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Chatfield is a 20 year old overage player and shall recieve no praise from board members.

Period.
- Pres.cup

Point of order received and passed.
He shall hence forth be known as a bust now and forever.
#WasteOfContract.

Point of order received and passed.
He shall hence forth be known as a bust now and forever.
#WasteOfContract.
- Whiskey-Tango

#WasteOfContract I love it. We should use that one more.

#WasteOfContract I love it. We should use that one more.
- Pres.cup

Ohhh I'm betting we will

The difference is you're naming the exceptions to the rule and I literally named every Dman ppl posted in response to my question.

... and we'll agree to disagree on whether or not there are elite skillsets available in this draft. That really depends on your definition of "elite skillset" which I'm guessing is "immediate contributor, generational talent". My definition isn't that exclusive.
- DrChristianTroy

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I'll disagree to agree to disagree and due to the rules of lingustics quite possibly that means that I agree..... as spoken earlier I'm ten woodpiles deep so bear with me as my confusion confounds my coddled cerebral cortex and curdled ones thoughts creating confusion, compounded by killer narcotics in keeping my status as a gulf islander.

Now that that is done and said I'm confused myself with what I was going to say, I would imagine it was profoundly deep and either mocked your foolish beliefs in believing your truths or it was to commend you on your upright stance in standing up to those folks foolish enough to disagree with your genius.

I'd hazard that I must play my own devils advocate after I razz your beliefs, for they are foolish.

Your silly ill founded feeling that elite talent runs deep in this draft is but the shuddering of a fast food fanatics bowels. All noise and fearsome sounds.... but no substance, merely watery broth, trickling ghoulishly, beneath the flesh. You know in your heart that elite talents are those who may attain top line and pairing status, the Sedins come to mind, not generational talents, but borderline HHOFers who are/were top players in the league for several years during their career. That my silly doctor is what an elite player is, and everyone else is right too your wrong, elite talent does not exist in this draft.

Perhaps I'm wrong unlikely though it would be, there is however a first time for anything, so confounded by my own doubts, I must point out that in the interest of eternal optimism any player could become great, nay, elite, nay generational. In fact quantum physics dictates that all the players in this draft are potentially generation players. A whole generation of generational players in fact who possibly could break all the records of record and dominate as no generation has dominated any game before. I say to you good sir, well done in observing this mathematical fact, I salute you for the genius that you are. I must say, the chance that the Canucks draft 5 or 6 elite players is greater than the chance of the Canucks making the playoffs. Of this I am mathematically certain.

Rattle your sabers and spill your own guts, fellow buzzers.... or should I say buzzards, circle around the corpse of this season and pick the rotting flesh from its bones. Prepare yourself to eat its young, the players of tomorrow shall be labeled busts right now and for future reference as Whiskey-Tango pointed out, they are but wastes of roster spots.

Point of order received and passed.
He shall hence forth be known as a bust now and forever.
#WasteOfContract.
- Whiskey-Tango

They passed a law yesterday against anti-islam sentiment. We are Canadian, we are the mellowest, accepting people around......we have manners and know to be good to our neighbour. But if I want to make a youtube video, write a blog or do stand up comedy (+ a zillion and one other things) anti islam, you can be charged, (could be fines, could be jail time).

I don't like jerks, but everyone has the right to be one.

Like Voltaire said "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"
- WelfareWerewolf

It's actually not a law. Just a motion. You csnt be charged, fined etc for it. It just stats the position of said government

Pavel Bure greatest draft steal of all time.
- Nuck4U

I guess in a way that was our equivalent to #1oa pick

Page 19.

I'll disagree to agree to disagree and due to the rules of lingustics quite possibly that means that I agree..... as spoken earlier I'm ten woodpiles deep so bear with me as my confusion confounds my coddled cerebral cortex and curdled ones thoughts creating confusion, compounded by killer narcotics in keeping my status as a gulf islander.

Now that that is done and said I'm confused myself with what I was going to say, I would imagine it was profoundly deep and either mocked your foolish beliefs in believing your truths or it was to commend you on your upright stance in standing up to those folks foolish enough to disagree with your genius.

I'd hazard that I must play my own devils advocate after I razz your beliefs, for they are foolish.

Your silly ill founded feeling that elite talent runs deep in this draft is but the shuddering of a fast food fanatics bowels. All noise and fearsome sounds.... but no substance, merely watery broth, trickling ghoulishly, beneath the flesh. You know in your heart that elite talents are those who may attain top line and pairing status, the Sedins come to mind, not generational talents, but borderline HHOFers who are/were top players in the league for several years during their career. That my silly doctor is what an elite player is, and everyone else is right too your wrong, elite talent does not exist in this draft.

