Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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As does Schenn. It doesn't really matter, in the grand scheme of things, how goals get scored. As long as they get scored I don't really care. The problem is, when the PP completely dries up (as it does sometimes), those two don't really make a difference at even strength. - TobyFlenderson
In that respect Schenn is way more frustrating than Simmonds. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Paul Holmgren's Flyers were the Burke era I was referring to although he was a much better version of Brian Burke. - mayorofangrytown
Well, not all of NJ.
Just enough of New Jersey so I can get to the beach from the old Marlton circle in under 5 minutes. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I dont understand why people dont like that move. I wanna hear one person give me a valid negative to that trade. - jak521
It's not a bad trade; it's a good trade in terms of value. I just want to know what the actual point of it was from Hextall's perspective. There's a distinction. This is going to be another bubble team next year. Maybe they get in (they could and another quality center helps); maybe they don't. Metro is so tight and will be next year too probably. But we're still a good ways away from really competing, and that's if the brain trust corrects their mistakes.
Say Flip was acquired to be a stopgap if we trade someone, like Schenn or Simmonds, for young talent in the form of prospects/picks.....that makes sense. Say Flip was acquired to be sold high at next deadline and at much more than we got him for....that makes sense. But I don't think anyone else is traded, and I don't think he will be traded if they're again fighting for a wild card. So, what is the real point of this trade? No one can argue it wasn't a good trade in value, but what is his value to the Flyers? The trade makes them better. No doubt. 3C has been a hole. But it's a 1 year contract to make them a better bubble team. It's just another instance in this team trying to have its cake and eat it too with winning now and winning later, and I wish they'd make up their mind. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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It's not a bad trade; it's a good trade in terms of value. I just want to know what the actual point of it was. - Mononoke
To stop playing Schenn at center. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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In that respect Schenn is way more frustrating than Simmonds. - Scoob
Someone pointed out that Schenn and Simmonds have similar ES stats. I guess that doesn't surprise me. I've never been much of a Brayden Schenn fan, though. That's probably irrational. Or maybe because he came in with more expectations? |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Well, not all of NJ.
Just enough of New Jersey so I can get to the beach from the old Marlton circle in under 5 minutes. - johndewar
That would be interesting |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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To stop playing Schenn at center. - Feanor
That isn't at all what I meant if you bothered to read on. I never disputed making the trade. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I did read on. The answer is still the same. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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I may call it a dump but it's not bad enough that I want it sunk under the ocean. - dragonoffrost
Downingtown is a pretty little town. Very welcoming. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Downingtown is a pretty little town. Very welcoming. - mayorofangrytown
I'm not sure I want that hour commute to work even though I currently live an hour away from work. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I dont understand why people dont like that move. I wanna hear one person give me a valid negative to that trade. - jak521
It is really just a matter of opinion on A) how good you think Filppula is and B) how good you think the guy lose in the expansion draft is |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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It is really just a matter of opinion on A) how good you think Filppula is and B) how good you think the guy lose in the expansion draft is - YuenglingJagr
Filp is better than most of those who will be left available. I think Hextall thinks this also.
Right now I protect: G, Jake, Simmer, Schenn, Coots, Filp, Cousins, Ghost, Gudas, Manning. Stolarz. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Someone pointed out that Schenn and Simmonds have similar ES stats. I guess that doesn't surprise me. I've never been much of a Brayden Schenn fan, though. That's probably irrational. Or maybe because he came in with more expectations? - johndewar
They score at similar rates, but Simmonds makes it look cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L104LViQeIw |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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It is really just a matter of opinion on A) how good you think Filppula is and B) how good you think the guy lose in the expansion draft is - YuenglingJagr
It would be funny if they protect Raffl and Vegas takes Bellemare. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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I dont understand why people dont like that move. I wanna hear one person give me a valid negative to that trade. - jak521
in the 10 games since that trade Coots has 2-7-9 plus 8. in the other 46 games 9-8-17 minus 6. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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It would be funny if they protect Raffl and Vegas takes Bellemare. - Feanor
truthfully I wouldn't care if either are taken. that's not saying I don't like them, I just think they are replaceable |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Filp is better than most of those who will be left available. I think Hextall thinks this also.
Right now I protect: G, Jake, Simmer, Schenn, Coots, Filp, Cousins, Ghost, Gudas, Manning. Stolarz. - dragonoffrost
That isn't really what I was saying, but I should've been more clear. What I am getting at is there is a risk in using a protection slot in an expansion draft on a guy that won't be here in the near future |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Filp is better than most of those who will be left available. I think Hextall thinks this also.
Right now I protect: G, Jake, Simmer, Schenn, Coots, Filp, Cousins, Ghost, Gudas, Manning. Stolarz. - dragonoffrost
I've come around to the idea that it's pretty safe to leave Cousins and Laughton unprotected because Vegas can only take 10 RFAs. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Someone pointed out that Schenn and Simmonds have similar ES stats. I guess that doesn't surprise me. I've never been much of a Brayden Schenn fan, though. That's probably irrational. Or maybe because he came in with more expectations? - johndewar
Schenn is often invisible. Simmonds rarely is. |
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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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truthfully I wouldn't care if either are taken. that's not saying I don't like them, I just think they are replaceable - nastyflyergirl
I won't be really sad to see anyone that could potentially go in expansion get selected. Not enough guys have performed this season to really be all that concerned about them going elsewhere. |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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He's been a drag on possession since he joined the club. - SimmerDown17
He has been a drag on possession? That has nothing to do with the team?
Whats our record like since Christmas? What about or possession metrics? |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I've come around to the idea that it's pretty safe to leave Cousins and Laughton unprotected because Vegas can only take 10 RFAs. - Feanor
Is there a specific order Vegas has to go in, or can they make their picks from teams based on their own preference? |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Is there a specific order Vegas has to go in, or can they make their picks from teams based on their own preference? - Scoob
I dont know if it will be a live draft...I am assuming it'll just be some list that gets published |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I won't be really sad to see anyone that could potentially go in expansion get selected. Not enough guys have performed this season to really be all that concerned about them going elsewhere. - Baxter27
Ill be sad if Mason gets picked |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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He's been a drag on possession since he joined the club. - SimmerDown17
Was he a drag on possession in TB? |
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