Oh I didn't realize his surname actually is Ukrainian in background. - DeflatedPucks
I knew that, but only because a whole pile of Ukranians moved to Saskatchewan back in the days of settling the west Quite a few Tkachuk's, Tkatchuck's and other variations of the name where I'm from.
Doughty violated the unwritten code of the NHL by whining to the media after the loss. He made a story out of something fairly minor and could very well have forced the NHL's hand in dealing out the 2 game suspension.
If Doughty and the kings had a problem with the hit it should have been settled last night, quietly. He shouldn't have female doged and moaned to the media and I think he knows that.
I think we are justified in calling Doughty a bit of a puss. People are acting like the guy plays like Lidstrom or Karlsson. Doughty runs his mouth every game, he hacks guys in the corner, cross checks guys in front of the net, throws big hits when he has the chance and even crosses the line from time to time.
Guys like that are supposed to settle their own battles. You don't see Mark Giordano (who plays a similar style game) getting Ferland or Engelland to settle his battles. If he has a problem he deals with it himself.
If he wouldn't have went to the media then I don't think anyone would have a problem with him not fighting. - Saskabush
I knew that, but only because a whole pile of Ukranians moved to Saskatchewan back in the days of settling the west Quite a few Tkachuk's, Tkatchuck's and other variations of the name where I'm from. - Saskabush
I visited Edm a few weeks back and a buddy of mine mentioned theres a whole Ukrainian village somewhere in eastern Alberta. Guess there must be a bunch who settled in 'berta too back in the day.
(He then asked me if I wanted to go visit and I said "WTF would I want to go see some europeans working on a farm?")
I visited Edm a few weeks back and a buddy of mine mentioned theres a whole Ukrainian village somewhere in eastern Alberta. Guess there must be a bunch who settled in 'berta too back in the day.
(He then asked me if I wanted to go visit and I said "WTF would I want to go see some europeans working on a farm?") - DeflatedPucks
People have been posting a photo and commenting on the hit. Here is the video and my thoughts on it.
When you slow it down you can see that Tkachuk is in a glide and leading with his hip (lining up for a clean, hard hit). Doughty sees him coming at the last second and bails out (falls to the side). Tkachuk noticed that Doughty is bailing out and tried his best to avoid the hit altogether (leaving his feet in the process).
Now I can understand the side that says "Hey, would you want your skilled players taking big hits when they can avoid them?". That is a valid point, but the player in me (that has had a few knee injuries) absolutely hates this type of play.
Going low on a guy coming in for a hit is akin to sticking a knee out at someone as they are going by in my books. Now, nothing happened this time, but plays like this can easily result in:
a. The player who is going low getting hit in the head (or otherwise injuring themselves).
b. The player going for the hit suffering a serious knee injury (or otherwise being injured).
Both options aren't good. If Doughty takes the hit I think there is a lower chance for serious injury. Better yet, if Doughty has his head up earlier and doesn't put himself in that position then there is no opportunity for the hit to take place period.
People have been posting a photo and commenting on the hit. Here is the video and my thoughts on it.
When you slow it down you can see that Tkachuk is in a glide and leading with his hip (lining up for a clean, hard hit). Doughty sees him coming at the last second and bails out (falls to the side). Tkachuk noticed that Doughty is bailing out and tried his best to avoid the hit altogether (leaving his feet in the process).
Now I can understand the side that says "Hey, would you want your skilled players taking big hits when they can avoid them?". That is a valid point, but the player in me (that has had a few knee injuries) absolutely hates this type of play.
Going low on a guy coming in for a hit is akin to sticking a knee out at someone as they are going by in my books. Now, nothing happened this time, but plays like this can easily result in:
a. The player who is going low getting hit in the head (or otherwise injuring themselves).
b. The player going for the hit suffering a serious knee injury (or otherwise being injured).
Both options aren't good. If Doughty takes the hit I think there is a lower chance for serious injury. Better yet, if Doughty has his head up earlier and doesn't put himself in that position then there is no opportunity for the hit to take place period. - Saskabush
A good solid analysis, I would have to agree (Having multiple knee injuries from hockey as well) Doughty did put himself in that spot, and pulled the shoot last second making it look a lot worse than it was.
I visited Edm a few weeks back and a buddy of mine mentioned theres a whole Ukrainian village somewhere in eastern Alberta. Guess there must be a bunch who settled in 'berta too back in the day.
