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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
(I know I'm late to the party)

Neither is Malkin or Iggy for that matter but at least the have the testicular fortitude to back up their chirps...

- geta02it


Iggy isn't a fighter? He's not a goon but for a skill player he's got a lot of career fights. Malkin fought because HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED THE HIT TO THE HEAD. I don't understand why people keep bringing that up as a comparable. He didn't fight because he ran his mouth, dude barely speaks english.

Fighting isn't part of Doughty's game and he shouldn't have to do it just because Tkachuk threw a bad elbow and then had his feelings hurt.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Mar 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
Those are the type of games you want to watch. Intensity from the beginning was awesome.
- Codes1087



That was a playoff intensity game. Beauty.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Mar 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
Iggy isn't a fighter? He's not a goon but for a skill player he's got a lot of career fights. Malkin fought because HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED THE HIT TO THE HEAD. I don't understand why people keep bringing that up as a comparable. He didn't fight because he ran his mouth, dude barely speaks english.
- Jeffmt


This^

Malkin delivered the dirty hit so he had to fight. Just like when Claude Lemieux had to fight Darren McCarty for his dirty hit on Draper.

Why would Doughty have to fight Tkachuk? Makes no sense. Let the cement heads take care of that. Now if it was Doughty that delivered the dirty hit I would expect him to answer the bell.
PancakesPenner
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.20.2012

Mar 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
(I know I'm late to the party)

Neither is Malkin or Iggy for that matter but at least the have the testicular fortitude to back up their chirps...

- geta02it


Last night marked his 72nd career fight. Not an enforcer by any means, but definitely is familiar with droppin em.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
Iggy isn't a fighter? He's not a goon but for a skill player he's got a lot of career fights. Malkin fought because HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED THE HIT TO THE HEAD. I don't understand why people keep bringing that up as a comparable. He didn't fight because he ran his mouth, dude barely speaks english.
- Jeffmt

Malkin fought because he knew it was the right thing to do. HE MANNED UP. Doughty called Tkachuk out but chose not to do anything about it when the time came. Thats the point in 95% of the comments... Doughty has reached a Burrows-esque reputation...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
Last night marked his 72nd career fight. Not an enforcer by any means, but definitely is familiar with droppin em.
- PancakesPenner

Yep in 1548 games...
Iggy is respected because he does what needs to be done. Thats the difference. I don't expect Doughty to fight, he's not that player. But if you choose to be a Richard and call out someone outside the rink, he should be prepared to answer for it. Thats the only point.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
Malkin fought because he knew it was the right thing to do. HE MANNED UP. Doughty called Tkachuk out but chose not to do anything about it when the time came. Thats the point in 95% of the comments... Doughty has reached a Burrows-esque reputation...
- geta02it


Ok, I'm going to try to go over this one more time. Malkin fought because he knew it was the right thing to do because he had something to answer for. Doughty had nothing to answer for, he's the one who got elbowed. What am I missing here? You have to fight a guy after he takes a cheap shot on you now? Is this now a thing?
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
Last night marked his 72nd career fight. Not an enforcer by any means, but definitely is familiar with droppin em.
- PancakesPenner


There were many years in Calgary when he was the toughest guy on the team. Dutter always tried to bring in someone tougher because he didn't want iggy doing that job.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
There were many years in Calgary when he was the toughest guy on the team. Dutter always tried to bring in someone tougher because he didn't want iggy doing that job.
- tincup


Eric Godard though.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
Ok, I'm going to try to go over this one more time. Malkin fought because he knew it was the right thing to do because he had something to answer for. Doughty had nothing to answer for, he's the one who got elbowed. What am I missing here? You have to fight a guy after he takes a cheap shot on you now? Is this now a thing?
- Jeffmt

Have to? No of course not, should, yep... maybe its just my age... Old school was settled on the ice nowadays its through social media.
Doughty is one hell of a player but has a bigger vagina than most porn stars.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
Have to? No of course not, should, yep... maybe its just my age... Old school was settled on the ice nowadays its through social media.
Doughty is one hell of a player but has a bigger vagina than most porn stars.

