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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:19 PM ET
It's not about that. We were talking about future leadership. Who has the qualities to be that. For a young core going forward he will be one of them.

This is based on tracking him from draft and how he's trending and developing in making this team. It's not a reach. Many players with higher profile billings, before even entering the league, get pegged as future leaders for their teams.

So take it as speculation or observation and theorizing. More will be revealed in time.

- Nuck4U


The timing for BO being captain is too soon.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:20 PM ET
just seems like your putting a lot of pressure on a kid
- Redmile247

This is Bo freaking Horvat not some Calgary scrub like the coke smurf or Bennet. Bo has been a leader since his preschool days
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 27 @ 8:21 PM ET
Sorry. How does one speak to a rock?
- Nighthawk



Everybody must get stoned
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 27 @ 8:21 PM ET
who takes over in 15 months when Henrik retires? We don't exactly have any other options
- CanuckDon


Well you have 15 months to find an option ...i just think it might be foolish to put all that on a young player ....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Everybody must get stoned
- VANTEL



πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Virtanen is certainly saying the right things...he mentioned that competition will be steep with Boucher, Goblin and Boeser so he needs to have the best summer of his life training and improving his conditioning. Time will tell whether or not he takes it serious.
- CanuckDon



Another sign he's realized there is serious competition. If he wants to stand out he has to bring a power forward game. He will work hard I believe to prove that.

What may hold him back is his hockey IQ. Like how long it will take for him to get how to play at a higher level and consistently.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Well you have 15 months to find an option ...i just think it might be foolish to put all that on a young player ....
- Redmile247

Mcdavid....Crosby....Horvat has greater leadership instincts than those two in my opinion. and he will be named captain 3 or 4 years after those two. He is a big boy and will be fine.

edit. he will be 23 when he is named captain. he ain't some clueless kid
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
Serious question...

How many of you think Torts was thrilled to inherit Henrik as captain? IMO the incompatibility of the leadership structure he inherited is why he failed here.

- DrChristianTroy


Torts was talking up his new players like he was the luckiest man in the universe and praised the Sedins as elie players/leaders. It was awkward even... but it seemed like he really believed he could squeeze more out of this team than AV and felt fortunate.... and then Torts did what Torts does best, counter his good attributes and turn into a train wreck. I'll assume it happens eventually in Columbus.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
Well you have 15 months to find an option ...i just think it might be foolish to put all that on a young player ....
- Redmile247


As of now i must agree. 15mths is far down the road yet.
Lots can happen between now & then. If BO is ready fine.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
I'm not eager. Someone spoke of who replaces Hank when he retires. Then most believe a kid should be rushed into to captaincy.
- Nighthawk


There were flames fans who wanted to trade gio and name monahan captain once upon a time ...I don't get the rush ...I mean it worked so well for Landy in Colorado
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:26 PM ET
just seems like your putting a lot of pressure on a kid
- Redmile247


plenty of younger captains in the NHL right now.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 27 @ 8:27 PM ET
This is Bo freaking Horvat not some Calgary scrub like the coke smurf or Bennet. Bo has been a leader since his preschool days
- CanuckDon


That's gold Jerry!!! Gold !!!!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:27 PM ET
There were flames fans who wanted to trade gio and name monahan captain once upon a time ...I don't get the rush ...I mean it worked so well for Landy in Colorado
- Redmile247

23 is NOT young to be a captain.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:28 PM ET
Another sign he's realized there is serious competition. If he wants to stand out he has to bring a power forward game. He will work hard I believe to prove that.

What may hold him back is his hockey IQ. Like how long it will take for him to get how to play at a higher level and consistently.

- Nuck4U


A player like JV like has to learn the adjustments needed to be a pro.
He has a mans body but behind in maturity & hockey IQ.
A Smart player is a student of the game. Just ask Sid.
Talent alone only goes so far & the NHL has many more wash outs than success stories if only talent mattered. The list is so long its not worth starting one.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
I think Bo & Gudbrandson would be good captain material, do they need to name a C as soon as Hank is done...no, they can rotate the alternate Captains for a couple seasons.
It's not like this team will be competing for the cup in the next 3 seasons.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:32 PM ET
A leader is a leader. Birthdate is irrelevant.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
There's a reason Bieksa was one of the most hated guys in the league for a 2 year stretch. I was on board.... until he totally female doged out against ferland.... Bieksa is all about the fame.
- Crazybagoham


He did it the entire run in 2011... I forget the quotes now but made no shortage of posts about it back during the playoffs that year..."Rene's haircut", "Recchi is too old", "Thomas is showing cracks, should of had that one", he had stuff to say about the Hawks players and Sharks players as well... everyone was laughing at his Rodney Dangerfield routine... I just saw a guy putting himself first when ever there was a camera/mic around... he was always that way... it's all funny til you lose a cup...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
I think Bof & Gudbrandson would be good captain material, do they need to name a C as soon as Hank is done...no, they can rotate the alternate Captains for a couple seasons.
It's not like this team will be competing for the cup in the next 3 seasons.

- Reubenkincade

WTF?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Mar 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
So how would you spin it if he called someone that?
- VanHockeyGuy

i wouldn't spin anything... if I thought he was being unfair toward someone, I'd tell him the same thing.

I just don't get why anyone would go after another Nux fan like that... he puts up his thoughts on the team. i might not agree with them or I might... but i'm not gonna tell everyone to boycott the guy...

Fans should throw out their ideas and we can discuss them or debate them...
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
The timing for BO being captain is too soon.
- Nighthawk



That post and conversation you replied to was on BB and if he had leadership qualities.

As for Bo. Well it will be year 4 of his NHL career. He should be able to handle it by then.

If not, depends on who's left among the older group. Not much there. Maybe Guddy but then how do you do that and take It a way later to give to Bo.

So it's probably a lock for 2018-2019 season that Bo gets the C; unless something drastic happens in player movement.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
Mcdavid....Crosby....Horvat has greater leadership instincts than those two in my opinion. and he will be named captain 3 or 4 years after those two. He is a big boy and will be fine.

edit. he will be 23 when he is named captain. he ain't some clueless kid

- CanuckDon


Leadership is leading the way by setting the examples in many ways.
Players follow leaders naturally. Annointing a player with the C is only the final act.
It has nothing to with stats or popularity & everything to do with standing above the rest taking a team to greater heights that only leaders can do.
Nobody needs a letter to be a leader but the Captain does run the team by setting down expectations & accountability. Handling the media is the most thankless aspect but its necessary sad to say.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Mar 27 @ 8:37 PM ET
Everybody must get stoned
- VANTEL


great response
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
There were flames fans who wanted to trade gio and name monahan captain once upon a time ...I don't get the rush ...I mean it worked so well for Landy in Colorado
- Redmile247


Prolly those same ppl never played competitive sports & believe popular choices r the correct choices. If general consensus mattered there would be more geniusesπŸ˜‚πŸ‘
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
Leadership is leading the way by setting the examples in many ways.
Players follow leaders naturally. Annointing a player with the C is only the final act.
It has nothing to with stats or popularity & everything to do with standing above the rest taking a team to greater heights that only leaders can do.
Nobody needs a letter to be a leader but the Captain does run the team by setting down expectations & accountability. Handling the media is the most thankless aspect but its necessary sad to say.

- Nighthawk


like with points?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:39 PM ET


Hambag your up

- CanuckDon


It's cool, I enjoy being compared to The Rock
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