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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 5:21 PM ET
Well... since Vecchione isnt playing tonight... and certain members of Team Negative have been muttering darkly about Morin being a bust since he's like almost 22 years old and hasnt won a single Norris trophy yet... so... Sammy's my pick for the next target of the Harping Harpers from Harperville.
- Doc_Sarcasm


the only reason i'm watching tonight is to see morin. i'm thrilled.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 4 @ 5:23 PM ET
Apparently Vecchione is playing tonight now that they've been eliminated.

And I'm pretty sure that Harper guy was traded to Carolina years ago.

- mayorofangrytown


I see Bill amended the blog since Vecchione will apparently be at the Hobey Baker ceremony on Sat. and won't be playing then. I don't see why he wasnt going to be in the lineup anyway... I mean whats the worst that could happen? The Flyers could be eliminated from the playoffs?

Of course... now I have to take into consideration that perhaps the members of Team Negative, in their infinite wisdom, will determine that Vecchione is another misguided college signing and a waste of a roster space that prevents Hextall from signing someone of actual value.

So maybe Morin won't be their next victim.

Ugh.

All this thinking is making my head hurt.


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 4 @ 5:23 PM ET
the only reason i'm watching tonight is to see morin. i'm thrilled.
- hammarby31

According to Bill and the rest of the Jouralism crew Vecchione will be in there also.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 4 @ 5:25 PM ET
I see Bill amended the blog since Vecchione will apparently be at the Hobey Baker ceremony on Sat. and won't be playing then. I don't see why he wasnt going to be in the lineup anyway... I mean whats the worst that could happen? The Flyers could be eliminated from the playoffs?

Of course... now I have to take into consideration that perhaps the members of Team Negative, in their infinite wisdom, will determine that Vecchione is another misguided college signing and a waste of a roster space that prevents Hextall from signing someone of actual value.

So maybe Morin won't be their next victim.

Ugh.

All this thinking is making my head hurt.

- Doc_Sarcasm

It's goofy. The rest of the league is signing their College players and getting them on the ice. Hell, Ottawa had one taking a run at the shoot out last night.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 5:26 PM ET
i obviously don't have a dog in the fight, but i find it hard to believe people get so lost in the semantics of saying a guy sucks or not.

obviously, yes. Vandevelde or guys like sestito or pick whatever scrub/goon you want do not suck at hockey in the purest sense of the word. they could skate/shoot circles around your average folk on this board. its clearly relative though. in relation to the pool of NHL talent as your comparable sample, its really not that much of a leap to say they "suck".

- stayinthefnnet


+1
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 5:27 PM ET
the only reason i'm watching tonight is to see morin. i'm thrilled.
- hammarby31

Me too for the most part. However I enjoy watching Provorov and I'm curious to see how Vecchione looks too.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
I have tickets to tonight's game, and I was originally planning not to go. Now I'm rather excited.


I like that the players won't be going to the Olympics. Hate the disruption to the season. However, its gonna be really silly when the NHL does a 180 and encourages participation in Beijing.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
According to Bill and the rest of the Jouralism crew Vecchione will be in there also.
- mayorofangrytown


oh. well. reason 2.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
I see Bill amended the blog since Vecchione will apparently be at the Hobey Baker ceremony on Sat. and won't be playing then. I don't see why he wasnt going to be in the lineup anyway... I mean whats the worst that could happen? The Flyers could be eliminated from the playoffs?

Of course... now I have to take into consideration that perhaps the members of Team Negative, in their infinite wisdom, will determine that Vecchione is another misguided college signing and a waste of a roster space that prevents Hextall from signing someone of actual value.

So maybe Morin won't be their next victim.

Ugh.

All this thinking is making my head hurt.

- Doc_Sarcasm


1. Less thinking
2. More drinking
3. Problem solved
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 5:36 PM ET
Roenick spouting off about Couturier. Lumping him in with Read and Vandevelde.

Clown.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
I have tickets to tonight's game, and I was originally planning not to go. Now I'm rather excited.


I like that the players won't be going to the Olympics. Hate the disruption to the season. However, its gonna be really silly when the NHL does a 180 and encourages participation in Beijing.