- geta02it


Should have why though? What should he have answered for?
shayne
Joined: 07.15.2016

Mar 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ok, I'm going to try to go over this one more time. Malkin fought because he knew it was the right thing to do because he had something to answer for. Doughty had nothing to answer for, he's the one who got elbowed. What am I missing here? You have to fight a guy after he takes a cheap shot on you now? Is this now a thing?
- Jeffmt



Your just a straight up idiot, maybe cause your a Leafs fan we have to drill it into your head(maybe an elbow would work). If it was you and you had a rookie cheap shot you with an elbow, would you not want to be the one to get your revenge on him? Rather than letting your boyfriends do it for you. If Doughty would have manned up and did it himself, no one here would be putting him down. He lost respect and that's the point people are making.

I hope when Doughty is thanking Mcnabb for fighting his fight he has him dome up when he goes deep.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Mar 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
Have to? No of course not, should, yep... maybe its just my age... Old school was settled on the ice nowadays its through social media.
Doughty is one hell of a player but has a bigger vagina than most porn stars.

- geta02it


you actually need to read the entire comment Doughty made and not get hung up on a sound bite
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
Should have why though? What should he have answered for?
- Jeffmt

Nothing... He's swell.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
you actually need to read the entire comment Doughty made and not get hung up on a sound bite
- fsanford

I did. Saw the Twitter feed... my point above...
And he still has a bigger vag...
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Mar 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
Your just a straight up idiot, maybe cause your a Leafs fan we have to drill it into your head(maybe an elbow would work). If it was you and you had a rookie cheap shot you with an elbow, would you not want to be the one to get your revenge on him? Rather than letting your boyfriends do it for you. If Doughty would have manned up and did it himself, no one here would be putting him down. He lost respect and that's the point people are making.

I hope when Doughty is thanking Mcnabb for fighting his fight he has him dome up when he goes deep.

- shayne


So what you are saying is that the stars in the league should always fight in the event someone takes a run at them.

So your calling Kopitar a wussy too because Iginla went after the guy that ran him?

Lots of wussy's in this league then because most of the star players have other guys do the payback for them.


geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
So what you are saying is that the stars in the league should always fight in the event someone takes a run at them.

So your calling Kopitar a wussy too because Iginla went after the guy that ran him?

Lots of wussy's in this league then because most of the star players have other guys do the payback for them.

- fsanford

Time and place. Hell even Gretzky fought (once)..well sort of did. I think if thats Kopitar in Doughty's spot mouthing off nothing is noted. Doughty is one of those guys, like Burrows, other than Doughty being one of the games best D-man. I love Doughty's game but hate his BS. I think thats the point.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Mar 30 @ 2:53 PM ET
Yes, I have no idea about hockey and have never played it at any level. You're completely right, you got me.

Maybe Doughty doesn't turtle is Tkachuk doesn't prepare to take a flying leap at him. Nah, it must be that Doughty's a dirty player and intended to break the kid's legs. That's gotta be it. Doughty should have been a man and let Tkachuk destroy him.

And why does size matter? If you want a guy to "man up" and "fight his own battles" it shouldn't matter what size you are. Is Iginla anywhere near Engelland's size? Why didn't McDavid fight Brandon Manning since they're the same size? I'm guessing Doughty didn't want to fight because he's more valuable playing than getting tossed from the game like Andreoff was.

If you want to say Doughty runs his mouth "every game" then I can't agree or disagree, I don't check the news for Drew Doughty after every Kings' game.

You can wear the red and yellow glasses all you want, but it was a Richard move by Tkachuk. Not saying he's inherently dirty, but it was a stupid play.

By the way, totally pulling for both the Flames and Preds in the playoffs this year.

