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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:21 PM ET
would you do 5 for 6.5 per?
- homiedclown

stretching it...i'd really like no more than four years...the extra 250k doesn't bother me as much
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
People can claim Pysyk isn't very good all they want. Doesn't make it true.

He's a cheap #4 D man. He's not great, but he's also what we lack in terms of moving the puck

- sbroads24

he's been on the bottom pairing in florida most of the season...that said, I do miss his puck-moving abilities
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Can we get 50 points first?

Seriously how in the hell is he a 6 million dollar player?

- sbroads24

Market has already shown that Kane is worth 6 a year, people need to get over it with Kane. He isn't the problem with this team and Psysk is noplace close to a number 4 D man.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Can we get 50 points first?

Seriously how in the hell is he a 6 million dollar player?

- sbroads24

his production in on par with okposo, better when you take into account he is playing on 3rd or second line and okposo is on top line and always on top pp unit

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
Can we get 50 points first?

Seriously how in the hell is he a 6 million dollar player?

- sbroads24

best 5v5 scorer on the team...top goal scorer on the team...slotted right around okposo
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
his production in on par with okposo, better when you take into account he is playing on 3rd or second line and okposo is on top line and always on top pp unit
- homiedclown

this too
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
All of a sudden all these EX Sabre players that are gone are now worth spots on this team, it amazes me. Psysk is a joke why in the hell do we want him back here. I've never seen such a big group of people that have been screaming for change that all of a sudden wants these players back. The same players that people wanted gone.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
best 5v5 scorer on the team...top goal scorer on the team...slotted right around okposo
- Michael Pachla

He's not even going to average 45 points per season over his two years here. He's had 3 months of a great run over two years here.

If he wants 6 million per year they need to move on
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 2 @ 2:29 PM ET
He's not even going to average 45 points per season over his two years here. He's had 3 months of a great run over two years here.

If he wants 6 million per year they need to move on

- sbroads24

Problem is, you are still bitter over the trade. If Kane had 30 or so goals and Bogo 2 more goals you wouldn't be complaining.

I don't see Armia or Myers taking the Jets to the playoffs.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:29 PM ET
He's not even going to average 45 points per season over his two years here. He's had 3 months of a great run over two years here.

If he wants 6 million per year they need to move on

- sbroads24

I think term is more important...$6-6.5m doesn't bother me that much...put him on a line with jack and sam and let 'er rip
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
All of a sudden all these EX Sabre players that are gone are now worth spots on this team, it amazes me. Psysk is a joke why in the hell do we want him back here. I've never seen such a big group of people that have been screaming for change that all of a sudden wants these players back. The same players that people wanted gone.
- SABRES 89

I wouldn't care if he's gone if he was replaced with someone who's actually good.

If I dumped a 6 for an 8, I'll never think about the 6.

If I dumped a 6 for a hard 2. The 6 might end up looking pretty good
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:32 PM ET
Problem is, you are still bitter over the trade. If Kane had 30 or so goals and Bogo 2 more goals you wouldn't be complaining.

I don't see Armia or Myers taking the Jets to the playoffs.

- SABRES 89

When Kane scores 30, or Bogo plays defense, we will talk then.

Trade or no trade, Kane isn't a 6 million dollar forward
SABRES 89
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Apr 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
When Kane scores 30, or Bogo plays defense, we will talk then.

Trade or no trade, Kane isn't a 6 million dollar forward

- sbroads24

He is worth 6 mill and he will get it
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:34 PM ET
When Kane scores 30, or Bogo plays defense, we will talk then.

Trade or no trade, Kane isn't a 6 million dollar forward

- sbroads24


He might be given his age and relative to what ufas usually get.


What he isnt is a 5-8 year term player.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
When Kane scores 30, or Bogo plays defense, we will talk then.

Trade or no trade, Kane isn't a 6 million dollar forward

- sbroads24

ok...what are your numbers for a kane extension?
SABRES 89
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Apr 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
He might be given his age and relative to what ufas usually get.


What he isnt is a 5-8 year term player.

- Sabresfan-365

He is worth 5 years, I can't understand how people don't see it.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Apr 2 @ 2:39 PM ET
Kane is not the problem with this team, but some still can't let it go.
- SABRES 89

I never said Kane is the problem. I am arguing that signing him to a contract that it would take to keep him here, will become a problem in three years when the style of play catches up to him.

This team is not competing for a cup in the next three years. By the time we are good enough, he will be past his prime and not worth the cap hit.

We will have the same problem with O'Reilly. These players started the NHL grind with big minutes as teenagers and they play a physical style. Kane moreso than O'Reilly. O'Reilly is more skilled and relies less on athleticism so I don't see it being as big of a problem as I do with Kane. But, nonetheless, these players will be past their prime by the time this team is ready to compete. Physical players don't hold up. Skilled players who weigh less do. Ennis will be a better player than Kane or O'Reilly when they are all in their thirties. But we will probably give up on Ennis and double down on the others.

This was why I never liked either trade from the start. What is the point of trading for a few players that make us mediocre now and lose out on draft position, when they will be past their prime and weighing on the cap when the young kids hit their prime and the team is ready to compete.

This was Tim Murray's mistake from the start of the rebuild. He used a lot of assets trading for players to make us a little better right away and sold out on the future to do so. I said this from the beginning and took a lot of heat from a lot of people here for saying so.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:39 PM ET
He is worth 5 years, I can't understand how people don't see it.
- SABRES 89


Before his hot streak people here were ready to ship him for 10 cents on the dollar.

He has been a headache more than he has helped either team he's been on.

You have to be far more consistent to justify a salary at 6 mil over a term of 5 years or higher.

That's why i don't see it.
SABRES 89
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Apr 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
Before his hot streak people here were ready to ship him for 10 cents on the dollar.

He has been a headache more than he has helped either team he's been on.

You have to be far more consistent to justify a salary at 6 mil over a term of 5 years or higher.

That's why i don't see it.

- Sabresfan-365

He got in trouble in the offseason, how has he been a problem this year ? how ? he hasn't.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 08.16.2014

Apr 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
He is worth 5 years, I can't understand how people don't see it.
- SABRES 89

There is no way Kane will sign a deal for anything less than max term.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
He got in trouble in the offseason, how has he been a problem this year ? how ? he hasn't.
- SABRES 89



I didnt say off ice. The guy disappears for long stretches, takes careless penalties and for the majority of his career taken really low quality shots.

He's obviously a capable goal scoring winger which is why 6 mil would be fine, but over his entire career there isnt enough there to justify long term.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
There is no way Kane will sign a deal for anything less than max term.
- SabresPanacea

As he should, because he's amazing and that's that
SABRES 89
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Apr 2 @ 2:47 PM ET
I didnt say off ice. The guy disappears for long stretches, takes careless penalties and for the majority of his career taken really low quality shots.

He's obviously a capable goal scoring winger which is why 6 mil would be fine, but over his entire career there isnt enough there to justify long term.

- Sabresfan-365

That's this whole team, stop already.
SABRES 89
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Apr 2 @ 2:47 PM ET
There is no way Kane will sign a deal for anything less than max term.
- SabresPanacea

The NHL has shown that already, Andrew Ladd Says hello. I'll take Kane all day over him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
I didnt say off ice. The guy disappears for long stretches, takes careless penalties and for the majority of his career taken really low quality shots.

He's obviously a capable goal scoring winger which is why 6 mil would be fine, but over his entire career there isnt enough there to justify long term.

- Sabresfan-365

He's having his best year in like 5 or 6 years and has 40 points.

We have so many guys that are just decent, and then you have Eichel
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