With a different supporting staff however. We went to the cup in 2011 after changing in favor of newel brown. Brown is still with AV in NYR if I recall.

There's more to the coaching than most know. Its not your opinion and youre entitled to that.
- SMBDragon

Sorry Dragon you are wrong. The coach that comes here in 2018-19 will look like a genius . He wn't have a group of players telling him how to run things

One more season...which will be good for building as we're bound to get a good draft position.
- LeftCoaster

We better get at least 1 top 3 before they retire.

I like Markstrom and had thought we'd see him transitioning into a No. 1 role this season. My comment about his development stalling was based more on how he's been treated by the organization—I think even before his injury he lost ground compared to how he was used in 2015-16.

One example of a good goalie who is turning out to be a good goalie coach: Martin Brodeur. He's getting the credit for turning around Jake Allen in St. Louis during the second half of this season.
- Carol Schram

Gotcha....and I agree. I don't think Markstrom did anything to devalue himself within the organization, the management group and coaching staff just really wanted to win so they went with their guy.

Benning and company have clamored competing for a playoff spot for two years and failed miserably.

We better get at least 1 top 3 before they retire.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Next year will be tough again. Although I'm sure Vantel will preach they're better than everyone thinks and they'll once again finish near the bottom. To which he'll explain, it was a planned tank

Just looking at the Canucks scoring, Horvat with 50 points, because one of the Leaf posters said he doubted Horvat would reach the 50 point mark. Just like Nuck4U, he was wrong

On the downside, I noticed Loui Eriksson was paid 8 million dollars this year to score 11 goals....ouch. Just another reason I won't spend much money on tickets to support that kind of stupidity!!
- LeftCoaster

Both Sedins have 15 and 14 goals and 7 mil each too . Triple ouch


Our top line of Chaput Sedin and Sedin have a combined less goals as a unit that Matthews and Laine

You should hire Darryl Sutter.
- verwustung

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Sutter is so overrated. It was Lombardi that put those LA cup teams together a monkey could have coached those clubs. Sutter just came at the right time and inherited it all. Just like he took credit in Calgary for what Button did before him...no thanks.

Gotcha....and I agree. I don't think Markstrom did anything to devalue himself within the organization, the management group and coaching staff just really wanted to win so they went with their guy.

Benning and company have clamored competing for a playoff spot for two years and failed miserably.
- LeftCoaster

More holding back against the eventual re-build. Can't wait to see what happens this off season, I'm hoping this off season speaks volumes about this teams direction.

Thank you Carol and great point...it very well may be Travis Green's actual NHL-player experience that gets him hired here.

"He has often been outmatched by more skilled counterparts and has seemed reluctant to make strategic adjustments when something's not working on the ice. "

This is something I was talking about 2 losing seasons ago....after the calgary series. 2 losing seasons later people are finally coming to realize this. THis coach is NOT nhl quality and will not win in this league without a stacked bunch of assistants doing all the real work for him.
- SMBDragon

They probably just need to practice more.

Next year will be tough again. Although I'm sure Vantel will preach they're better than everyone thinks and they'll once again finish near the bottom. To which he'll explain, it was a planned tank
- LeftCoaster

Only fools can't see it . They were even on the radio about two hours ago talking about how they were tied with Cgy for a playoff spot at TDL and now 20 points out seven weeks later. Benning was being awarded with the best stealth tank job ever

We sold off our Vets and did not take on anyone at TDL

We sent down Gaunce to replace him Labate .

We shut down our second top scorer for the year although he could have played through his injury.

You're right there was no tank

We have had three different coaches in 5 years and none of them have made a difference.

Time to fire the players. Edler Tanev and the twins are bad for this team
- VANTEL

For sure.

Sorry Dragon you are wrong. The coach that comes here in 2018-19 will look like a genius . He wn't have a group of players telling him how to run things
- VANTEL

no one can say its wrong. Its just not your opinion....because mine is different than yours does NOT make it wrong.

There is more to coaching than many know

http://charlottetownislan...ts-for-golden-puck-awards

Nice. I think Bris will be solid in Utica next year

Just looking at the Canucks scoring, Horvat with 50 points, because one of the Leaf posters said he doubted Horvat would reach the 50 point mark. Just like Nuck4U, he was wrong

On the downside, I noticed Loui Eriksson was paid 8 million dollars this year to score 11 goals....ouch. Just another reason I won't spend much money on tickets to support that kind of stupidity!!
- LeftCoaster

Like a broken clock eh. At least I got the Bo trend right. Plus Carol's affirmation coaching needs to change.

Only fools can't see it . They were even on the radio about two hours ago talking about how they were tied with Cgy for a playoff spot at TDL and now 20 points out seven weeks later. Benning was being awarded with the best stealth tank job ever

We sold off our Vets and did not take on anyone at TDL

We sent down Gaunce to replace him Labate .

