He is Canucks best face off guy and best PK guy , that adds TOI. Just because he is on the PP doesn't mean he is getting the puck.

He is a veteran player that will add leadership and stability to this team as they transition out of the Sedin years.

I don't get the hate from Nucker and Lefty when he does everything the team asks and still puts up decent numbers.
- VANTEL

I just bust his balls because he's one of the main reasons the Canucks are terrible 5 on 5 and give up 200 goals a year.

He is Canucks best face off guy and best PK guy , that adds TOI. Just because he is on the PP doesn't mean he is getting the puck.

He is a veteran player that will add leadership and stability to this team as they transition out of the Sedin years.

I don't get the hate from Nucker and Lefty when he does everything the team asks and still puts up decent numbers.
- VANTEL

It's the decent numbers part without qualifying how much opportunity he gets.

I don't blame players for how a coach uses them, so it's not on Sutter but WD from day 1 has been using him as a trigger man and scorer rather than a shutdown guy, which is what he has been most his career. Scores some good goals with his speed and can hold his own with most the league.

It's funny that both Sutter and Staal were stuck behind two centres in Crosby and Malkin, yet that's the case whichever team they go to.
- Scooby_Doo

Not exactly true.

Sutter played a good part with the Sedins. WD has a thing about handing top line minutes to the twins even if they are not the best

Not exactly true.

Sutter played a good part with the Sedins. WD has a thing about handing top line minutes to the twins even if they are not the best
- VANTEL

He wasn't playing centre.

I just bust his balls because he's one of the main reasons the Canucks are terrible 5 on 5 and give up 200 goals a year.
- LeftCoaster

He wasn't playing centre.
- Scooby_Doo

Yes he was . He took RH face offs and did the deep man back in the defensive zones.

- VANTEL

There's tons upon tons of data on Canucks Army on this, here's a quote:

"And before you go blaming this on age related decline, consider that Brandon Sutter is the Canucks’ single worst player by even-strength shot-attempt metrics currently on the roster, and that’s including the over 170 minutes he’s played with Henrik and Daniel at 5-on-5."

Who was Canucks last third line center that had 15 goals thirty points?
- VANTEL

Wellwood had 18G 27pts in 72 games

Mine were all burned in the riots
- LeftCoaster

Emergency ass wipe after the Marchand speed bag incident

Love the Tkachuck hit on Doughty. Kings have been bullies and dirty for years . Nice to see payback.


You bleeding hearts have been Sedinned too long with the turn he other cheek.Man up.
- VANTEL

Absolutely!

No, he played behind Henrik and Brendan Morrison. Actually so did Linden late in his career.

Henrik
Morrison
Linden/Kesler
- LeftCoaster

In those years Kesler scores 10 and 6 goals

Emergency ass wipe after the Marchand speed bag incident
- Bullfrog77

I just bust his balls because he's one of the main reasons the Canucks are terrible 5 on 5 and give up 200 goals a year.
- LeftCoaster

The whole roster is terrible 5v5 though. We have 3 players not including Dorsett who have been able tread water 5v5.

Gaunce, Eriksson and Granlund.

Our "revamped" defense is mostly to blame IMO for goals against issues. There is a lot of work still to be done there. Thankfully many of that group is still learning.

There's tons upon tons of data on Canucks Army on this, here's a quote:

"And before you go blaming this on age related decline, consider that Brandon Sutter is the Canucks’ single worst player by even-strength shot-attempt metrics currently on the roster, and that’s including the over 170 minutes he’s played with Henrik and Daniel at 5-on-5."


- LeftCoaster

Canucks army Botch Jeff Patterson a bunch of dinks that look for negatives. They are the Dave Pratt of Bloggers

Canucks army Botch Jeff Patterson a bunch of dinks that look for negatives. They are the Dave Pratt of Bloggers
- VANTEL

Canucks army Botch Jeff Patterson a bunch of dinks that look for negatives. They are the Dave Pratt of Bloggers
- VANTEL

They're just reporting the data, it's not their personal opinion, the numbers say he's not very good despite his 29 points.

We can move on, we've been down this road before. I respect your opinion, I just don't share it.

No I like Sutter fine as a 3C, especially for a team trying to stay competitive. I think he was an upgrade on Bonino for what we needed, which was speed and FO's.

It would of been a great 1 for 1 trade....
- belcherbd

It was anaheims second for vancouvers third that we lost for i think pedan. Not a huge gap for the picks, the other piece was a dman that has been on waivers twice since, i forget his name, so it wasnt to much of an overpayment, but 1 for 1 would of been sweet

Canucks army Botch Jeff Patterson a bunch of dinks that look for negatives. They are the Dave Pratt of Bloggers
- VANTEL

I like JPat, and some of the CA guys. It sucks but the negative outlook has been much more realistic than the positives.

Botch is pure garbage.

It was anaheims second for vancouvers third that we lost for i think pedan. Not a huge gap for the picks, the other piece was a dman that has been on waivers twice since, i forget his name, so it wasnt to much of an overpayment, but 1 for 1 would of been sweet
- phyllee

Pedan came from NYI

I like JPat, and some of the CA guys. It sucks but the negative outlook has been much more realistic than the positives.

Botch is pure garbage.
- belcherbd

I like Jpat too but he does go looking for garbage .I remember Canucks had points in 6 games and he was printing stuff like Daniel has 3 points in 18 games

Pedan came from NYI
- Nighthawk

I thought he came from Russia?

Sven Bo Granlund
Daniel Hank Goldy
LE Sutter BB
Cram Gaunce Boucher
Chaput/DD

Edler Stecher
Hutton Tanev
Tree EG
OJ 9 game trial
- Nighthawk

LE and BB need a puck moving center. Sutter has value but he doesn't distribute the puck very well. He would neutralize LE and BB.

It's funny that both Sutter and Staal were stuck behind two centres in Crosby and Malkin, yet that's the case whichever team they go to.
- Scooby_Doo

ya but Sutter is one of the best 3c's in the game as his point production on a full season is to top of what you expect from a 3c. I am glad we have him to insulate kids by taking tougher defensive match-ups. a full season with LE and BB could help with production. BB could still be a bust, but i like to think he will be good for 15+g and 35+pts next season playing with those two.

No I like Sutter fine as a 3C, especially for a team trying to stay competitive. I think he was an upgrade on Bonino for what we needed, which was speed and FO's.

It would of been a great 1 for 1 trade....
- belcherbd

It was a swap of a 2nd and 3rd round pick...who the frank cares?

Not exactly true.

Sutter played a good part with the Sedins. WD has a thing about handing top line minutes to the twins even if they are not the best
- VANTEL

Sutter should play with the Sedins again, on a 3rd line. I know this is crazy but Gaunce or Chaput should center LE and BB