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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:50 AM ET
the "false" narrative that obvious to anyone that doesn't get off to defending the flyers and their coach
- YuenglingJagr



The only thing needed to debunk that theory is simple common sense..Don't need much advance hockey insight.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:52 AM ET

- JFlyers00


I....can't....stop...watching...this...

Why do I focus on the hat so much?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
I....can't....stop...watching...this...

Why do I focus on the hat so much?

- Glak18


could make a day out of watching people get kicked by horses...

on that note...american pharoah is currently being shipped all over the place to bone mares, and Bob Baffert says he may be over 1000 by the time he's done
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:58 AM ET
could make a day out of watching people get kicked by horses...

on that note...american pharoah is currently being shipped all over the place to bone mares, and Bob Baffert says he may be over 1000 by the time he's done

- YuenglingJagr


Thanks, that info will be nagging me all day.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 10:08 AM ET
He was pretty honest about Weise not working out so far.

"When you sign guys, we signed Dale Weise, I assume that is what you are talking about, to a four-year deal," Hextall said. "If you are evaluating right now, you say, 'It hasn't exactly been ... he hasn't put up the type of numbers we hope.'

"He's playing pretty well lately. He is certainly a better player than he has shown over the course of the year. At the time, we added depth to our lineup. We expect 12 to 15 goals and he is nowhere near that. So, in a nutshell, we know Dale can play better."


I think it's funny that Timmy still judges players on their +/- but he doesn't mention the Flyers best +/- players as having good seasons. Simmonds apparently is having a good or very good season, but I guess Schenn isn't despite their statistics being almost identical.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
He was pretty honest about Weise not working out so far.



I think it's funny that Timmy still judges players on their +/- but he doesn't mention the Flyers best +/- players as having good seasons. Simmonds apparently is having a good or very good season, but I guess Schenn isn't despite their statistics being almost identical.

- Feanor


Well, 15 goals would be a career high for Weise, so it's hard to expect that from him
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
I thought the same thing. It is concerning to say the least...
- StepfordSam


Do you also believe everything politicians say?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Do you also believe everything politicians say?
- Scoob

As long as they are quoted in an article, I have no reason not to
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
As long as they are quoted in an article, I have no reason not to
- YuenglingJagr


That explains a lot lol
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
Well, 15 goals would be a career high for Weise, so it's hard to expect that from him
- PhillySportsGuy



I expected 10 goals 15-20 assists. 4-4-8 is not good but I also believe he can still bounce back.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
I expected 10 goals 15-20 assists. 4-4-8 is not good but I also believe he can still bounce back.
- nastyflyergirl


I expected that from Raffl, too, and I think he can also bounce back.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
I expected 10 goals 15-20 assists. 4-4-8 is not good but I also believe he can still bounce back.
- nastyflyergirl


I think if people accept that he's a 4th liner, they won't be as upset about his production. I actually think he could make a half decent PKer if they gave him a chance.

collecting 25-30 points is pretty lofty considering that's basically his career high. It would be like assuming Voracek would continue to get 80 points after his best season.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:51 AM ET
I think if people accept that he's a 4th liner, they won't be as upset about his production. I actually think he could make a half decent PKer if they gave him a chance.

collecting 25-30 points is pretty lofty considering that's basically his career high. It would be like assuming Voracek would continue to get 80 points after his best season.

- PhillySportsGuy



I base that on last year and the season before when he went 79 GP 10-19-29 and 71 GP 14-13-27
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
My wishlist for October:

Sign Lindblom to ELC
Sign college UFA Mike Vecchione
Hope Morin is ready to earn a spot on the roster

Lindblom-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Filppula-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-[Vecchione]
?-Bellemare-?

Unknown
Read, Raffl, Weise, Weal, Lyubimov, Cousins

MacDonald-Provorov
Gudas-Gostisbehere
Manning-Morin

Hagg or veteran UFA

Then get through season and wait patiently for Sanheim, Myers and baby Datsyuk aka Rubtsov.

I'm easy to please
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:59 AM ET


collecting 25-30 points is pretty lofty considering that's basically his career high. It would be like assuming Voracek would continue to get 80 points after his best season.

