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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yep as soon as Prout made a bee line from the bench to Gudas he was getting a Game misconduct. MacDonald was first on the scene but then Simmonds had him step aside.

I dress Morin and pair him with Ghost.

Prov-Mac
MDZ-Manning
Ghost-Morin

- dragonoffrost



being the Phantoms don't play again until Wed at home I wouldn't mind seeing Morin up for a game but I don't think they will do it. do they even have the cap space to call anyone else up?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 9:51 AM ET
being the Phantoms don't play again until Wed at home I wouldn't mind seeing Morin up for a game but I don't think they will do it. do they even have the cap space to call anyone else up?
- nastyflyergirl


Without looking at the numbers, I'd have to imagine that a one-day prorated Morin hit can't be all that much. Have they had to use LTIR this season?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 3 @ 9:51 AM ET
Tomorrow night I rework the line a little

TK-G- Simmer
Weal-Filp-Jake
Schenn-Coots-Weise (can't believe he ain't suspended)
VDV-PEB-Cousins


Simmer moves to protect G and TK

I'm expecting Gazdic and MacWilliam to show up tomorrow night from Albany.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 3 @ 9:53 AM ET
being the Phantoms don't play again until Wed at home I wouldn't mind seeing Morin up for a game but I don't think they will do it. do they even have the cap space to call anyone else up?
- nastyflyergirl


LTIR Raffl and boom you got the space.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 3 @ 9:54 AM ET
Without looking at the numbers, I'd have to imagine that a one-day prorated Morin hit can't be all that much. Have they had to use LTIR this season?
- jmatchett383


Yes they have dipped into LTIR.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 9:54 AM ET
Can someone please explain to me why this is? Why can't late-season college FA's play in the AHL (like Alex Lyon)?
- jmatchett383


If he signed an ATO to finish out the season and his ELC was starting next season, then he could play for the Phantoms. That's what Friedman is doing and what Bardreau did two years ago.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:55 AM ET
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Apr 3 @ 9:55 AM ET
Tomorrow night I rework the line a little

TK-G- Simmer
Weal-Filp-Jake
Schenn-Coots-Weise (can't believe he ain't suspended)
VDV-PEB-Cousins


Simmer moves to protect G and TK

I'm expecting Gazdic and MacWilliam to show up tomorrow night from Albany.

- dragonoffrost


Well then im watching the recall wire and if that happens I would then call up morin and goulbourne. I understand you don't want to goon it up but protecting our players is number 1. I doubt that happens though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 9:57 AM ET
If he signed an ATO to finish out the season and his ELC was starting next season, then he could play for the Phantoms. That's what Friedman is doing and what Bardreau did two years ago.
- Feanor


Were they required to start his ELC this year, or was that likely a stipulation that he asked for?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 9:59 AM ET
Well then im watching the recall wire and if that happens I would then call up morin and goulbourne. I understand you don't want to goon it up but protecting our players is number 1. I doubt that happens though.
- jmdodgeser4


Goulborune has spent more time the ECHL than the AHL this year. I don't think he's ready for an NHL shot.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:00 AM ET
I'm not disagreeing, but what's the trade you'd make to shake up the core?

And I do think the team has shown a lot more heart recently, but it's concerning they didn't for the better part of January and February.

- jmatchett383



JR said they should move Coots
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
Provorov is really good. Amac should not kill penalties. Filpula was a solid pick up.
That is all.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
Were they required to start his ELC this year, or was that likely a stipulation that he asked for?
- jmatchett383


Vecchione must have demanded they burn the first year of his ELC as a condition of signing. As his signing age (age as of 9/15) was 24, that was the only year.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
If he signed an ATO to finish out the season and his ELC was starting next season, then he could play for the Phantoms. That's what Friedman is doing and what Bardreau did two years ago.
- Feanor

Right now he can play, but when he plays a game for the Flyers (which he needs to start the ELC) he wouldn't be AFAIK
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
JR said they should move Coots
- nastyflyergirl


Roenick is the poster boy for the long term dangers of multiple concussions.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
Were they required to start his ELC this year, or was that likely a stipulation that he asked for?
- jmatchett383

id imagine he wanted it started this season

edit: late
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
The modus operandi of this team the last 4-5 years has been: bad to sluggish season starts, a Nov-Dec surge, a new year nosedive, and a late season surge. Their chances of making the playoffs depended on how bad the new year slump was and how much of a late season surge they could make. The core of this team had gotten stale and it's apparent that changes need to be made. I'll continue to promote the notion that they desperately need a 2nd line center to drive 5v5 play. Hexy better get to work this offseason.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
Tomorrow night I rework the line a little

TK-G- Simmer
Weal-Filp-Jake
Schenn-Coots-Weise (can't believe he ain't suspended)
VDV-PEB-Cousins


Simmer moves to protect G and TK

I'm expecting Gazdic and MacWilliam to show up tomorrow night from Albany.

- dragonoffrost



Neither can I, though IMO nothing about that hit merited a major or a suspension. At worst it was a minor for late/ and or charging.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
LTIR Raffl and boom you got the space.
- dragonoffrost

Or read
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
JR said they should move Coots
- nastyflyergirl


Coots can be an enigma. I know he "drives possession" and has good 5v5 pts/60, but he doesn't seem to produce offensive results consistently. Then again, he's been shifted around the lineup, had his role changed several times, and had a bunch of different wingers. He's also still one of the better defensive forwards in the game. I like him more than some people, but Schenn is the one I'd move. PP or not, 25 goals would get you a decent return.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:05 AM ET
Can someone please explain to me why this is? Why can't late-season college FA's play in the AHL (like Alex Lyon)?
- jmatchett383



I have no idea what the rules are but I asked the question when the Flyers signed him and a few people came back with no.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 10:05 AM ET
The modus operandi of this team the last 4-5 years has been: bad to sluggish season starts, a Nov-Dec surge, a new year nosedive, and a late season surge. Their chances of making the playoffs depended on how bad the new year slump was and how much of a late season surge they could make. The core of this team had gotten stale and it's apparent that changes need to be made. I'll continue to promote the notion that they desperately need a 2nd line center to drive 5v5 play. Hexy better get to work this offseason.
- Sublime55


Hextall already added a center and improved the team's 5 on 5 play.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:06 AM ET
Or read
- YuenglingJagr


Has the "upper-body amputation" taken place yet?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:06 AM ET
Without looking at the numbers, I'd have to imagine that a one-day prorated Morin hit can't be all that much. Have they had to use LTIR this season?
- jmatchett383


Del Zotto, Neuvirth, Streit, Gordon and Laughton all spent time on LTIR
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 3 @ 10:07 AM ET
Coots can be an enigma. I know he "drives possession" and has good 5v5 pts/60, but he doesn't seem to produce offensive results consistently. Then again, he's been shifted around the lineup, had his role changed several times, and had a bunch of different wingers. He's also still one of the better defensive forwards in the game. I like him more than some people, but Schenn is the one I'd move. PP or not, 25 goals would get you a decent return.
- jmatchett383



I would have thought this too but I have come around. I actually think moving Simmonds makes sense. I think his contract allows for every team to bid since it's easy to fit even on a playoff team.

I have liked the Couturier/Schenn pairing together. I think you add a guy like Weal and that could be a dangerous line.

Also eventually Simmonds is going to need a deal and seeing what Backes and Ladd got I could see Simmonds in that area or more.
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