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landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
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Mar 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Good first period....same old problems....still can't (frank)in score.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
Wow this is like watching paint dry. Between the constant buy season tickets for next year plugs and the incredible quotes from players talking about a scenario where the Flyers can make the playoffs I'm not really sure what reality is anymore.

The Flyers have been out of it for 2 weeks now.

Defensive prospects and potential aside, until the Flyers sign a top flight offensive NHL superstar, the Flyers will lose season ticket holders and not really be in the mix as an elite team.

Examples of an NHL superstar: Crosby, McDavid, Malkin, Seguin, Kucherov, P. Kane, Tarasenko, Ovechkin, Matthews, Tavares.

Unfortunately with the salary cap most of these players are unattainable until FA status. Multi-player blockbuster deals are few and far between.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
Great we're back to Holmgren. He really has a lot to do with where Weise is playing in the current line up.
- Baxter27

Could you imagine what he'd say about bob being a liability with a 7.5 million cap hit because he's injury prone or that he's great in the regular season but folds like a cheap suit during the playoffs. He flat out blew when they played the Pens a few years back
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
Great we're back to Holmgren. He really has a lot to do with where Weise is playing in the current line up.
- Baxter27

Up next we'll be ripping Bob McCammon for calling the Rangers smurfs
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
Good first period....same old problems....still can't (frank)in score.
- landros 2

Can't score? Howabout can't get quality chances to score, let alone sustained offensive zone pressure.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Philadelphia Fans need to female dog about something...
- aightwebang17


Most accurate and profound thing I have ever read here.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
Explain Zhitnik for Coburn, signing Briere, acquiring Biron, taking the worst team in the league to the Conference final one year later and the Cup finals 2 years after that, turning Richards into Simmonds and Schenn. Did he make mistakes? Of course, all GMs do. Was he the greatest GM of all time? No, but he was far from the worst.

Try a little honest perspective once in a while, you just might find it refreshing.

- BiggE



When you swing for so many deals .....some will be home runs and some will be strikes. I wonder if Hextall is a little gun shy....it's not like his signings, trades and decisions have worked very well.....hopefully his drafting record makes up for it.
landros 2
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Mar 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
Can't score? Howabout can't get quality chances to score, let alone sustained offensive zone pressure.
- Pixote Andolini


I'm a glass half full type of guy I guess....lol
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
Explain Zhitnik for Coburn, signing Briere, acquiring Biron, taking the worst team in the league to the Conference final one year later and the Cup finals 2 years after that, turning Richards into Simmonds and Schenn. Did he make mistakes? Of course, all GMs do. Was he the greatest GM of all time? No, but he was far from the worst.

Try a little honest perspective once in a while, you just might find it refreshing.

- BiggE


At what point do you think either 2Real or Plind ever want honest or balanced ?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Most accurate and profound thing I have ever read here.
- opeth_pa

Sure the negative perspective and constant complaining about Philadelphia sports teams is a thing. It's more relatable (in my opinion) to the Eagles and Phillies though. For as long as I can remember the Flyers usually field a solid team with character, work ethic mixed with high-end skill players. Even in losing seasons the Flyers seemed to put a product on the ice that was entertaining and exciting hockey.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Dude they are not in this draft!!!
Name the player that resembles a generational talent like any of those guys from 9-13 this year.

To be clear, we in top 3 keep it. anywhere else package it for 2018 player that fits need.

So tell me mr gm wizard who is that player in the draft 9-13 who will play next year!!!

- Konalover

anyone can be a great player look at joe pavelski taken in the 7th round the higher you draft the better change you have though
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lol Morganti re: McDonald "Oh what do I do with this hand grenade?"
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Sure the negative perspective and constant complaining about Philadelphia sports teams is a thing. It's more relatable (in my opinion) to the Eagles and Phillies though. For as long as I can remember the Flyers usually field a solid team with character, work ethic mixed with high-end skill players. Even in losing seasons the Flyers seemed to put a product on the ice that was entertaining and exciting hockey.
- Pixote Andolini



Which has lead to 0 cup wins in over 30 years.
That approach doesnt work and Hexy is trying to rebuild through the draft.
Im okay with trying another approach given that they havent won squat with the old flyers approach.
landros 2
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Mar 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Sure the negative perspective and constant complaining about Philadelphia sports teams is a thing. It's more relatable (in my opinion) to the Eagles and Phillies though. For as long as I can remember the Flyers usually field a solid team with character, work ethic mixed with high-end skill players. Even in losing seasons the Flyers seemed to put a product on the ice that was entertaining and exciting hockey.
- Pixote Andolini


Theses ain't your dads Flyers....there was always a "Flyers" identity....it's gone.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
Theses ain't your dads Flyers....there was always a "Flyers" identity....it's gone.
- landros 2



Because that approach is gone from the game...
You know that..
landros 2
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Mar 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
anyone can be a great player look at joe pavelski taken in the 7th round the higher you draft the better change you have though
- 2Real



Pavelski is no Giroux.....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
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Mar 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Pavelski is no Giroux.....
- landros 2

you're right he's better
landros 2
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Mar 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Because that approach is gone from the game...
You know that..

- opeth_pa


Playing tough physical hockey is gone ? Not from good teams it's not. You don't have to fight to play a physical game.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
Up next we'll be ripping Bob McCammon for calling the Rangers smurfs
- BiggE

I would like to do a comparison of C Dave Poulin vs C Claude "could be hurt" Giroux...
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
Explain Zhitnik for Coburn, signing Briere, acquiring Biron, taking the worst team in the league to the Conference final one year later and the Cup finals 2 years after that, turning Richards into Simmonds and Schenn. Did he make mistakes? Of course, all GMs do. Was he the greatest GM of all time? No, but he was far from the worst.

Try a little honest perspective once in a while, you just might find it refreshing.

- BiggE

One thing about Homer is that he had balls. He didn't win every trade but he generally had a good pulse on the team and knew when changes had to be made.
I will interested to see what Hextall comes up with this off season. You know Homer would do something
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
anyone can be a great player look at joe pavelski taken in the 7th round the higher you draft the better change you have though
- 2Real

Wow you are ponderous....Answer this question then who is the Joe P we draft 9-12 which was my original post...

Do you not remember your stupidity from post to post!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
At what point do you think either 2Real or Plind ever want honest or balanced ?
- opeth_pa

Half past never?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
neuvirth has been amazing what a goalie
2Real
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Mar 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
Wow you are ponderous....Answer this question then who is the Joe P we draft 9-12 which was my original post...

Do you not remember your stupidity from post to post!!

- Konalover

no one which is why you lose games to get in the top 5
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 25 @ 3:13 PM ET
One thing about Homer is that he had balls. He didn't win every trade but he generally had a good pulse on the team and knew when changes had to be made.
I will interested to see what Hextall comes up with this off season. You know Homer would do something

- 3flyerkids

It really is a different philosophy. Hextall, it seems to me, believes that you first build a solid base through the draft and then you make deals to fill holes and perhaps a major FA signing to fill that one key need you think will get you over the top.

Time will tell if his method will be successful, but I doubt any major trades or signings happen this offseason. I think that is still at least another year away. However, I do expect at least one new face in goal next year and 2 or 3 rookies on the team when the season starts. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the assistant coaches are replaced after this season
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