(He then asked me if I wanted to go visit and I said "WTF would I want to go see some europeans working on a farm?") - DeflatedPucks
Yeah quite a few Ukranians in the prairie provinces. Free/cheap land and farming is what lured them here.
People have been posting a photo and commenting on the hit. Here is the video and my thoughts on it.
When you slow it down you can see that Tkachuk is in a glide and leading with his hip (lining up for a clean, hard hit). Doughty sees him coming at the last second and bails out (falls to the side). Tkachuk noticed that Doughty is bailing out and tried his best to avoid the hit altogether (leaving his feet in the process).
Now I can understand the side that says "Hey, would you want your skilled players taking big hits when they can avoid them?". That is a valid point, but the player in me (that has had a few knee injuries) absolutely hates this type of play.
Going low on a guy coming in for a hit is akin to sticking a knee out at someone as they are going by in my books. Now, nothing happened this time, but plays like this can easily result in:
a. The player who is going low getting hit in the head (or otherwise injuring themselves).
b. The player going for the hit suffering a serious knee injury (or otherwise being injured).
Both options aren't good. If Doughty takes the hit I think there is a lower chance for serious injury. Better yet, if Doughty has his head up earlier and doesn't put himself in that position then there is no opportunity for the hit to take place period. - Saskabush
Honestly, it looked like a nice dodge on a big hit.
Chucky got the worst of it, but really that's giving it too much thought. Love that he drew a penalty though.
Shame we couldn't win the game. Was a fun one to watch.
Right, Malkin had to fight because Malkin is the one who delivered the hit to the head. Why should Doughty have to fight for getting elbowed in the head? You understand why those scenarios aren't the same thing, right?
And regardless of how bad the hit would or wouldn't have been had it landed, you don't take an open ice hit if you don't have to. There's no point. - Jeffmt
thanks for clarifying this, I read his argument and thought WTF..
Anyone think we might be in on Spencer Foo? Don't know a whole lot about him but he's a right shot RW/C that looks like he could be a top 9 player. He's from Edmonton but maybe he signs with us to be closer to home (we could have more opportunities at RW than the Oilers could offer).
Doughty violated the unwritten code of the NHL by whining to the media after the loss. He made a story out of something fairly minor and could very well have forced the NHL's hand in dealing out the 2 game suspension.
If Doughty and the kings had a problem with the hit it should have been settled last night, quietly. He shouldn't have female doged and moaned to the media and I think he knows that.
I think we are justified in calling Doughty a bit of a puss. People are acting like the guy plays like Lidstrom or Karlsson. Doughty runs his mouth every game, he hacks guys in the corner, cross checks guys in front of the net, throws big hits when he has the chance and even crosses the line from time to time.
Guys like that are supposed to settle their own battles. You don't see Mark Giordano (who plays a similar style game) getting Ferland or Engelland to settle his battles. If he has a problem he deals with it himself.
If he wouldn't have went to the media then I don't think anyone would have a problem with him not fighting. - Saskabush
Did you actually read the entire quote, or are you just basing your comments on what you have "heard."
Doughty also stated in the same line of question, it was partially his fault because he likes to get under people's skin and he did not think Tkachuk was trying to intentionally hurt him.
Media today is, unfortunately. about tag lines and sensationalizing things.
Also did anyone mention that it was one guy that ran down Doughty after he was leaving the building when they asked this question. He was not sitting in the locker room with a bunch of reporters crying about it
People have been posting a photo and commenting on the hit. Here is the video and my thoughts on it.
When you slow it down you can see that Tkachuk is in a glide and leading with his hip (lining up for a clean, hard hit). Doughty sees him coming at the last second and bails out (falls to the side). Tkachuk noticed that Doughty is bailing out and tried his best to avoid the hit altogether (leaving his feet in the process).
Now I can understand the side that says "Hey, would you want your skilled players taking big hits when they can avoid them?". That is a valid point, but the player in me (that has had a few knee injuries) absolutely hates this type of play.
Going low on a guy coming in for a hit is akin to sticking a knee out at someone as they are going by in my books. Now, nothing happened this time, but plays like this can easily result in:
a. The player who is going low getting hit in the head (or otherwise injuring themselves).
b. The player going for the hit suffering a serious knee injury (or otherwise being injured).
