j.boyd919
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Honestly I don't watch as closely as I should, these last few seasons have killed my concentration on hockey, I'm typically on my computer playing a game while I chromecast the hockey game to my TV. :D - stashu
Nerd.
(As I go home and play Rainbow Six...) |
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Buffalo fans don't want to hear it, but their defense corp. stinks
Umm...we kinda say that every night, so I don't get this.... - stashu
So... the 20 people on this site make up the entire fanbase? Thats a really small amount of fans. |
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Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 07.17.2015
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Don't feel like going back to old blog. The definition of MVP is most important to their team. It's not even loose. That's pretty cut and dry IMO.
per NHL.com
Hart Memorial Trophy
The Hart Memorial Trophy is an annual award given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association in all NHL cities at the end of the regular season.
Ted Lindsay Award
The Ted Lindsay Award (formerly Lester B. Pearson Award) is presented annually to the "most outstanding player" in the NHL as voted by fellow members of the National Hockey League Players' Association.
Personally I find the Ted Lindsay more prestigious, as it's voted by the players - j.boyd919
And again this isn't a fair thing considering just cuz Malkin is on the pens that doesn't make Crosby less valuable. Sid should just go to Colorado or Arizona and get MVP every single year. |
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Dmen's primary focus is to protect the front of the net, take away passing lanes, etc.
http://howtohockey.com/ho...e-roles-responsibilities/
^^how to hockey is solid. - j.boyd919
I keep looking at this... trying to find where you secretly drew a Richard.... I give up. Where is it? |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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And again this isn't a fair thing considering just cuz Malkin is on the pens that doesn't make Crosby less valuable. Sid should just go to Colorado or Arizona and get MVP every single year. - Zac_O
Uh... yeah it does.
2nd part... why? Isn't a Stanley cup more important to you than an MVP? I'm sure it is to Sid, and every other player in the NHL. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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I keep looking at this... trying to find where you secretly drew a Richard.... I give up. Where is it? - Guile
The tip is the back of the net. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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So... the 20 people on this site make up the entire fanbase? Thats a really small amount of fans. - Guile
You're right, all non-HB fans think the d-corps is Stanley Cup quality!! |
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martox
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort." Joined: 09.25.2014
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Uh... yeah it does.
2nd part... why? Isn't a Stanley cup more important to you than an MVP? I'm sure it is to Sid, and every other player in the NHL. - j.boyd919
honestly if the pens win the president trophy sid should win the hart... |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Nerd.
(As I go home and play Rainbow Six...) - j.boyd919
I wear that title...my games are quite nerdy. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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honestly if the pens win the president trophy sid should win the hart... - martox
What if Geno goes on a 12 point tear in the last 5 games of the season, jumps Sid in point totals, should he win the hart? |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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I wear that title...my games are quite nerdy. - stashu
Well I really hope your avatar is actually you then. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Well I really hope your avatar is actually you then. - j.boyd919
If only I was that cool!! |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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honestly if the pens win the president trophy sid should win the hart... - martox
What player is more valuable to THEIR team... an elite center on a team with one elite center or an elite center on a team with 2 elite centers? If the Pens lost Sid, they could still make playoffs and even make a deep run possibly (see Tampa last year, sans Stamkos). Edmonton without McDavid, highly doubtful they make the playoffs. |
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TaxMan22
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: North of the Mason Dixon Line, PA Joined: 07.02.2012
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Congrats, J.Boyd919 on last weeks victory! Good luck this week!!! |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Congrats, J.Boyd919 on last weeks victory! Good luck this week!!! - TaxMan22
Hahaha thanks man. It came down to the wire. Thank god for Sid's hatty. This week is gonna be rough. Down 15 after the first day. I wasn't expecting Benn and Seguin to poop the bed. |
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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 04.29.2016
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What player is more valuable to THEIR team... an elite center on a team with one elite center or an elite center on a team with 2 elite centers? If the Pens lost Sid, they could still make playoffs and even make a deep run possibly (see Tampa last year, sans Stamkos). Edmonton without McDavid, highly doubtful they make the playoffs. - j.boyd919
Pens without Sid could make the playoffs but I don't envision a deep run. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Pens without Sid could make the playoffs but I don't envision a deep run. - DeflatedPucks
Yeah, neither did Tampa last year without Stammer lol |
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Why don't Dumo and Maatta count?
They count, and I counted them. Neither is stands as a case of a pure success -- a flawless player. So, they count. But are two specks in a sand pile of failure.
I think it has more to do with the player than development. Those failures (Morrow, Harrington, possibly Pouliot, etc) have proven they didn't deserve their draft position. You think the Penguins failed these guys? Whey didn't they bloom once they were free of the Penguins system?
Perhaps these players failed to make their mark because the Pens failed them during the crucial moments on their developmental path. Pouliot has regressed since he entered the Pens system. Bylsma, Johnson and crew made a mess out of Despres. Player development and rational asset usage is part of the job description for coaches at every level of the organization. The Pens during the Crosby era have had two few successes, and two came early on: Gologoski and Letang. The Pens even jerked around the Norris Trophy candidate, Kris Letang. In recent years they managed to turn Doumolin and Matta into serviceable journeymen defensemen.
That's just great..... |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Speaking of RistLOLainen, watch him stand next to Tatar who scores a goal after being set up by Green last night. See what you guys are missing out on.
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all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.14.2014
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If only I was that cool!! - stashu Loved that show. Moss was the greatest nerd ever!
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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They count, and I counted them. Neither is stands as a case of a pure success -- a flawless player. So, they count. But are two specks in a sand pile of failure.
Perhaps these players failed to make their mark because the Pens failed them during the crucial moments on their developmental path. Pouliot has regressed since he entered the Pens system. Bylsma, Johnson and crew made a mess out of Despres. Player development and rational asset usage is part of the job description for coaches at every level of the organization. The Pens during the Crosby era have had two few successes, and two came early on: Gologoski and Letang. The Pens even jerked around the Norris Trophy candidate, Kris Letang. In recent years they managed to turn Doumolin and Matta into serviceable journeymen defensemen.
That's just great..... - szielinski
Journeymen...? You do realize that having 3 of your 6 defenseman on your roster coming via draft/in-house development.. is pretty solid right? Take a look around the league and find me a team where their whole defensive corp was drafted homegrown.
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Loved that show. Moss was the greatest nerd ever! - all-pgh
what show is that from? lol |
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SRam19
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain Joined: 02.12.2015
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If only I was that cool!! - stashu
Aren't you still looking for your mug? |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Journeymen...? You do realize that having 3 of your 6 defenseman on your roster coming via draft/in-house development.. is pretty solid right? Take a look around the league and find me a team where their whole defensive corp was drafted homegrown. - j.boyd919
DET basically |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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DET basically - Feds91Stammer
And how's that goin for ya? |
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