Perhaps I'm wrong unlikely though it would be, there is however a first time for anything, so confounded by my own doubts, I must point out that in the interest of eternal optimism any player could become great, nay, elite, nay generational. In fact quantum physics dictates that all the players in this draft are potentially generation players. A whole generation of generational players in fact who possibly could break all the records of record and dominate as no generation has dominated any game before. I say to you good sir, well done in observing this mathematical fact, I salute you for the genius that you are. I must say, the chance that the Canucks draft 5 or 6 elite players is greater than the chance of the Canucks making the playoffs. Of this I am mathematically certain.

Rattle your sabers and spill your own guts, fellow buzzers.... or should I say buzzards, circle around the corpse of this season and pick the rotting flesh from its bones. Prepare yourself to eat its young, the players of tomorrow shall be labeled busts right now and for future reference as Whiskey-Tango pointed out, they are but wastes of roster spots.
- Pres.cup

When did I say this?

Page 19.

I'll disagree to agree to disagree and due to the rules of lingustics quite possibly that means that I agree..... as spoken earlier I'm ten woodpiles deep so bear with me as my confusion confounds my coddled cerebral cortex and curdled ones thoughts creating confusion, compounded by killer narcotics in keeping my status as a gulf islander.

Now that that is done and said I'm confused myself with what I was going to say, I would imagine it was profoundly deep and either mocked your foolish beliefs in believing your truths or it was to commend you on your upright stance in standing up to those folks foolish enough to disagree with your genius.

I'd hazard that I must play my own devils advocate after I razz your beliefs, for they are foolish.

Your silly ill founded feeling that elite talent exists in this draft is but the shuddering of a fast food fanatics bowels. All noise and fearsome sounds.... but no substance, merely watery broth, trickling ghoulishly, beneath the flesh. You know in your heart that elite talents are those who may attain top line and pairing status, the Sedins come to mind, not generational talents, but borderline HHOFers who are/were top players in the league for several years during their career. That my silly doctor is what an elite player is, and everyone else is right too your wrong, elite talent does not exist in this draft.

Perhaps I'm wrong unlikely though it would be, there is however a first time for anything, so confounded by my own doubts, I must point out that in the interest of eternal optimism any player could become great, nay, elite, nay generational. In fact quantum physics dictates that all the players in this draft are potentially generation players. A whole generation of generational players in fact who possibly could break all the records of record and dominate as no generation has dominated any game before. I say to you good sir, well done in observing this mathematical fact, I salute you for the genius that you are. I must say, the chance that the Canucks draft 5 or 6 elite players is greater than the chance of the Canucks making the playoffs. Of this I am mathematically certain.

Rattle your sabers and spill your own guts, fellow buzzers.... or should I say buzzards, circle around the corpse of this season and pick the rotting flesh from its bones. Prepare yourself to eat its young, the players of tomorrow shall be labeled busts right now and for future reference as Whiskey-Tango pointed out, they are but wastes of roster spots.
- Pres.cup

When did I say this?
- DrChristianTroy

Sure pick the one exaggerated detail located in my short text

I fixed it... ... in my quote

The internet is buzzing over BB. Until he is signed and plays there will be rampant speculation.

For example, there is nutty talk ranging from whether he comes here to if he's good enough to play in the NHL. JB and his drafting needs some more credibility for Nuck fans it seems from all this noise out there. So his playing and showing off elite talent would go a long way toward that. At least that seems what the buzz is all about.

So anyone got any insider nibbles on what's going on with BB and Nucks?!?

Sure pick the one exaggerated detail located in my short text

I fixed it... ... in my quote
- Pres.cup

Actually, I talk about elite skillsets - contextually, from a drafting & development perspective. Elite draft year skillsets can turn into elite NHL talent, but there are a sh!tload of variables & obstacles to overcome on the journey to realizing that potential. I happen to like a few players not named Patrick or Hischier in this draft, and it looks like we're going to have a really good shot at drafting one of them.

I'll just drop it again once I tell you that Josi was also a 2nd rounder, Karlsson was the 8th Dman drafted in 2008 and Burns was a mother(frank)ing forward when he was drafted. Drafting Dmen in the top 10 is a waste of time. You NEED to go after those elite skillsets when you can.
- DrChristianTroy

Not always. There are times when the guys are legit top players in the draft.

Recently there's Ekblad and Jones. In Jones's case I think the forward vs D draft philosophy worked against clubs that could have used a Jones.

Actually, I talk about elite skillsets - contextually, from a drafting & development perspective. Elite draft year skillsets can turn into elite NHL talent, but there are a sh!tload of variables & obstacles to overcome on the journey to realizing that potential. I happen to like a few players not named Patrick or Hischier in this draft, and it looks like we're going to have a really good shot at drafting one of them.
- DrChristianTroy

I watched Vilardi last night he was a nice player . He didn't dominate.

There is no doubt in my mind we will get a good player that will add to the team. There is no player that I have seen this year that has controlled games other than Hischier.

