playing a game/games" as a valid excuse. That's all. I don't think, "My men's league team is in the playoffs, can we reschedule for 2 months from now," would work.

- jmatchett383


Well, they are professionals, so "playing a game" = "working" so it's no different than any of the examples shown above.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
But how does this have anything to do with shutting down a business to allow players to go to the olympics? Its not the same thing. Not even close.
- MBFlyerfan


Nothing, It was just about jury duty, sorry.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
And who exactly is going to sponsor a 70+ game season of a US/Canadian team that no one in the US/Canada will ever get to watch in person?

It just doesn't work in North America for more than short tournaments.

- jmatchett383


Oh, then maybe it's not a good idea at all then.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
Really to me, the players have a union. If they feel strongly, they should hold out until its in their contracts that they are allowed to play.

Owners dont have a league without the players.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
Shocking that the company yes men are the same people demonizing the players that want to represent their country in the olympics.

Time to pack your bags baby boomers. The world has moved on whether you like it or not. Make sure you change your diapers before going out today to catch the early bird special.

- StepfordSam


lol, cute. You'll think differently when you are actually responsible for something.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
When you think about it, its basically Roman Gladiator times just slightly more civilized.

God how I would love for the max salary to be $75,000/year. For the CEO's and players. Watch them weep openly. Nutter be sick like that.

- flyer_nutter



What happens to the rest of the money?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
lol, cute. You'll think differently when you are actually responsible for something.
- Scoob


You mean, like lives of others?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
It's just weird that the owners, guys who are billionaires are crying over a bit of lost money.

Really are you that greedy? I dunno maybe I'm crazy.

- flyer_nutter


A lot of the owners are actually losing money anyway, so they don't want to lose more.



It's not surprising that the NHL bungled this whole thing by springing it on the players without having discussions with them though. League is run by idiots.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
What happens to the rest of the money?
- MJL


Infrastructure, education, healthcare.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
What happens to the rest of the money?
- MJL


What rest of the money? When salaries are that low ticket prices will plummet, as will merchandise prices.





lol!!!!!1
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
wow Ilkka Sinisalo died
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:03 PM ET
You mean, like lives of others?
- flyer_nutter


That, or a business
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:03 PM ET
But your business (The NHL) is founded on indentured servitude...your business does not exist without these players...you don't produce a commodity to sell without them...and at some point every company HAS to listen to their employees.

I just think if someone thinks so strongly to attend the NHL will figure out a way to "get by"..again, they DO ABSOLUTELY want to be in China for the 2022 Olympics...

- JW98FlyerFan



Last I looked these players get paid a poop ton of money. I don't recall indentured servants getting paid at all.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
Infrastructure, education, healthcare.
- flyer_nutter




jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
Really to me, the players have a union. If they feel strongly, they should hold out until its in their contracts that they are allowed to play.

Owners dont have a league without the players.

- flyer_nutter


With Letang out 4-6 months, this could be to the Penguins' advantage.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Apr 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
I think they can take your lisence away when you dont have insurance no?

No excuse for the combustion. Going to hell, may see a few of you there.

- flyer_nutter


Not everywhere you need insurance to drive. But if you do and hate people making money just ride a bike.

In one way or another in even commenting on hb you are facilitating the capitalist facist new world order you think you're shaking your fist(purse) at.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
wow Ilkka Sinisalo died
- nastyflyergirl


Yeesh - he had to be relatively young still, yes?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 3:05 PM ET
Infrastructure, education, healthcare.
- flyer_nutter



Oh, so the NHL should generate all of that money, and it shouldn't go to the players or the owners? It should go to infrastructure, education and healthcare? You have a naïve sense of reality.
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