I think 2 years from now, maybe 3, is when Hexy pulls the trigger on a high end FA signing as a means to add the final missing piece. In the meantime, I see them going heavy on forwards in the next 2 drafts, and hopefully their first round picks continue to be solid higher end choices, no matter where in the first round they pick. If the past few drafts are any indication, it seems the scouting department knows what they are doing in terms of picking players that aren't slam dunks like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel Marner, Laine etc.
- MBFlyerfan

Makes sense I suppose.

Personally I think a big FA signing won't be enough. I have real doubts about G and the rest of the core guys up front. The biggest issue with the current club lies there in my eyes.

Will interesting to see what Hextall does. Sounds cliche hah, but star power is what I see lacking going forward. Again, hope is they find another Richards/carter/G drafting late.

Unless they can get into 1 of the top 2 spots their dont seem to be many homeruns right?
- opeth_pa

True.

Thing is, if they were homeruns you'd never be able to realistically trade up.

That's kinda my point.....every team had a different starting point, but no team got better without using EVERY possible type of transaction to get better.....you can't just sit back and wait for the kids to develop....ie (the 2010-2015 Edmonton Oilers). You can do it with great drafting and developing, smart trades that are made with today and the future in mind and sensible Free agents.
- landros 2

the Flyers aren't in a position to sign a high ticket UFA nor do I want them to. too often its for too long term and too costly. i can see a trade happening tho if it makes sense. not just for the sake of a trade

Makes sense I suppose.

Personally I think a big FA signing won't be enough. I have real doubts about G and the rest of the core guys up front. The biggest issue with the current club lies there on my eyes.

Will interesting to see what Hextall does. Sounds cliche hah, but star power is what I see lacking going forward. Again, hope is they find another Richards/carter/G drafting late.
- flyer_nutter

It might not be. Especially if G and Jake continue their downward trends as players.

At least 2Real is funny.

It might not be. Especially if G and Jake continue their downward trends as players.
- MBFlyerfan

I think jake will be okay going forward. I don't think he can consistently lead a line, which is okay.

The decline of G is really putting them in a hole. The need for a young top centre is dire. I thought he'd give them a few more years in terms of a window, to find that player.

True.

Thing is, if they were homeruns you'd never be able to realistically trade up.
- flyer_nutter

I think the point is that, is the player available at 5 significantly better than the players who will be available at 10-12? According to what I have read the answer is no. So why waste assets to move up, especially in this draft year?

Don't mind that look but would like to add a "get in your face" type of player
A poop disturber..that can play
- 3flyerkids

Roussel..perfect fit.

Don't mind that look but would like to add a "get in your face" type of player
A poop disturber..that can play
- 3flyerkids

Roussel..perfect fit.

I think the point is that, is the player available at 5 significantly better than the players who will be available at 10-12. According to what I have read the answer is no. So why waste assets to move up, especially in this draft year?
- MBFlyerfan

Makes sense. Obviously if the club feels there isn't a player worth a move like that, making one for the sake of doing so is folly.

True.

Thing is, if they were homeruns you'd never be able to realistically trade up.
- flyer_nutter

Good point..

I wonder if they could package one of the d prospects and a few of the picks to move up into those spots..

Are either Patrick or Hischeir viewed along the same lines as a Matthews type?
It seems Patrick is the consensus number 1..

Good point..

I wonder if they could package one of the d prospects and a few of the picks to move up into those spots..

Are either Patrick or Hischeir viewed along the same lines as a Matthews type?
It seems Patrick is the consensus number 1..
- opeth_pa

If they were to make a move like that.

I'd be trying to lead a trade with Simmonds or Schenn instead of picks/d-prospects.

May not be enough, but we all know my thoughts on the retool vs rebuild.

Makes sense. Obviously if the club feels there isn't a player worth a move like that, making one for the sake of doing so is folly.
- flyer_nutter

I see it as a weak draft year overall. After Patrick and Hischier, who seem to be consensus 1-2. 2-1, the rest are all over the place.

For example, one site had Middlestadt ranked 3rd in one list, and 10th in another. Owen Tippet 4th and 12th. Tolvanen 4th and 14th. Rasmussen 7th and 20th. Timothy Lijlgren 2nd and 7th.....

Granted, these lists are from February, but it still illustrates the lack of consensus.

Good point..

I wonder if they could package one of the d prospects and a few of the picks to move up into those spots..

Are either Patrick or Hischeir viewed along the same lines as a Matthews type?
It seems Patrick is the consensus number 1..
- opeth_pa

Hard to tell with Patrick, he always seems to be hurt.

At least 2Real is a huge jackass.
- Mordecai

Agreed.

Agreed.
- jmatchett383

Id take him over the clown any day

Excluding Provorov, trade whatever it takes to get McDavid. Could they do it?

Simmonds
Couturier
Ghost
Myers
Sanheim
2 1sts

Id take him over the clown any day
- Mordecai

I'd also takes cancer over AIDS.

Excluding Provorov, trade whatever it takes to get McDavid. Could they do it?

Simmonds
Couturier
Ghost
Myers
Sanheim
2 1sts
- jmatchett383

No. They couldn't.

Excluding Provorov, trade whatever it takes to get McDavid. Could they do it?

Simmonds
Couturier
Ghost
Myers
Sanheim
2 1sts
- jmatchett383

This actually sets the Flyers back for years I believe and as such I wouldnt do it..

Yes McDavid is that good but no player is worth the value you listed.

Very valid point regarding Marchand. You could probably add quite a list of players who have had better seasons than those two. They don't have to be Crosby and Malkin. Just be a lot better!
I don't think it is unfair for a fan base to want more from their top players . Thats what they are paid for.
- 3flyerkids

Well I guess Marchand is a bad guy to compare Giroux to. Since they aren't similar in age or size or anything. When Marchand signed his deal I remember reading in this forum how people were saying his contract was going to be an albatross.

so you feel they shouldn't have given Giroux the contract when they did? you would have traded him when he was at the top of his game or let him walk? you foresaw his play dropping off like it has this year? he obviously has to be better and obviously we are all hoping it was his hip and he bounces back but I can't fault the organization AT ALL for signing him when they did.

as far as Bob goes, yeah it sucks. I loved Bob. I blame Snider and Lavy for what happened there but its done. Hopefully one of Stolarz, hart, Sandstrom, etc etc end up being the goalie of the future. I refuse to sit and whine about it every damn day. Guess what, organizations make good and bad trades. if Stolaz and Leier don't turn into anything then yeah it was a terrible trade. Do you ever point out the good moves? ever? Seriously I don't know why you watch anymore? you obviously find no enjoyment from them
- nastyflyergirl

I expect them to produce to the level of what their contracts are paying them.

Simply, go (frank) off.
- jmatchett383

boo hoo...

Excluding Provorov, trade whatever it takes to get McDavid. Could they do it?

Simmonds
Couturier
Ghost
Myers
Sanheim
2 1sts
- jmatchett383

Maybe we could get Manning to pick him up at the airport?

I expect them to produce to the level of what their contracts are paying them.
- PLindbergh31

no kidding. that wasn't even the point. the point was I understand management signing them for what they did when they did.