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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
It's hockey and it is violent. Gudas has miscalculated a few times. However, he makes a lot of hits during a year that are hard and clean. Prout's hit was all about hurting a player and exacting revenge. No need for it. If he challenged Gudas to a fight I am sure he would have obliged.
- mickel25



and that is my point. I don't get retaliating for clean hits and I will say it when the Flyers do it too but at least challenge the player cleanly. Let him see you coming.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Scotch flavor, oh wait, you must mean the poptarts

Blueberry and Strawberry. I'm old school.

- BiggE


Savage.

Frosted cinnamon.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
According to multiple tweets from people at the practice, Manning is a healthy scratch.

Pairings are
9-47
15-55
50-53

- jak521


well Manning and MDZ were dreadful against the Rangers so doesn't surprise me.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
No you're not. You're just pissed someone did it to your team.

You think every guy on the ice is in perfect position to tell if a hit is clean or not? They don't get a video to review before deciding to retaliate. This garbage happens all the time in hockey and the Flyers (Gudas, ironically particularly) are some of the ones who perpetuate it. I'm not defending the hit but holy crap, if you're going to live by the sword you die by the sword.

Frankly, I've always admired the Flyers for their hard play even if it often pushes these boundaries. But its pretty ironic to see everyone now act so indignant.

- Queenie_5_hole

Hey Dillweed,

Give us one example of a Flyers throwing a retaliatory hit on an unsuspecting player? Living and dying by the sword (your words) would only make sense if Gudas had been legally hit and injured.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
According to multiple tweets from people at the practice, Manning is a healthy scratch.

Pairings are
9-47
15-55
50-53

- jak521

nice
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
I have several bottles of fine scotch, some pop tarts and a water pistol. I'm prepared.
- BiggE


good call on the Morin call up....didn't think hextall would do it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
My Ranger hate goes back to when the Devils were still the Kansas City Scouts

- BiggE


Mine goes back to 94/95, because (frank) em.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
Morin's debut would make him the 2nd to last 1st rounder from 2013 to debut (Morgan Klimchuk - 28 - CGY)

he is such a bust

- YuenglingJagr


PLind is so mad about this.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 12:12 PM ET



arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 4 @ 12:13 PM ET
Vecchione in too!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:15 PM ET




- jak521


ERMAGERD! NO VANDERVELDEY!!! ERMAGERD!!!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:17 PM ET
ERMAGERD! NO VANDERVELDEY!!! ERMAGERD!!!
- johndewar

sad times
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 4 @ 12:17 PM ET
ERMAGERD! NO VANDERVELDEY!!! ERMAGERD!!!
- johndewar


Per Hextall:

"Vandevelde will be scratched tonight for evaluation purposes for his pending 5 year extension."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:19 PM ET
ERMAGERD! NO VANDERVELDEY!!! ERMAGERD!!!
- johndewar


Flyers coach Dave Hakstol has resigned as head coach of the Philadelphia Flyers. Although unavailable for comment, it has been rumored that he and the club have decided to part ways due to "Irreconcilavelde differences."
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 4 @ 12:20 PM ET




- jak521

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:20 PM ET
Flyers coach Dave Hakstol has resigned as head coach of the Philadelphia Flyers. Although unavailable for comment, it has been rumored that he and the club have decided to part ways due to "Irreconcilavelde differences."
- jmatchett383


We are through the looking glass, people!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
sad times
- stayinthefnnet


I, for one, cannot wait for this lineup change to singlehandedly fix the Flyers problems scoring 5 on 5, the PK, the PP, the inconsistent goaltending, the Middle East, Universal Healthcare, etc...
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 12:22 PM ET
Per Hextall:

"Vandevelde will be scratched tonight for evaluation purposes for his pending 5 year extension."

- arichardson22

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 4 @ 12:22 PM ET
Manning out with an upper-body injury. So Schultz stays in the lineup
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:24 PM ET
Manning out with an upper-body injury. So Schultz stays in the lineup
- bmeltzer


Bill, do you think Schultz is retiring or does he plan to try to sign on elsewhere?
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
It's hockey and it is violent. Gudas has miscalculated a few times. However, he makes a lot of hits during a year that are hard and clean. Prout's hit was all about hurting a player and exacting revenge. No need for it. If he challenged Gudas to a fight I am sure he would have obliged.
- mickel25


I think Prout's intent was to fight him (he said so) but Gudas with his head down was to easy a target. The thing is Radko's hit was legal but it shouldn't surprise anyone that there was a retaliation. The retaliation crossed the line and penalties and suspension were issued... and warranted.

In the next sequence Palmeri got run with a late hit which was likely retaliatory as well. Not surprising.

All I'm saying is if you play the game this way this is what happens. We all know it. So I'm just surprised to see so many folks (particularly Flyer fans who generally appreciate the rougher brand of hockey) act indignant about it.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
I, for one, cannot wait for this lineup change to singlehandedly fix the Flyers problems scoring 5 on 5, the PK, the PP, the inconsistent goaltending, the Middle East, Universal Healthcare, etc...
- johndewar


true, but this team will not improve if they roll out same lineup next year. Hopefully some of the youngsters are ready to help.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
I think Prout's intent was to fight him (he said so) but Gudas with his head down was to easy a target. The thing is Radko's hit was legal but it shouldn't surprise anyone that there was a retaliation. The retaliation crossed the line and penalties and suspension were issued... and warranted.

In the next sequence Palmeri got run with a late hit which was likely retaliatory as well. Not surprising.

All I'm saying is if you play the game this way this is what happens. We all know it. So I'm just surprised to see so many folks (particularly Flyer fans who generally appreciate the rougher brand of hockey) act indignant about it.

- Queenie_5_hole


Gudas does run guys, but he stands up for himself and takes on fights when folks come at him.

If Prout really wanted to fight him and engage Gudas that way, I'm guessing Gudas would have obliged him. Gudas isn't a great fighter, but he's a game one.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think Prout's intent was to fight him (he said so) but Gudas with his head down was to easy a target. The thing is Radko's hit was legal but it shouldn't surprise anyone that there was a retaliation. The retaliation crossed the line and penalties and suspension were issued... and warranted.

In the next sequence Palmeri got run with a late hit which was likely retaliatory as well. Not surprising.

All I'm saying is if you play the game this way this is what happens. We all know it. So I'm just surprised to see so many folks (particularly Flyer fans who generally appreciate the rougher brand of hockey) act indignant about it.

- Queenie_5_hole


I'm fine with the gudas hit....I'm fine with Prout answering and knowing his role and I'm fine with Simmonds taking the challenge from Prout, who to me, is one of the top fighter in the league. Two games ...kinda has to be in my book...but that's Prout's job. Maybe he could have just challenged him to a fight....but the game moves at a little quicker pace then that....To bad Prout or Gudas aren't in tonight.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
true, but this team will not improve if they roll out same lineup next year. Hopefully some of the youngsters are ready to help.
- landros 2


From my office window, I can even see the Septa bus drivers driving better and I hear that Schuylkill Expressway traffic is much better since Vandevelde has been scratched.

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