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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Mar 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
Arithmetic. Go back. Do it. Counting is hard.
- FLflames34



Deleting your account is hard I see. Brendan Shanahan
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Mar 26 @ 10:54 PM ET
Deleting your account is hard I see. Brendan Shanahan
- DeflatedPucks

You are serious about that? Lol.

Also, Shanahan was awesome. Again, go and count..i know writing a list is hard for you because it involves thought. Perhaps you'll find a meme tomorrow that did all the work for you. Probably not though!
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Mar 26 @ 11:13 PM ET
You are serious about that? Lol.

Also, Shanahan was awesome. Again, go and count..i know writing a list is hard for you because it involves thought. Perhaps you'll find a meme tomorrow that did all the work for you. Probably not though!

- FLflames34


Just because you think someone is awesome doesn't automatically make them one of the top pure goal scorers of all time, kid.

And going past the second round of the playoffs doesn't make someone a winner either.

I know hockey is hard for you because it involves actually watching games and maybe looking up some stats. Perhaps you will realize your folly tomorrow. Probably not though! (and HB is all the worse for it)
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Mar 26 @ 11:18 PM ET
Just because you think someone is awesome doesn't automatically make them one of the top pure goal scorers of all time, kid.

And going past the second round of the playoffs doesn't make someone a winner either.

I know hockey is hard for you because it involves actually watching games and maybe looking up some stats. Perhaps you will realize your folly tomorrow. Probably not though! (and HB is all the worse for it)

- DeflatedPucks

Still waiting on your list, father.

You pick and refute, yet, don't counter. Hartford lost a team because of losing Shanahan. But yes I am a kid and he was a terrible scorer.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Mar 26 @ 11:24 PM ET
clicking on these Tanner blogs is like driving by a car crash....you know you shouldn't slow down and look, in fear of seeing something awful, but for some reason you do anyway.

yep....awful.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Mar 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
clicking on these Tanner blogs is like driving by a car crash....you know you shouldn't slow down and look, in fear of seeing something awful, but for some reason you do anyway.

yep....awful.

- JLO961



#TrueStory
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Mar 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
Still waiting on your list, father.

You pick and refute, yet, don't counter. Hartford lost a team because of losing Shanahan. But yes I am a kid and he was a terrible scorer.

- FLflames34



Here's a counter: Ovechkin is a top 10 pure goal scorer in NHL history and a HOF lock.

Maybe one day he will make your 'list.'
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Mar 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
clicking on these Tanner blogs is like driving by a car crash....you know you shouldn't slow down and look, in fear of seeing something awful, but for some reason you do anyway.

yep....awful.

- JLO961

Post of the day!
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Mar 26 @ 11:44 PM ET
Here's a counter: Ovechkin is a top 10 pure goal scorer in NHL history and a HOF lock.

Maybe one day he will make your 'list.'

- DeflatedPucks



5th fastest to 500 goals.
4th in goals per game (over 500 games played).
One of 3 players to have at least seven 50 goal seasons.



Not a top 10 goal scorer.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Mar 27 @ 12:09 AM ET
http://bleacherreport.com...-goal-scorers-of-all-time

At their peak, I think most of the guys on this list are ahead of Ovi, certainly 10 of them. Throwing out a "top ten" comment is something that should be thought of before spoken out loud.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Mar 27 @ 1:44 AM ET
Nope. All of them also know how to win.


- FLflames34


(frank), you're stupid.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Mar 27 @ 7:10 AM ET
Still waiting on your list, father.

You pick and refute, yet, don't counter. Hartford lost a team because of losing Shanahan. But yes I am a kid and he was a terrible scorer.

- FLflames34

if your talking relative to their time gretzky is the greatest goal scorer but since the sport is evolving constantly ovechkin is the best all time. if you put ovechkin at his current skill level with his shot back in time and played against teams and goalies of those days he would destroy every scoring record there is.

p.s. tanner is either a troll or a moron. Coming from a huge leafs fan Gardiner is no where near norris quality.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:03 AM ET
if your talking relative to their time gretzky is the greatest goal scorer but since the sport is evolving constantly ovechkin is the best all time. if you put ovechkin at his current skill level with his shot back in time and played against teams and goalies of those days he would destroy every scoring record there is.

p.s. tanner is either a troll or a moron. Coming from a huge leafs fan Gardiner is no where near norris quality.

- HealthyScratch6

I would consider ranking him high in both categories...
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:36 AM ET
I mean you just surpassed Richard Cloutier and that's quite a feat. You do realize that Chiarelli will be in contention for GM of the year and yet you call him terrible.

There is no way Hall and his ego could co-exist with McDavid.

- Reveen.



Who's contention? A bunch of idiots who just look at the standings? I talk to a lot of people who know way more about hockey than me and not one of them respects Chiarelli.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:40 AM ET
http://bleacherreport.com...-goal-scorers-of-all-time

At their peak, I think most of the guys on this list are ahead of Ovi, certainly 10 of them. Throwing out a "top ten" comment is something that should be thought of before spoken out loud.

- JLO961



I love that you just wrote this after insulting my blogs. Are you kidding me?