- jmatchett383

I completely agree doughty didn't need to fight! And as much as i like tkachuk he got too cought up in the moment and really was off his game. in turn so was the whole team! Live and learn!! The almost open ice hit could have been devistating for the flames if tkachuk got hurt on that play!! One of the best skaters in the league all the sudden conviningtly looses an edge. Imo that is just if not more dirtier then an elbow to the face!
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:54 PM ET
Your just a straight up idiot, maybe cause your a Leafs fan we have to drill it into your head(maybe an elbow would work). If it was you and you had a rookie cheap shot you with an elbow, would you not want to be the one to get your revenge on him? Rather than letting your boyfriends do it for you. If Doughty would have manned up and did it himself, no one here would be putting him down. He lost respect and that's the point people are making.

I hope when Doughty is thanking Mcnabb for fighting his fight he has him dome up when he goes deep.

- shayne


Oh grow up. Doughty has done more than enough to earn his place in the league and he doesn't have to fight just because some rookie is trying to make a name for himself. He sure as hell doesn't have to fight because he made a comment afterwards and hurt the rookie's feelings. When did Calgary get so sensitive? I thought you guys are all supposed to be hard out there.

EDIT: I shouldn't have said "you guys" because this isn't directed at most of you. I actually really like your city.
shayne
Joined: 07.15.2016

Mar 30 @ 2:55 PM ET
So what you are saying is that the stars in the league should always fight in the event someone takes a run at them.

So your calling Kopitar a wussy too because Iginla went after the guy that ran him?

Lots of wussy's in this league then because most of the star players have other guys do the payback for them.

- fsanford



Read the last 5 pages.... Doughty called Tkachuk out right after the elbow and made it a big story with the media. If it happens in a game then that's fine, it happens all the time and players settle it. You ever heard of what happens in the room stays in the room? in case you haven't its a code that goes with hockey. Doughty made it public, if he wanted to go public he should have seen it through to the end.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:56 PM ET
Oh grow up. Doughty has done more than enough to earn his place in the league and he doesn't have to fight just because some rookie is trying to make a name for himself. He sure as hell doesn't have to fight because he made a comment afterwards and hurt the rookie's feelings. When did Calgary get so sensitive? I thought you guys are all supposed to be hard out there.
- Jeffmt

Only on pill tuesdays
GregDM
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sacramento
Joined: 07.02.2009

Mar 30 @ 2:58 PM ET
Iggy isn't a fighter? He's not a goon but for a skill player he's got a lot of career fights. Malkin fought because HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED THE HIT TO THE HEAD. I don't understand why people keep bringing that up as a comparable. He didn't fight because he ran his mouth, dude barely speaks english.

Fighting isn't part of Doughty's game and he shouldn't have to do it just because Tkachuk threw a bad elbow and then had his feelings hurt.

- Jeffmt


Thank you.
GregDM
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sacramento
Joined: 07.02.2009

Mar 30 @ 3:00 PM ET
Only on pill tuesdays

- geta02it


In the states we call it "Taco Tuesday." Guess that's kind of the same thing.
PancakesPenner
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.20.2012

Mar 30 @ 3:00 PM ET
Read the last 5 pages.... Doughty called Tkachuk out right after the elbow and made it a big story with the media. If it happens in a game then that's fine, it happens all the time and players settle it. You ever heard of what happens in the room stays in the room? in case you haven't its a code that goes with hockey. Doughty made it public, if he wanted to go public he should have seen it through to the end.
- shayne


Doughty said what he said, and the media blew it up. What I don't understand is why Flames fans get so upset about Doughty calling Tkachuk dirty (which isn't unfounded based on his play in juniors and so far in the NHL) but didn't get mad at Davidson for doing the same thing after the slewfoot Tkachuk threw. If it wasn't a big deal when Davidson did it, why is it now when Doughty did it?
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:01 PM ET
In the states we call it "Taco Tuesday." Guess that's kind of the same thing.
- GregDM

Meh...
Nothing comes out hard after taco tuesdays, lets be honest
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