- PhillySportsGuy



No that's completely different simply because a player like Voracek is not expected to put up 80 points, since for him, 80 points would signify an outstanding season and the high end of his expected production level. Expecting 25 points from a player who plays on the 3rd line, is not at all unreasonable or a high expectation for a player like Weise.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
My wishlist for October:

Sign Lindblom to ELC
Sign college UFA Mike Vecchione
Hope Morin is ready to earn a spot on the roster

Lindblom-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Filppula-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-

- Glak18[Vecchione]
?-Bellemare-?

Unknown
Read, Raffl, Weise, Weal, Lyubimov, Cousins

MacDonald-Provorov
Gudas-Gostisbehere
Manning-Morin

Hagg or veteran UFA

Then get through season and wait patiently for Sanheim, Myers and baby Datsyuk aka Rubtsov.

I'm easy to please

You didn't ask for MacDonald to get picked by Vegas... How can we take you seriously!?!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
My wishlist for October:

Sign Lindblom to ELC
Sign college UFA Mike Vecchione
Hope Morin is ready to earn a spot on the roster

Lindblom-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Filppula-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-

- Glak18[Vecchione]
?-Bellemare-?

Unknown
Read, Raffl, Weise, Weal, Lyubimov, Cousins

MacDonald-Provorov
Gudas-Gostisbehere
Manning-Morin

Hagg or veteran UFA

Then get through season and wait patiently for Sanheim, Myers and baby Datsyuk aka Rubtsov.

I'm easy to please



I have been impressed with Jordan Weal, even though I wasn't a fan previously. I think they need to give that kid a legitimate chance to be a late bloomer.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
I have been impressed with Jordan Weal, even though I wasn't a fan previously. I think they need to give that kid a legitimate chance to be a late bloomer.
- MJL


I don't disagree, I just don't see him on the 4th line and so many things can/will change from now to October.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
You didn't ask for MacDonald to get picked by Vegas... How can we take you seriously!?!
- FlyersGrace


Never take me seriously!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
My wishlist for October:

Sign Lindblom to ELC
Sign college UFA Mike Vecchione
Hope Morin is ready to earn a spot on the roster

Lindblom-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Filppula-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-

- Glak18[Vecchione]
?-Bellemare-?

Unknown
Read, Raffl, Weise, Weal, Lyubimov, Cousins

MacDonald-Provorov
Gudas-Gostisbehere
Manning-Morin

Hagg or veteran UFA

Then get through season and wait patiently for Sanheim, Myers and baby Datsyuk aka Rubtsov.

I'm easy to please


Why is the quoting system slotting me in on 3rd line?

Stupid thing, it should know I have always played off wing on the left...geez.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
I don't disagree, I just don't see him on the 4th line and so many things can/will change from now to October.
- Glak18



I don't see him as a 4th line player either, but there are different philosophies of what kind of players should be on the 4th line.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Hello.
- hunglikeapuck



hunglikeapuck, hello.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Why is the quoting system slotting me in on 3rd line?

Stupid thing, it should know I have always played off wing on the left...geez.

- Glak18



we feel you're ready for the big club.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
My wishlist for October:

Sign Lindblom to ELC
Sign college UFA Mike Vecchione
Hope Morin is ready to earn a spot on the roster

Lindblom-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Filppula-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-

- Glak18[Vecchione]
?-Bellemare-?

Unknown
Read, Raffl, Weise, Weal, Lyubimov, Cousins

MacDonald-Provorov
Gudas-Gostisbehere
Manning-Morin

Hagg or veteran UFA

Then get through season and wait patiently for Sanheim, Myers and baby Datsyuk aka Rubtsov.

I'm easy to please


IF Giroux and Jake can play MUCH better this lineup could work. If not, they will be I same spot next year
I would also like to see Weal and Sanheim get a shot. Sanheim may have passed Morin
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:15 AM ET
we feel you're ready for the big club.
- -davies-


I'm not, too much pressure from HockeyBuzz comments.

*runs to bathroom to throw up*
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