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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 20 @ 7:48 PM ET
It's not upsetting me? I just said it would of been a great trade 1 for 1... I just realized it was Gudbranson who fetched our 2nd last year and not Bonino....

I do prefer Sutter over Bonino but that doesn't mean he is better or should of held more value considering contracts and the cap trouble Pit was in.

- belcherbd

Perhaps...Benning goes after the guys he wants. Usually the trades workout well. I'd hate to see a trade not happen because of something minor like a 10 pick swap in the draft. Sutter is a better fit for us than Bonino. A large part is because he is fast and better defensively. We have a very slow team and Bonino was a huge culprit.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Mar 20 @ 7:49 PM ET
Does anyone know what the stat would be to measure who is better at making their line mates better......Sutter vs RNH
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 7:53 PM ET
Does anyone know what the stat would be to measure who is better at making their line mates better......Sutter vs RNH
- Kaynine



RNH 15 G 14 A Kassian and Pulliot

Sutter 15G 14 A Cramarossa Magna
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 20 @ 7:57 PM ET
RNH 15 G 14 A Kassian and Pulliot

Sutter 15G 14 A Cramarossa Magna

- VANTEL


I am not going to debate who is better but we certainly don't need RNH. No franking thanks
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Mar 20 @ 7:58 PM ET
RNH 15 G 14 A Kassian and Pulliot

Sutter 15G 14 A Cramarossa Magna

- VANTEL


They both sure have some quality line mates
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 7:58 PM ET
I am not going to debate who is better but we certainly don't need RNH. No franking thanks
- CanuckDon



Yup just taking on more money for same results
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
RNH 15 G 14 A Kassian and Pulliot

Sutter 15G 14 A Cramarossa Magna

- VANTEL

Actually it's Granlund the most with Megna/Eriksson pretty much tied for 2nd. Plus the Sedins on PP1


Not a fan of RNH at his cap hit though
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
RNH 15 G 14 A Kassian and Pulliot

Sutter 15G 14 A Cramarossa Magna

- VANTEL


Sutter most common linemates are Eriksson and Granlund followed by Sedins.....

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
Actually it's Granlund the most with Megna/Eriksson pretty much tied for 2nd. Plus the Sedins on PP1


Not a fan of RNH at his cap hit though

- Nucker101



I see you view playing with the Sedins as a positive


He did fine with Granlund
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Mar 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
Actually it's Granlund the most with Megna/Eriksson pretty much tied for 2nd. Plus the Sedins on PP1


Not a fan of RNH at his cap hit though

- Nucker101


With the make up of the forwards we have we do need a center that's better at moving the puck. Especially on our second line.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
With the make up of the forwards we have we do need a center that's better at moving the puck. Especially on our second line.
- Kaynine



Wouldn't that be the job of the guy making 7 mil?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
[quote=VANTEL]
fair point but PP1 time even on a poop unit will still lead to extra points
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:17 PM ET
Wouldn't that be the job of the guy making 7 mil?
- VANTEL

Long-term...this team really lacks a good playmaking centre.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:19 PM ET
fair point but PP1 time even on a poop unit will still lead to extra points
- Nucker101



Do you mean the PP unit that was 1 of 32 ?

The PP has stunk for years. It is a 2 man game and occasionally someone else gets to touch the puck
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:21 PM ET
Long-term...this team really lacks a good playmaking centre.
- Nucker101



I think this year or next Canuks will get an equal or better than Bo . I also think with the cap space we can pick up a decent center when Hank goes
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:22 PM ET
Do you mean the PP unit that was 1 of 32 ?

The PP has stunk for years. It is a 2 man game and occasionally someone else gets to touch the puck

- VANTEL


Even crappy units score goals though. Otherwise Sutter wouldn't have any PP points...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:23 PM ET
Even crappy units score goals though. Otherwise Sutter wouldn't have any PP points...
- Nucker101



You would think right


1 in 32
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
I think this year or next Canuks will get an equal or better than Bo . I also think with the cap space we can pick up a decent center when Hank goes
- VANTEL

I'd rather not sigh another late 20's/early 30's UFA to an expensive multi-year contract.


I'm fine with signing 1 year stop gaps a d flipping them at the TDL, ive been on that train since the day Benning was hired but they haven't done it yet
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:25 PM ET
You would think right


1 in 32

- VANTEL


7 of his 29 points are on the PP
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:28 PM ET
7 of his 29 points are on the PP
- Nucker101



A whole 7 ?


Daniel and Hank have 12 each . Why does the two line mates both have almost double?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
A whole 7 ?
- VANTEL

22 ES strength points..Dale mother (frank)ing Weise has done similar during by a couple of different seasons
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 20 @ 8:33 PM ET
Do you mean the PP unit that was 1 of 32 ?

The PP has stunk for years. It is a 2 man game and occasionally someone else gets to touch the puck

- VANTEL

Why do you bother haters are going to hate. Of course people pile on when he is injured and has stopped producing. He should never have been on the power play in the first place as Sutter generates his offense off the rush at 5 v 5. Not that our joke of a power play would inflate anyones stats. We should start declining power plays if Willie insists on using the Sedin's for 90 second per PP.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:36 PM ET
22 ES strength points..Dale mother (frank)ing Weise has done similar during by a couple of different seasons
- Nucker101



Dale Weise came close to those numbers once on the Habs who had 221 goals . Right now our entire team has 60 goals less than that total
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:37 PM ET
Why do you bother haters are going to hate. Of course people pile on when he is injured and has stopped producing. He should never have been on the power play in the first place as Sutter generates his offense off the rush at 5 v 5. Not that our joke of a power play would inflate anyones stats. We should start declining power plays if Willie insists on using the Sedin's for 90 second per PP.
- CanuckDon


It literally did inflate his stats, I agree that the Sedins should be the 2nd unit and that Sutter isn't a PP player.

Also, if I was just in it for hate, I wouldn't go from hating the Granlund deal to giving Benning props for it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 8:41 PM ET
Dale Weise came close to those numbers once on the Habs who had 221 goals . Right now our entire team has 60 goals less than that total
- VANTEL

My issue is that these guys signed long-term like Sutter/Eriksson aren't providing enough offense for their cap hits/ice time, these guys should be making their line area better, not relying on them to carry the line.

We all agree that the Sedins are in that category but theyre only signed for 1 more year so that's not a long term issue.
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