We shut down our second top scorer for the year although he could have played through his injury.

You're right there was no tank
- VANTEL

Come on Vantel... Calgary clearly has what we don't.... Glen Gulutzen.

It's so obvious we need to fire the coach... It's not the players fault.

More holding back against the eventual re-build. Can't wait to see what happens this off season, I'm hoping this off season speaks volumes about this teams direction.
- A_SteamingLombardi

They did the retool which is a slow rebuild I guess. Agree with you that more changes and moves need to come this off season.

Only fools can't see it . They were even on the radio about two hours ago talking about how they were tied with Cgy for a playoff spot at TDL and now 20 points out seven weeks later. Benning was being awarded with the best stealth tank job ever

We sold off our Vets and did not take on anyone at TDL

We sent down Gaunce to replace him Labate .

We shut down our second top scorer for the year although he could have played through his injury.

You're right there was no tank
- VANTEL

They are positioning for the draft pick for sure.

And I'm not convinced spending millions on a top end coach is worth our time here given the current culture/lineup. Willie did good with Bo, Tree, Stech, Granlund and baertchi why not give him a shot with Boeser Juolevi?

And what kind of message does hiring a multimillion dollar coach send to the season ticket holders? That playoffs are back on the radar? I know that the goal but sheesh we are years away. Why bring in a Gallant/Hitchcock style coach when the Sedins are running the club anyways? We'd be better off if the Sedins retired and Hank was the head coach and Daniel and Burrows were the assistants.

Biggest reason coaches get fired?

The players quit on the coach.

This is far from the case.

It's the makeup of the team.

The Ericksson contract is terrible.

This team is clearly killing time until the kids are ready.

It's time to stop killing goalies and coaches in Vancity.

Sorry Dragon you are wrong. The coach that comes here in 2018-19 will look like a genius . He wn't have a group of players telling him how to run things
- VANTEL

If you are alluding to the Sedins then a new coach who has a contract beyond their term could take control. If that was the only issue.

Biggest reason coaches get fired?

The players quit on the coach.

This is far from the case.

It's the makeup of the team.

The Ericksson contract is terrible.

This team is clearly killing time until the kids are ready.

It's time to stop killing goalies and coaches in Vancity.
- rugdnit

Agreed. Changing the coach at this point is the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig.

Unless you like that sort of thing. Then it's a good move.

Like a broken clock eh. At least I got the Bo trend right. Plus Carol's affirmation coaching needs to change.
- Nuck4U

They are positioning for the draft pick for sure.

And I'm not convinced spending millions on a top end coach is worth our time here given the current culture/lineup. Willie did good with Bo, Tree, Stech, Granlund and baertchi why not give him a shot with Boeser Juolevi?

And what kind of message does hiring a multimillion dollar coach send to the season ticket holders? That playoffs are back on the radar? I know that the goal but sheesh we are years away. Why bring in a Gallant/Hitchcock style coach when the Sedins are running the club anyways? We'd be better off if the Sedins retired and Hank was the head coach and Daniel and Burrows were the assistants.
- LordHumungous

I get what you are saying. So what if management said the same things when they brought in Babcock for the Leafs?

Wasn't Babcock there to change the culture and lay down the building blocks for the new look team that was forming?

They are positioning for the draft pick for sure.

And I'm not convinced spending millions on a top end coach is worth our time here given the current culture/lineup. Willie did good with Bo, Tree, Stech, Granlund and baertchi why not give him a shot with Boeser Juolevi?

And what kind of message does hiring a multimillion dollar coach send to the season ticket holders? That playoffs are back on the radar? I know that the goal but sheesh we are years away. Why bring in a Gallant/Hitchcock style coach when the Sedins are running the club anyways? We'd be better off if the Sedins retired and Hank was the head coach and Daniel and Burrows were the assistants.
- LordHumungous

It sends the message that we dont know what we are doing because this new coach is #4 since 2013. It also tells all other coaches that this management group (and/or owner) is erratic and unpredictable and could potentially fire you at any moment.

Since Henning started coaching the Islanders in 1994 until Capuano started with the Islanders in 2010, they went through 12 coaches who averaged 99.67 games per tenure. Oilers, since they fired MacT in 2009 up to today with McLellan have had 6 coaches, averaging 90 games per tenure.

I dont think its a coincidence that teams who change coaches often dont work their way out until they commit to one guy

We better get at least 1 top 3 before they retire.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Here's to now. You got any lucky charms for the lotto draft?

http://charlottetownislanders.com/article/two-islanders-among-finalists-for-golden-puck-awards

Nice. I think Bris will be solid in Utica next year
- CanuckDon

Nice link Donna If Brisebois won top Dman honours over Chabot that would be something