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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:07 AM ET
Were they required to start his ELC this year, or was that likely a stipulation that he asked for?
- jmatchett383



without being willing to burn the year they would not have gotten him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:08 AM ET
If Hextall doesn't change any of these core players there will be no need for excitement next year.He needs to send a message to these guys.Missing the playoffs with this payroll is unacceptable. You can not move forward with 2 guys eating up 16 million and producing under 60 pts a season.If he doesn't make any moves to me he is not ready to be a big time gm.What an achievement to be the only team to win 10 in a row and miss the playoffs. WTF??He actually said this team showed lots of heart the last 10 games.LOL.Get a frigging clue
- flyeredup85


It takes another team to make a deal, and a deal that Hextall likes has to be available.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:09 AM ET

http://www.broadstreethoc...one-signs-flyers-contract


According to this he can go and play for the Phantoms.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:09 AM ET
Roenick is the poster boy for the long term dangers of multiple concussions.
- Feanor



I LOVED JR as a player and not just with the Flyers. he was one of my fave non Flyers. I have a JR jersey. but my god him and milbury together
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 3 @ 10:09 AM ET
without being willing to burn the year they would not have gotten him.
- nastyflyergirl



My guess is there was a deal both ways. Flyers burn year of ELC and there is handshake to sign a new deal in offseason.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:10 AM ET
Honestly I wouldn't know.That's for hextall to decide.I would like to get a real goal scorer for jake.Someone who can provide 30 goals a season.Weather that's possible or not is unknown.I think a guy like Evander Kane could be a good fit.It seems like he is improving his attitude. I don't think buffalo has any interest in jake though.It was a little meaningless to show heart when you really didn't have a chance.All they did was make sure they don't get a top 10 pick.Just like a few years ago.They were sitting to pick 8th went on a winning streak when it didn't matter.They end up getting Morin at 11 buffalo gets ristolainen at 8.Just really frustrated with the lack of improvement. Seems it's been like this for 5-6 yrs.
- flyeredup85



I'm disappointed in Voracek's season this year, but no way in hell would I trade him for Evander Kane.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:10 AM ET
Hextall already added a center and improved the team's 5 on 5 play.
- Feanor


It still wasn't good enough, especially when the PP went south. Filppula is ok, but he's
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:11 AM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...one-signs-flyers-contract


According to this he can go and play for the Phantoms.

- MBFlyerfan


Only if he signed an ATO, which he didn't.

Aston-Reese did for Pit, so I guess he either he wasn't as in demand as Vecchione was, or he only wanted to sign with the Pens.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/zach-aston-reese
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:12 AM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...one-signs-flyers-contract


According to this he can go and play for the Phantoms.

- MBFlyerfan



according to that only if he wasn't burning the yr of his contract and signed an ATO. thats not happening tho, he is burning the yr. Still seems silly to me that he can'tbe sent down and play in the playoffs tho.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:12 AM ET
Hextall already added a center and improved the team's 5 on 5 play.
- Feanor


It still wasn't good enough, especially when the PP went south. Filppula is ok, but he's
only here for 1 year and to me, he's not moving the needle much in terms of skill or production, if we go by this year's numbers.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:13 AM ET
My guess is there was a deal both ways. Flyers burn year of ELC and there is handshake to sign a new deal in offseason.
- J35Bacher



He's a RFA anyway so i don't have any concerns about getting him signed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:16 AM ET
Were they required to start his ELC this year, or was that likely a stipulation that he asked for?
- jmatchett383


The player would have to be signed by the NHL trade deadline and assigned to the AHL to be eligible for the AHL playoffs, unless signed to a ATO.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:17 AM ET
Provorov is really good. Amac should not kill penalties. Filpula was a solid pick up.
That is all.

- Marc D


If MacDonald is on the team, he should absolutely be used to kill penalties. He just shouldn't be on the top PK defense pairing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:20 AM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...one-signs-flyers-contract


According to this he can go and play for the Phantoms.

- MBFlyerfan


He could but the Flyers agreed to burn his ELC this year as a condition of signing him.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 3 @ 10:20 AM ET
The player would have to be signed by the NHL trade deadline and assigned to the AHL to be eligible for the AHL playoffs, unless signed to a ATO.
- MJL

He doesn't need an ATO. He would be eligible if he doesnt play a game
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:21 AM ET
It still wasn't good enough, especially when the PP went south. Filppula is ok, but he's
only here for 1 year and to me, he's not moving the needle much in terms of skill or production, if we go by this year's numbers.

- Sublime55


He's here for another year, and the Flyers have Vecchione, Laughton, Vorobyov and Rubstov as center prospects. If one of them isn't ready to be a top 9 center in 18-19 then Hextall can look at a trade or free agent signing then.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
He doesn't need an ATO. He would be eligible if he doesnt play a game
- YuenglingJagr


Flyers signed him to ELC. If he wants to play for the Phantoms without starting that ELC, then he needs to be signed to an ATO, otherwise he is not eligible for the AHL playoffs.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
being the Phantoms don't play again until Wed at home I wouldn't mind seeing Morin up for a game but I don't think they will do it. do they even have the cap space to call anyone else up?
- nastyflyergirl


If they put Read on LTIR, they should be fine.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
He's a RFA anyway so i don't have any concerns about getting him signed
- nastyflyergirl



I understand.

I meant more along I have a feelings numbers were already discussed about what next year will be.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:32 AM ET
I'm disappointed in Voracek's season this year, but no way in hell would I trade him for Evander Kane.
- MJL


100%
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
JR said they should move Coots
- nastyflyergirl


JR has had about 25 concussions. Just sayin....

edit: way leight
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
I understand.

I meant more along I have a feelings numbers were already discussed about what next year will be.

- J35Bacher


oh man im so looking forward to him playing with vdv and belly.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
JR has had about 25 concussions. Just sayin....

edit: way leight

- BiggE


Good jokes/accurate comments are worth making multiple times.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
I understand.

I meant more along I have a feelings numbers were already discussed about what next year will be.

- J35Bacher



Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a one way deal meaning he makes his NHL deal in the minors if he doesn't make the team out of camp.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 3 @ 11:01 AM ET

Devils assign quenneville.. recalling a goon ?
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