I have only seen him play in the world juniors and the prospect game , so I don't have a good read on him or anyone else. All I know is there is not one player that I have seen this year that I said that is exactly who Canucks need so that is why I go to the Best all around Dman.

https://twitter.com/RobTh...status/845541371930816512

There's not a single position on the Canucks, nor organizationally where you can say "they're set". Therefore, BPA when it comes to the draft.

There's not a single position on the Canucks, nor organizationally where you can say "they're set". Therefore, BPA when it comes to the draft.
- golfingsince

I don't have any connection to Buttons ,or think he is a a guru but he also made a point yesterday on the 1040 . He said top 3 draft BPA and in some drafts top 5 . He said this is not that draft to do it. After that teams can draft for need.

He pointed out that Canucks need a D man and that Benning was interested in a puck moving D and will probably take Makar or Liljegren.

He then also started talking about trading Hutton immediately after it. A few people like Tomlinson Abbott Patterson Ferarro talked that Hutton could be the man moved. Some of them have even said they think OJ will play on the Canucks next year and replace Hutton.

That is similar to how I have envisioned the offseason going down. I was hoping they would draft Foote and trade a Dman.


As far as OJ i won't speculate on whether he plays here or not next year.

Adam Cracknell hatrick last night.

There's not a single position on the Canucks, nor organizationally where you can say "they're set". Therefore, BPA when it comes to the draft.
- golfingsince

- Marwood

Last year you had a good idea who the top 3 were even though Columbus surprised everyone and took PLD.

Out of last years draft Tkachuk Matthews Laine Chychrun play in the NHL full time . They were all head and shoulders above this years class.

This year Patrick and Hischier lead the way as the top 2 and there is a lot of concern about Nico H production dropping off the earth. Others question Patrick's health and skating.

There is not one player that will step in this year and be an impact player. It will take years.

Most draft sites can not decide who are the top 10 and people in here can not decide who is the best 10 .

If no one knows who the best 10 are how do you take the BPA?

https://twitter.com/RobTheHockeyGuy/status/845541371930816512
- VANTEL

Poor bastard, WD new whipping boy. Boucher moves up one spot now to B1tch #1

Poor bastard, WD new whipping boy. Boucher moves up one spot now to B1tch #1
- VanHockeyGuy

I would be surprised if Boucher was anything more than #13 next year .

I don't have any connection to Buttons ,or think he is a a guru but he also made a point yesterday on the 1040 . He said top 3 draft BPA and in some drafts top 5 . He said this is not that draft to do it. After that teams can draft for need.

He pointed out that Canucks need a D man and that Benning was interested in a puck moving D and will probably take Makar or Liljegren.

He then also started talking about trading Hutton immediately after it. A few people like Tomlinson Abbott Patterson Ferarro talked that Hutton could be the man moved. Some of them have even said they think OJ will play on the Canucks next year and replace Hutton.

That is similar to how I have envisioned the offseason going down. I was hoping they would draft Foote and trade a Dman.


As far as OJ i won't speculate on whether he plays here or not next year.
- VANTEL

Makar rankings, all over the map...

THW Alternate: 30th (January)
Future Considerations: 18th (Winter)
ISS: 13th (February)
Bob McKenzie: 12th (Mid-season)
Craig Button: 13th (January)

I would be surprised if Boucher was anything more than #13 next year .
- VANTEL

He could still be a good one, wicked release.

He could still be a good one, wicked release.
- VanHockeyGuy

TBH I don't expect much of him. He was on waivers 3 times this year and was demoted to 4 th line duties on the Canucks. WD has called him out for not being in shape.

Hopefully BB quick release will replace Bouchers.

Actually, I talk about elite skillsets - contextually, from a drafting & development perspective. Elite draft year skillsets can turn into elite NHL talent, but there are a sh!tload of variables & obstacles to overcome on the journey to realizing that potential. I happen to like a few players not named Patrick or Hischier in this draft, and it looks like we're going to have a really good shot at drafting one of them.
- DrChristianTroy

So.... a player with elite speed but average shooting ability or an elite shot who dominates his peers but had trouble in his own end.

Sure I'll buy that and there are stoke decent players in this draft, just no one that's going to be an impact player for years.

I guess you could say that Wellwood had elite vision and saw the game well or that Boucher has an elite shot....... its just the odds of them developing the rest of their game enough to impact at a high level is suspect.

There are players that I like in this draft as well, but I see more Gudbransons and Weiss's than I do Kesslers or Heatleys and I don't see any Sedins or Kopitars

And to me to be called Elite you need a package of skillsets.

And I'm not saying that there arn't players that will play, just that it's a crappy draft to draft high in. Go BPA top 2 or 3 after that is a crap shot so draft need


I'll agree to disagree against my own better judgement