Ovechkin is a better goal scorer than Wayne Gretzky. That is a mathematical fact based on how many goals Ovechkin has in his era and adjusting it to the era when Grant Fuhr was a hall of fame quality goalie.

Even though he played in practically the lowest scoring era in NHL history, OV has seven 50 goal seasons.

This is a stupid argument because it can be proven and has been.

Then again, the kind of people that find my writing stupid because it's not the same generic unthinking crap you're used to are the exact kind of people who don't believe in things like facts and measuring.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:44 AM ET
if your talking relative to their time gretzky is the greatest goal scorer but since the sport is evolving constantly ovechkin is the best all time. if you put ovechkin at his current skill level with his shot back in time and played against teams and goalies of those days he would destroy every scoring record there is.

p.s. tanner is either a troll or a moron. Coming from a huge leafs fan Gardiner is no where near norris quality.

- HealthyScratch6



OK get this: a free thinking person has a different opinion than you do - and can back it up with actual statistics - and doesn't have to be a moron or a troll.



Gardiner leads the Leafs D in all offensive and defensive categories. Only three player in the NHL have been on the ice for more goals for (current as of last week, anyway) and he is ranked 10 in defenseman WAR.

Certainly I'm not out of bounds for thinking he deserves some consideration.

But no, don't measure anything, just go by your "knowledge" that he's still the same player he was five years ago.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 27 @ 9:44 AM ET
October is part of the hockey season, you just can't remove it from the records just to try and make your point.
- the_eye

When one walks around with hubris 24/7 like him, its easy to say poop like that.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:47 AM ET
When one walks around with hubris 24/7 like him, its easy to say poop like that.
- blackhawk24


And award for lamest use of a thesaurus goes to.........
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
When one walks around with hubris 24/7 like him, its easy to say poop like that.
- blackhawk24



Plus, use your brain.......someone...... the NHL season is 7 months long. No one is saying October doesn't count, but if a team won all the games in a single month and in the other six months are hardly a playoff team, that seems to be something worth commenting on/ knowing.


I mean, if you were going to make a bet, wouldn't you want that information? Do you seriously think that if two teams have the same record that you shouldn't be interested in knowing how they each came by it?

The frustrating thing here is that - like everyone - I say dumb crap every day, but it's never the dumb stuff that actually gets called out. It's ironically usually the stuff that I'm right about.
OGoilerfan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 04.15.2014

Mar 27 @ 10:41 AM ET
James Tanner is truly the worst.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
And award for lamest use of a thesaurus goes to.........
- James_Tanner

Award goes to you, jackass. If you're not telling someone they're stupid, you're bragging about how smart you are. You and your Master of Arts. That and $5 gets you a Starbucks. Regular size. Wise up punk.

#snowflake

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ur07OFbHs9c

When you get off your gov't-funded tablet, don't forget to ask, "....you want fries with that?"
wilkobecks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.07.2014

Mar 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
hits to the head, boarding, suckerpunches, slewfooting also happen but should be dealt with. slashing is a penalty and dangerous and shouldn't be part of the game. How exactly does slashing improve the game?
- ChrisMS



Anyone who has to have part of their body reattached would probably say that the slash was "egregious". if it helps, Crosby also slewfooted someone later in the game
wilkobecks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.07.2014

Mar 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
If they're going to start handing out suspensions for slashing (ones that have a terrible result), you have to start doing it at the beginning of the season. You can't start doing it 10 games before the seasons end......it's absurd to even suggest it.

Does Melnyk understand he signs Chris Neils paycheck?

- madmike71


Chris Neil has a better disciplinary record than lots of guys in the league despite being high up on the active PIMs list, what's your point?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Award goes to you, jackass. If you're not telling someone they're stupid, you're bragging about how smart you are. You and your Master of Arts. That and $5 gets you a Starbucks. Regular size. Wise up punk.

#snowflake

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ur07OFbHs9c

When you get off your gov't-funded tablet, don't forget to ask, "....you want fries with that?"

- blackhawk24



Wow super amazing litany of cliched insults. "Wise up Punk" has to be my favorite. You are truly awesome. I just want to know one thing: did you imagine yourself as Clint Eastwood when you wrote that?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
I love that you just wrote this after insulting my blogs. Are you kidding me?

Ovechkin is a better goal scorer than Wayne Gretzky. That is a mathematical fact based on how many goals Ovechkin has in his era and adjusting it to the era when Grant Fuhr was a hall of fame quality goalie.

Even though he played in practically the lowest scoring era in NHL history, OV has seven 50 goal seasons.

This is a stupid argument because it can be proven and has been.

Then again, the kind of people that find my writing stupid because it's not the same generic unthinking crap you're used to are the exact kind of people who don't believe in things like facts and measuring.

- James_Tanner


I don't really think you can compare different era's to be honest...sure you can make some sort of educated guess but that's about all it is.

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At 1 time a NHL guy couldn't carry the puck more then 2 feet without being hooked and held....etc etc.

Ovechkin is one of the best from his era...but being the best goal scorer doesnt win you much, I'd rather have Crosby if I'm trying to win games.

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