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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
OMFG!!!!

He who may not be scratched has been scratched! And it was evening and it was morning, the 8th day. The heavens are rejoicing!

- BiggE

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
Its happened.

mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
female doging about Vandevelde is like having a broken down car and blaming it on the cabin air filter.
- johndewar


Again, he is not a good hockey player and could have been removed from the line up at any time. It was more about having a terrible player playing night in and night out without ever being benched.

I don't think the complaining was about VDV specifically. It was more about what he represented. A team that just wasn't good enough.

Some of the complaining came from people on here defending his roster spot.

Anywho, also seems equally fruitless to complain about others complaining about CV. Just sayin.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
I agree with your response. I was surprised gudas didn't think somebody was coming after that hit, but he also looked injured/tired, as he was skating off.
- jmdodgeser4


Thanks, and I'm a little surprised he got caught that way too. Wiith the line change and the puck so far away at that point, I guess he thought it was over.

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
Didn't Isaac post a pic of a non-vandevelde lineup before only for him to find his way in? There are still 6 more hours for Colin McDonald to die of dysentery
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
female doging about Vandevelde is like having a broken down car and blaming it on the cabin air filter.
- johndewar


To me, it was never the case of him directly being the cause of the team's failings. It was more a case of him being immune from a healthy scratch even though he excels at nothing.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
female doging about Vandevelde is like having a broken down car and blaming it on the cabin air filter.
- johndewar

Cabin air filter would be like..I dunno...Bundy for Coatsey

I would be thrilled if Vandevelde's only function was to clean the air that the Flyers breathed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
Didn't Isaac post a pic of a non-vandevelde lineup before only for him to find his way in? There are still 6 more hours for Colin McDonald to die of dysentery
- YuenglingJagr


Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
Didn't Isaac post a pic of a non-vandevelde lineup before only for him to find his way in? There are still 6 more hours for Colin McDonald to die of dysentery
- YuenglingJagr

It's all your fault if CVV ends up getting in
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
To me, it was never the case of him directly being the cause of the team's failings. It was more a case of him being immune from a healthy scratch even though he excels at nothing.
- jmatchett383


That's fair.

And even pinning some of the blame for our rotten PK is fair.

But I think the problems with this team this season have run much deeper than Chris Vandevelde. Certainly not enough to warrant the ENDLESS GODDAMNED WHINING about him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
Didn't Isaac post a pic of a non-vandevelde lineup before only for him to find his way in? There are still 6 more hours for Colin McDonald to die of dysentery
- YuenglingJagr


He was rumored to be out in the November game in Toronto. Then he showed Hakstol his collection of UND Xmas party polaroids and found himself in the lineup.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
thanks for letting me know how I think about this....good thing someone knows whats in my mind when I don't
- nastyflyergirl

First they control the body then they go for the mind...

it's devious.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
That's fair.

And even pinning some of the blame for our rotten PK is fair.

But I think the problems with this team this season have run much deeper than Chris Vandevelde. Certainly not enough to warrant the ENDLESS GODDAMNED WHINING about him.

- johndewar


You prefer the endless goddamn whining on AMac?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
It's all your fault if CVV ends up getting in
- Mordecai

I am an alt for VDV so I don't disagree
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:14 PM ET
You prefer the endless goddamn whining on AMac?
- jmatchett383


For me the best whining involved "Coots" or arguing a specific player's role. Good times.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
For me the best whining involved "Coots" or arguing a specific player's role. Good times.
- mickel25

I liked discussing which Flyers players were good*

*relative to other players as bad as them
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:16 PM ET
I liked discussing which Flyers players were good
- YuenglingJagr


Provorov

/end
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 1:16 PM ET
You prefer the endless goddamn whining on AMac?
- jmatchett383


That's next year's whining.

At least whining about AMac, you'd be whining about a guy making way more money than he deserves. I'd understand that a little better.

With VdV, I'm pretty sure you can't pay someone less than what he is paid and be called an NHL player. Only the current AHL callups (Weal, Colin McDonald) make less.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
That's next year's whining.

At least whining about AMac, you'd be whining about a guy making way more money than he deserves. I'd understand that a little better.

With VdV, I'm pretty sure you can't pay someone less than what he is paid and be called an NHL player. Only the current AHL callups (Weal, Colin McDonald) make less.

- johndewar


Pittsburgh has quite a few, including 5 guys not on their ELCs (Sestito on the vet. minimum of $575K). But yes, contract-wise, VandeVelde is not an issue. But he was the embodiment of what was wrong with this team due to his teflon status.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
That's next year's whining.

At least whining about AMac, you'd be whining about a guy making way more money than he deserves. I'd understand that a little better.

With VdV, I'm pretty sure you can't pay someone less than what he is paid and be called an NHL player. Only the current AHL callups (Weal, Colin McDonald) make less.

- johndewar

The money is irrelevant...he sucks and he constantly gets put in the lineup
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Have I mentioned that I'm giddy over this Olympics thing?

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/news/radko-gudas-hit-scottie-upshall-video-water-squirt-tampa-bay-panthers-nhl/1qorjuf8nt38k1vn7xpiooscem

Enjoy.

Could you be more of a complete homer not to think your team has done that? They're 6th in the league in PIMs, but I'm sure they're all bad calls to you.
I can't believe you actual think there is a team in team in the league that hasn't thrown a hit like that this season... and it would be the Flyers. Hilarious.

And Dillweed? Thanks for the 70's flashback or did you just catch up to that?

- Queenie_5_hole

So you show me a video of Gudas playing with the lightning a few years ago as justification of Flyers living and dying by the sword. So we are 6th in the league in PIM, but do you know the break down of the penalties? How many times have had tripping penalties. I know we had a good amount of too many men on the ice penalties.

Ooh oh, what about goalie interference.

My point is that anyone who tries to justify their player throwing a dirty/needless hit by saying you do it too, is just ignorant.

Players do stupid stuff for all teams. Plain and simple.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
Have I mentioned that I'm giddy over this Olympics thing?
- Scoob

Curling?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
The money is irrelevant...he sucks and he constantly gets put in the lineup
- YuenglingJagr


The salary cap disagrees with you.

The players that are paid well should be expected to be your better players.

I don't think they were this year.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
Curling?
- YuenglingJagr


lol It's fantastic!
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