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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
If they are so principled, and feel so strongly about it (a la Ovechkin), that they are willing to just up and leave their contracted NHL job to go play for their country, they should just forego the NHL and go to their country and play for their national team.

Put your money where your mouth is or stfu.

- Scoob


Do Canada and the United States have a men's "national team" that plays regularly?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
How much money does the NHL lose by shutting down for the Olympics?
- YuenglingJagr


I don't know. I don't care. They shouldn't shut down the league for a tournament (no matter how many flags are wrapped around said tournament).

imho
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
My business could send me to Canada, the Middle East, Europe, Russia, or any foreign nation that has refineries (i.e. anywhere on all 7 continents). In fact, we have service people who do this for a living (we've yet to sell and analyzer to Antarctica, though). They get called for jury duty just like everyone else, and they don't get out of it because their jobs demands they travel internationally.

Basically, playing a sport is a job just like any other ones. Yet I've never heard of a player missing a game for jury duty, and I find that too much to be a coincidence.

- jmatchett383



Really? That surprises me. In my experience it is easy to get a deferment to a future time that can be worked out with your job and the court, especially in the circumstances you described.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
If they are so principled, and feel so strongly about it (a la Ovechkin), that they are willing to just up and leave their contracted NHL job to go play for their country, they should just forego the NHL and go to their country and play for their national team.

Put your money where your mouth is or stfu.

- Scoob


It's just weird that the owners, guys who are billionaires are crying over a bit of lost money.

Really are you that greedy? I dunno maybe I'm crazy.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:49 PM ET
Do Canada and the United States have a men's "national team" that plays regularly?
- jmatchett383


If they want to send a national team to the Olympics they should get one.

What? They don't have one? Oh, so let's just slap together a "team" of NHLers and head on over. Also, we'll shut down our product here for all this "nationalism"

yay

imho
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:49 PM ET
Really? That surprises me. In my experience it is easy to get a deferment to a future time that can be worked out with your job and the court, especially in the circumstances you described.
- MBFlyerfan


If they defer it to a different time, they could just be assigned to go to a different site at that time. They're on the road about 75% of the time, and it changes bi-weekly. They'd basically have to schedule jury duty during their paid vacation days.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
It's just weird that the owners, guys who are billionaires are crying over a bit of lost money.

Really are you that greedy? I dunno maybe I'm crazy.

- flyer_nutter



As a business person I get it. Don't frank with my business. I don't care if it's $1 or $1M.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
If they defer it to a different time, they could just be assigned to go to a different site at that time. They're on the road about 75% of the time, and it changes bi-weekly. They'd basically have to schedule jury duty during their paid vacation days.
- jmatchett383


I'm guessing that every example I give will just be rationalized against. So lets just agree to disagree.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
If they want to send a national team to the Olympics they should get one.

What? They don't have one? Oh, so let's just slap together a "team" of NHLers and head on over. Also, we'll shut down our product here for all this "nationalism"

yay

imho

- Scoob


And exactly what opponents will this National Team play? Or do they just get into game shape by playing shinny against each other 80 times a year for $0?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
Really? That surprises me. In my experience it is easy to get a deferment to a future time that can be worked out with your job and the court, especially in the circumstances you described.
- MBFlyerfan



It is. Happens to college kids all the time.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
The military does it every day with the reserves. People leave their paid jobs to go and serve their commitment.

I think if enough players say F-it, I am going to play..the NHL is going to have to change their tune. Honestly I don't blame them...To represent your country on the Olympic stage could be one of the highlights of a career...I don't blame a single one of the guys if they walk out and go play. It is their life, I could care less what a contract says...just to stick around for the NHL to make their money off of some regular season games? No thanks...if you are good enough to be on your country's team, then go play.

- JW98FlyerFan


Not even remotely close.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm guessing that every example I give will just be rationalized against. So lets just agree to disagree.
- MBFlyerfan


I just think it's (frank)ed up that, "My team has a game coming up, can we reschedule it for 6 months from now," is not a valid excuse.

Sorry, just pisses me off that sports is more important that what "normal" people do.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
And exactly what opponents will this National Team play? Or do they just get into game shape by playing shinny against each other 80 times a year for $0?
- jmatchett383


Other nations! It'll be great! They can "represent their country" (an apparently big source of pride for them) every day! Seems like a win-win to me.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
As a business person I get it. Don't frank with my business. I don't care if it's $1 or $1M.
- Scoob


Despise you on a cellular level.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
Other nations! It'll be great! They can "represent their country" (an apparently big source of pride for them) every day! Seems like a win-win to me.
- Scoob


And who exactly will be paying the ridiculous travel and meal expenses that these players will incur?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
It is. Happens to college kids all the time.
- Scoob



Same with teachers and other essential school employees.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
I just think it's (frank)ed up that, "My team has a game coming up, can we reschedule it for 6 months from now," is not a valid excuse.

Sorry, just pisses me off that sports is more important that what "normal" people do.

- jmatchett383


When you think about it, its basically Roman Gladiator times just slightly more civilized.

God how I would love for the max salary to be $75,000/year. For the CEO's and players. Watch them weep openly. Nutter be sick like that.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
And who exactly will be paying the ridiculous travel and meal expenses that these players will incur?
- jmatchett383


Pack a sandwhich.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
It's just weird that the owners, guys who are billionaires are crying over a bit of lost money.

Really are you that greedy? I dunno maybe I'm crazy.

- flyer_nutter


I might be going off of stale information here, but I assumed the owners were against the Olympics due to losing a star player to injury after investing x dollars and y cap dollars. ie: unmitigated risk.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
Looking at bikes again, something cheaper on the insurance scale.

Anyone know anything bout Honda-Shadow? 2013 and newer?

- flyer_nutter



Why get insurance? Thats just feeding the socioeconomic beast.

Furthermore why get a vehicle that has a cumbustion engine? The oil industry is the true big evil.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
Same with teachers and other essential school employees.
- MBFlyerfan


And it can happen to a doctor, too, if he has an operation scheduled for that day.

I don't see "playing a game/games" as a valid excuse. That's all. I don't think, "My men's league team is in the playoffs, can we reschedule for 2 months from now," would work.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
He's a UFA right?


- flyer_nutter


Yes, but those boobs may be Restricted.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
I just think it's (frank)ed up that, "My team has a game coming up, can we reschedule it for 6 months from now," is not a valid excuse.

Sorry, just pisses me off that sports is more important that what "normal" people do.

- jmatchett383



I'm guessing I'm not normal either. Because I would never have to serve on a jury during the school year. Neither would any other school administrator or essential school personnel.

Its nice to be special.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
Shocking that the company yes men are the same people demonizing the players that want to represent their country in the olympics.

Time to pack your bags baby boomers. The world has moved on whether you like it or not. Make sure you change your diapers before going out today to catch the early bird special.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
Why get insurance? Thats just feeding the socioeconomic beast.

Furthermore why get a vehicle that has a cumbustion engine? The oil industry is the true big evil.

- twotoekenn


I think they can take your lisence away when you dont have insurance no?

No excuse for the combustion. Going to hell, may see a few of you there.
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