Both options aren't good. If Doughty takes the hit I think there is a lower chance for serious injury. Better yet, if Doughty has his head up earlier and doesn't put himself in that position then there is no opportunity for the hit to take place period. - Saskabush
I think that's a fair analysis. I don't have any problem with Tkachuk's attempted hit. His feet would have been on the ice at the point of contact had Doughty stayed up. It looked worse in real time/different angle, so I also understand why Andreoff went after him.
Honestly, it looked like a nice dodge on a big hit.
Chucky got the worst of it, but really that's giving it too much thought. Love that he drew a penalty though.
Shame we couldn't win the game. Was a fun one to watch. - fry
My hate for the dodge is more of a personal opinion. I understand why Doughty did it, just don't like it
Yeah we didn't really play our game. They let themselves get distracted by the side show. It was entertaining as hell but hopefully they come out hard tomorrow and just play their game
I think that's a fair analysis. I don't have any problem with Tkachuk's attempted hit. His feet would have been on the ice at the point of contact had Doughty stayed up. It looked worse in real time/different angle, so I also understand why Andreoff went after him. - GregDM
Agreed. It was pretty much nothing. Tkachuk went for a big open ice hit, Doughty got out of the way, Andreoff probably didn't even see it but did his job and went to stand up for his teammate, and Tkachuk didn't let himself get dragged into a fight for no reason. Nothing really to get heated about.
I think that's a fair analysis. I don't have any problem with Tkachuk's attempted hit. His feet would have been on the ice at the point of contact had Doughty stayed up. It looked worse in real time/different angle, so I also understand why Andreoff went after him. - GregDM
Yep, understood that too--no problem with him going after Tkachuk after that. I really liked the call by the refs though. They recognized that it was a clean hit and didn't punish Tkachuk for trying to throw it and gave out a penalty to the other team for going after him. That's exactly what I want to see from the refs when teams go after guys after a clean hit.
Gaudreau gets hit on his right hand, waives in pseudo pain with his left hand.. Makes a euro soccer player proud.. - Johnny22
Pretty sure the blade of the stick hit him on the finger tips of his left hand (his right hand may have also been hit). Looked to me like he got hit in that stretchy webbing stuff under the protected part of the glove (which does hurt like a mother (frank)er when it happens!).
My hate for the dodge is more of a personal opinion. I understand why Doughty did it, just don't like it
Yeah we didn't really play our game. They let themselves get distracted by the side show. It was entertaining as hell but hopefully they come out hard tomorrow and just play their game - Saskabush
There is lowbridging, theres angling backwards to dodge, and there's sticking knees out when you miss the hit.
Saw most knee injuries personally with knee-on-knees. Was a very accomplished low bridger throughout Junior C and only inflicted upper body injuries with those.
Never hurt someone's knee by dropping low if I went straight at them. Sure made their team mad though. Never received even one penalty for a low bridge.
It was a heck of a game to watch, although a bit of a circus. The Tkachuk kid really has the combined hockey skills and the ability to annoy everyone. Looks like his future is secure. But how about old Jerome playing a heck of a game and showing the Calgary crowd has its done! He is still delivering, even at his age. Bishop looked good to, sign him up Chevy!
There is lowbridging, theres angling backwards to dodge, and there's sticking knees out when you miss the hit.
Saw most knee injuries personally with knee-on-knees. Was a very accomplished low bridger throughout Junior C and only inflicted upper body injuries with those.
Never hurt someone's knee by dropping low if I went straight at them. Sure made their team mad though. Never received even one penalty for a low bridge. - fry
I would probably be among the people that hated you!
My worst knee injury was because of a knee on knee. Hurt my back/shoulders a few times because of low bridges (ended up going face first towards the ice). So I guess you are right about that
I would probably be among the people that hated you!
My worst knee injury was because of a knee on knee. Hurt my back/shoulders a few times because of low bridges (ended up going face first towards the ice). So I guess you are right about that - Saskabush
It's so unexpected when that happens. One second your lining up shoulders and the next you're arcing into the ice at full speed. Happened to me once or twice also.
Knee on knees are bad news though. Wish there was a better way to avoid them.
Doughty isn't a fighter. I don't know why anyone would expect him to fight. When has anyone ever been expected to fight for being on the receiving end of an elbow? - Jeffmt
(I know I'm late to the party)
Neither is Malkin or Iggy for that matter but at least the have the testicular fortitude to back up their chirps...
Quite a few Tkachuk's, Tkatchuck's and other variations of the name where I'm from. 
