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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
He's pretty much 30 I think. Man, he's gonna age bad. We got lucky getting out of that contract (mostly)
- walshyleafsfan

He has 8 of their 54 pp goals (about 15%) and has 28 pp points.

The teams winning percentage has increased since he arrived.
Their PP has increased the past year.
He was pretty much their MVP the year they won the cup.

He's aged well so far for them.

He hasn't been bad for them in the past two years.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:31 PM ET
He's a third liner.
- Garnie

yes a 63pt third liner.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:32 PM ET


Let's not get too crazy. He has 63 points on that 3rd line (and yes, lots of PP of course), he won the Cup last year and might do it again this year, especially if Crosby keeps scoring while striking the fear of castration and finger removal into the rest of the league.

But yeah - 2/3 years from now, that contract might get pretty ugly for the Pens.

- 1979AD

As do most contracts come their 5 year when a player in his late 20's signs.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 24 @ 2:32 PM ET
Big picture, that's a fair way to look at it.

Unfortunately if Kessel loses a step or two and can't produce points anymore he's completely useless on the ice and to Pitt mgmt and fans are going to be cursing the contract every moment longer they're stuck with it instead of watching game video from the 2016 playoffs and drinking champagne.

- 1979AD


they could very well have 1-2 more cups between now and then.

sid and malkin have 3-4 prime years left anyways. might as well max out the cup winning years for them.

in 5-6 years pens will be in for a painful rebuild. but who cares, their future is now.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
they could very well have 1-2 more cups between now and then.

sid and malkin have 3-4 prime years left anyways. might as well max out the cup winning years for them.

in 5-6 years pens will be in for a painful rebuild. but who cares, their future is now.

- Tumbleweed


JUST LIKE THE HABS!

- Marc Bergevin

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
Sorry to be a snob there Lumsy but if I'd have my ruthers, it would be more like this




and this


- winsix


Well, yes. . But that might be tough to sneak into the office
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
Big picture, that's a fair way to look at it.

Unfortunately if Kessel loses a step or two and can't produce points anymore he's completely useless on the ice and to Pitt mgmt and fans are going to be cursing the contract every moment longer they're stuck with it instead of watching game video from the 2016 playoffs and drinking champagne.

- 1979AD

And non of that will matter....cause he was instrumental in winning them a cup and may help them win another.

Just like Kadri.....players can change and grow under the right coach and circumstances.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:36 PM ET
And non of that will matter....cause he was instrumental in winning them a cup and may help them win another.

Just like Kadri.....players can change and grow under the right coach and circumstances.

- Fakepartofme


Oh it will matter to the guy trying to put a contending team on the ice with a 6.8m anchor on the books.

Kessel has changed and grown? Please explain.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 24 @ 2:41 PM ET
Oh it will matter to the guy trying to put a contending team on the ice with a 6.8m anchor on the books.

Kessel has changed and grown? Please explain.

- 1979AD


You know how, as you get older, you get fatter, slower and you start hurting places for no reason.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Oh it will matter to the guy trying to put a contending team on the ice with a 6.8m anchor on the books.

Kessel has changed and grown? Please explain.

- 1979AD



Kessel has changed, he has less hair.. He has also grown around the middle. He has been bad man games this year, as I have watched many Pens games.. He has to pick it up for the playoffs for them to repeat. They need all firing on all cylinders to win.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
They won a cup.

I'm sure they're happy.

I'd take Kessel's contract right now if it meant I won the cup.

Hell I'd take Gomez back if it somehow meant we'd win.

- Scabeh

Oh.for sure. I'd have Pol Pot killing penalties if we'd won the Cup. Cup winning teams have immunity from criticism
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
You know how, as you get older, you get fatter, slower and you start hurting places for no reason.
- Scabeh


I get it, Scabeh, you're talking about me! I get it!
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
Kessel has changed, he has less hair.. He has also grown around the middle. He has been bad man games this year, as I have watched many Pens games.. He has to pick it up for the playoffs for them to repeat. They need all firing on all cylinders to win.
- bixll

He just needs to watch his breath and he'll be fine.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
He just needs to watch his breath and he'll be fine.
- gergeswillems




It's that bad eh?!
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
He just needs to watch his breath and he'll be fine.
- gergeswillems

And his insulin levels
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
He just needs to watch his breath and he'll be fine.
- gergeswillems



Knock a buzzard off a shiit wagon he could..
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 24 @ 2:48 PM ET


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
JUST LIKE THE HABS!

- Marc Bergevin


- Scabeh


If Price gets hot, and the team plays to win 1-0, then anything can happen.

See also: Devils, New Jersey, Brodeur
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 24 @ 2:51 PM ET
cabinferno it
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
Knock a buzzard off a shiit wagon he could..
- bixll

I always wondered what Phil did to stay in such amazing shape in the summer. #shiitwagon
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
I always wondered what Phil did to stay in such amazing shape in the summer. #shiitwagon
- gergeswillems



Hotdog cart,,,, shiit wagon,,, same thing.. well documented.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Oh it will matter to the guy trying to put a contending team on the ice with a 6.8m anchor on the books.

Kessel has changed and grown? Please explain.

- 1979AD

I said he can change.
The contract is what 5 more years?
They've got Malkin and Crosby for what 8 more years or so.
they may have one two years where he is not performing at his best.
This season he will end up with his 3rd highest point production of his career.
Any maybe finish a 9th year in a row with 25 plus goals (ya I know in the shortened season he had 20....but it would have easily been 25 plus).
Hardly and anchor.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
If Price gets hot, and the team plays to win 1-0, then anything can happen.

See also: Devils, New Jersey, Brodeur

- Aetherial


Yeah, pretty much gambling everything on Pacioretty to score 1 goal and Price to be godlike.

Could work...
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
I said he can change.
The contract is what 5 more years?
They've got Malkin and Crosby for what 8 more years or so.
they may have one two years where he is not performing at his best.
This season he will end up with his 3rd highest point production of his career.
Any maybe finish a 9th year in a row with 25 plus goals (ya I know in the shortened season he had 20....but it would have easily been 25 plus).
Hardly and anchor.

- Fakepartofme


This is his age 29 season. To think he would A) start his decline already or B) change his approach to, conditioning regiment, or way he plays the game moving forward is kind of silly.

Yep - 5 years after this. I predict the last 2, maybe 3 years are a disaster for Pitt's cap, but like we all know, they got a Cup already and maybe more, so it worked out for Pitt either way.

Fortunately the deal also worked out for the Leafs because they got that potentially brutal contract off the books, and Andersen/Kapanen/Rychel out of it.
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