- JFlyers00


I've always resented professionals going to the Olympics. It just seemed very cool that our college kids and other amateurs got a chance to go and compete against the best in the world.

Yeah, I get that the entire Soviet bloc was basically sending professionals to the Olympics back in the day.

I also get that professionals want to represent their countries as much as the amateurs.

I'm just not a fan.

And to your last point: I'm fairly certain that the NHL cares a lot more about money than it does whether or not it looks silly. Also, I'm sure they're quite capable of performing all sorts of mental gymnastics to rationalize what is, as you pointed out a complete 180.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
top o' the morin to you
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
Weal sick, VV back in. enjoy

davegisaac: Hearing Jordan Weal is sick and won’t play. So Chris VandeVelde’s ironman streak continues.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
Weal sick, VV back in. enjoy

davegisaac: Hearing Jordan Weal is sick and won’t play. So Chris VandeVelde’s ironman streak continues.

- feelingkettle



thats weally bad news
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
Weal sick, VV back in. enjoy

davegisaac: Hearing Jordan Weal is sick and won’t play. So Chris VandeVelde’s ironman streak continues.

- feelingkettle


we just can't have nice things.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 6:05 PM ET
Weal sick, VV back in. enjoy

davegisaac: Hearing Jordan Weal is sick and won’t play. So Chris VandeVelde’s ironman streak continues.

- feelingkettle

Had to be poison, just has to be. Someone should be questioning VdV, Hak and MJL
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:19 PM ET
Seriously though, a Morin Manning pairing has disaster written all over it.
- hereticpride


So no confidence from you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:22 PM ET
But you do because you keep responding.
- mickel25


It's an internet message forum where topics are discussed. You engaged with me, now you have an issue with me engaging back?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:24 PM ET
i obviously don't have a dog in the fight, but i find it hard to believe people get so lost in the semantics of saying a guy sucks or not.

obviously, yes. Vandevelde or guys like sestito or pick whatever scrub/goon you want do not suck at hockey in the purest sense of the word. they could skate/shoot circles around your average folk on this board. its clearly relative though. in relation to the pool of NHL talent as your comparable sample, its really not that much of a leap to say they "suck".

- stayinthefnnet


Well I guess if you want to compare them to the top players in the league. The player was called talentless. That is false. He made it to the NHL. If anyone wants to use the term sucks they're free to do so. I don't look at it that way. Do you ever read a competent hockey analyst such as Bill Meltzer state that a player sucks? Why is that?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:28 PM ET
Weal sick, VV back in. enjoy

davegisaac: Hearing Jordan Weal is sick and won’t play. So Chris VandeVelde’s ironman streak continues.

- feelingkettle



Excellent! Now we can get back to complaining about why Vandevelde has never been scratched!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 6:29 PM ET
Well I guess if you want to compare them to the top players in the league. The player was called talentless. That is false. He made it to the NHL. If anyone wants to use the term sucks they're free to do so. I don't look at it that way. Do you ever read a competent hockey analyst such as Bill Meltzer state that a player sucks? Why is that?
- MJL

Does Chris Vandevelde suck? No, he does not
Is he less offensively talented than most NHL forwards? Yes, he is
Would the Flyers benefit from upgrading his roster spot? Yes, they would

That's that. Time to move on
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:33 PM ET
Excellent! Now we can get back to complaining about why Vandevelde has never been scratched!
- MJL


Better than speculating every year he is injured and that's why he is having a disappointing season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:33 PM ET
Does Chris Vandevelde suck? No, he does not
Is he less offensively talented than most NHL forwards? Yes, he is
Would the Flyers benefit from upgrading his roster spot? Yes, they would

That's that. Time to move on

- BiggE


Agree on all 3 counts. Is the board really going to move on? I doubt it!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:37 PM ET
Ben Thompson and Luke Gadzic....both called up....fire works it is....on a personal note I'm buddies with Thompson's dad....should be fun.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:38 PM ET
Does Chris Vandevelde suck? No, he does not
Is he less offensively talented than most NHL forwards? Yes, he is
Would the Flyers benefit from upgrading his roster spot? Yes, they would

That's that. Time to move on

- BiggE


VDV sucks....
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