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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:01 PM ET
the hell..what page is that on?Q???
- opeth_pa

PM me baby. Nickel for a tickle.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 28 @ 9:02 PM ET
Bobby Ryan straight up for Andrew Macdonald ? Would ya ?
- landros 2

Oh god no
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 28 @ 9:03 PM ET
Woof for both teams.
- hereticpride


That's what makes it debatable!! Well in my mind anyways.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:03 PM ET
That's what makes it debatable!! Well in my mind anyways.
- landros 2

You want to start another thing we get to 'debate' for a year?

Silence you.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM ET
You want to start another thing we get to 'debate' for a year?

Silence you.

- flyer_nutter

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
You lack understanding of roles on a team. If you did, you'd know that Vandevelde and Weal aren't and never will be competing for ice time. Weal is a more talented offensive player, but he does not have the size or checking ability that Vandevelde has. Nor do we know that Weal would be a better PKer in the NHL. Two completely different players.
- MJL


Vandevelde is poop in any NHL role including the PK. We have no evidence Weal would be bad at the PK. He's been their best shot suppression forward in his 17 games with the Flyers this season.

Even so, Read would be fine on the PK and would be an upgrade over VDV. Weal would have been an upgrade on the 4th line and the team could have kept him past this season.

Instead, Weal is a UFA, the PK was terrible and the 4th line was atrocious.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
Ghost would be good on the PK if ever used there.

He will never ever ever be used there.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
Ohhh. Like 'Of Mice and Men'.

I'm trying the Stand right now. 100 pages in, like 1000 to go. It's good but the length kills motivation.

- flyer_nutter


Keep going. Trust me on this.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
That's what makes it debatable!! Well in my mind anyways.
- landros 2

You could probably get a huge haul for Giroux from Ottawa if you took Bobby Ryan off their hands. That deal is almost Dustin Brown bad.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 9:06 PM ET
The Richard Cherry streak of 69. Never forget.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:06 PM ET
I've been trying to think who couturier reminds me of with no beard.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
Vandevelde is poop in any NHL role including the PK. We have no evidence Weal would be bad at the PK. He's been their best shot suppression forward in his 17 games with the Flyers this season.

Even so, Read would be fine on the PK and would be an upgrade over VDV. Weal would have been an upgrade on the 4th line and the team could have kept him past this season.

Instead, Weal is a UFA, the PK was terrible and the 4th line was atrocious.

- PhillySportsGuy


What happened to it not being about Vandevelde?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
Instead, Weal is a UFA, the PK was terrible and the 4th line was atrocious.
- PhillySportsGuy


It's not about where you end up. It's about the journey to get there. And what a journey it was this year.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
Bought him a Scion.

I had to drive my moms old light green Sunbird.

- flyer_nutter

He started with his Grandfather's outback that he drove for two yrs. We traded that for a Corolla he totalled after a month. (Not his fault). Then we bought a Scion which turned out to be a victim of Sandy and started falling apart (Was a purchase made against my better judgment). So I trashed that one for a newer model.

I've dumped 5 grand into the 4 yr process (mostly into trying to fix the first Scion). He's paid all the rest.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
PM me baby. Nickel for a tickle.
- flyer_nutter


100% my new pickup line.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM ET
100% my new pickup line.
- opeth_pa

Girls may question what "pm me" means.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM ET
I've been trying to think who couturier reminds me of with no beard
- flyer_nutter


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM ET
He started with his Grandfather's outback that he drove for two yrs. We traded that for a Corolla he totalled after a month. (Not his fault). Then we bought a Scion which turned out to be a victim of Sandy and started falling apart (Was a purchase made against my better judgment). So I trashed that one for a newer model.

I've dumped 5 grand into the 4 yr process (mostly into trying to fix the first Scion). He's paid all the rest.

- mayorofangrytown

That Corolla was all you man.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Girls may question what "pm me" means.
- flyer_nutter



As long as the girls dont question Hak I will be okay with it.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
As long as the girls dont question Hak I will be okay with it.
- opeth_pa

Haha. This is some good poop tonight. Well done.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
"That one glanced off the glass." is hockey speak for "jjjjjjjjjjjjust a bit outside."
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
I want VDV to score the winner SH. I believe.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
What happened to it not being about Vandevelde?

- MJL


What the (frank) are you talking about?

Do I have to lay this out like it's a (frank)ing proof?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
He's been their best shot suppression forward in his 17 games with the Flyers this season
- PhillySportsGuy


Didn't know this. I wonder why. I do think it's a stretch to call him anything more than respectable defensively in the traditional sense......but there's always a reason for this. Whatever line he has been on has done well, even when it wasn't doing well prior or after. It's intriguing, even if I don't expect this going forward to this extent. But we really have no real, usable data on Weal prior to this, so it's all learning. Obviously, he's been sheltered, so that's worth mentioning, even if who gives a poop? Doing well is doing well. Period.

He's intelligent obviously in reading plays, and the guy just works his ass off in both ends. You can just see how important every shift is. No slack in the d zone. He's moving, doing his best. Don't know the stats, but wouldn't surprise me to see him be exceptional at zone exits, low on turnovers. On his off wing yet, he's quite adept at getting it out with possession. And gaining the blue line with possession using clever passes. In the o-zone he's also adept at sustaining cycles, which has an impact in playing less d.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
What the (frank) are you talking about?

Do I have to lay this out like it's a (frank)ing proof?

- PhillySportsGuy


You darn right well know what I'm talking about. That's without delving into your poor use of shot metrics to fit your narrative.
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