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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 4:16 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Utica...status/843553213089484800

Pedans a beast

- phyllee

Carcone is having a quiet but somewhat decent first year. Hard to judge Utica players because they have so many that are inept at scoring.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 19 @ 4:17 PM ET
We cannot retain salary on any more players next year.
- Nighthawk



I thought we have one more retaining option open with Hansen move.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Utica...status/843553213089484800

Pedans a beast

- phyllee

He destroyed a guy last game as well. Dude was bleeding all over the place. I want to keep Pedan
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:19 PM ET
Our GM is fine. They aren't leaving. Period
- CanuckDon


Piss poor asset management. They should've been gone a few years ago & any opportunity to trade them since. The Canucks and most of the fanbase are more concerned with being sentimental than maintaining a competitive roster churn.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:21 PM ET
He destroyed a guy last game as well. Dude was bleeding all over the place. I want to keep Pedan
- CanuckDon


Pedans having a down year from the previous, but with a new coach I wouldnt be suprised if Pedan has a roster spot.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Curtis Valk 4-0
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
Piss poor asset management. They should've been gone a few years ago & any opportunity to trade them since. The Canucks and most of the fanbase are more concerned with being sentimental than maintaining a competitive roster churn.
- DrChristianTroy

I don't know what kind of poster you are so I'll reply with an emoticon covering both scenarios
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:30 PM ET
I don't know what kind of poster you are so I'll reply with an emoticon covering both scenarios
- CanuckDon


keeping them has been beneficial how? Please explain...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:32 PM ET
keeping them has been beneficial how? Please explain...
- DrChristianTroy

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 4:34 PM ET
keeping them has been beneficial how? Please explain...
- DrChristianTroy

How has it harmed Vancouver?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:34 PM ET

- CanuckDon


... yeah, didn't think so. I have yet to see you back up an opinion with any decent argument. Just disagree & add an emoji.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
14 mil off the books when he is UfA
- VANTEL

Oilers may have issues with McDavid at that time if they can't offload RNH and/or Eberle . Offer Sheet the sh!t out of him. 11x7
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
How has it harmed Vancouver?
- manvanfan


Look at the standings bud.

Imagine where the rebuild would be if they were swapped out for prospects when they should've been. Instead we'll lose them for nothing.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Mar 19 @ 4:39 PM ET
Oilers may have issues with McDavid at that time if they can't offload RNH and/or Eberle . Offer Sheet the sh!t out of him. 11x7
- Retinalz

Did you do any research on the Oilers cap for 2018-19 before making this idiotic statement?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:40 PM ET
... yeah, didn't think so. I have yet to see you back up an opinion with any decent argument. Just disagree & add an emoji.
- DrChristianTroy

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Oilers may have issues with McDavid at that time if they can't offload RNH and/or Eberle . Offer Sheet the sh!t out of him. 11x7
- Retinalz

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Did you do any research on the Oilers cap for 2018-19 before making this idiotic statement?
- Larsson_fan

Do you not know what a winky face means?

EDIT: But they do have a lot of money still on the books for 18-19 season. Will be adding Draisatl to that list, and Nurse will need a raise, Benning will need a raise. Eberle's contract ends the year after McDavid get his pay raise. 40 mil dedicated to 8 players. Probably 6-7 for Draisatl so thats 46-47. assume that the cap is 77 mil, they have 30 mil to sign McDavid, Nurse, Benning and 11 other players. it can be done, but would be extremely tight. McDavid will easily get 10+ mil from oilers. possible more as he is already showing to be the most dominant scorer in the league right now. and he will only get better.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
Look at the standings bud.

Imagine where the rebuild would be if they were swapped out for prospects when they should've been. Instead we'll lose them for nothing.

- DrChristianTroy

Do you actually think that Van would be somewhere else in the standing without the Sedins?

Up until last year they were 70 point players a year. Who trades 70 a year point players?

So Van trades them last season. We got 2 prospects or 2 picks for them. Neither of those picks would be on this team. 2 prospects, well we have seen what WD likes to do with prospects. Would still be in the same place in the standings.

Van could trade them this year, we wouldn't still be picking in the same spot in the standings with or without them. Don't argue otherwise because it's true.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
Do you actually think that Van would be somewhere else in the standing without the Sedins?

Up until last year they were 70 point players a year. Who trades 70 a year point players?

So Van trades them last season. We got 2 prospects or 2 picks for them. Neither of those picks would be on this team. 2 prospects, well we have seen what WD likes to do with prospects. Would still be in the same place in the standings.

Van could trade them this year, we wouldn't still be picking in the same spot in the standings with or without them. Don't argue otherwise because it's true.

- manvanfan


Kind of the (frank)ing point... We could be bottom feeders with the Sedins (which we are), or we could be bottom feeders with the elite prospects we got for the Sedins in the system. How is the first option more attractive?!? That's how you have prolonged dark ages as a franchise.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
Do you actually think that Van would be somewhere else in the standing without the Sedins?

Up until last year they were 70 point players a year. Who trades 70 a year point players?

So Van trades them last season. We got 2 prospects or 2 picks for them. Neither of those picks would be on this team. 2 prospects, well we have seen what WD likes to do with prospects. Would still be in the same place in the standings.

Van could trade them this year, we wouldn't still be picking in the same spot in the standings with or without them. Don't argue otherwise because it's true.

- manvanfan


I think the Sedins deserve better than to be forced out of town. Let them retire Canucks at the end of the year. They would never be traded separately so the only way they could be traded would be at next years TDL if we offer to cover 50 % of the cap hit for one of them. Any GM that traded them a couple years ago...well Aquilini would have fired them. And of course, this is ignoring their full NMC. Edler is the veteran that managment should be aggressively pressing to waive.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
I think the Sedins deserve better than to be forced out of town. Let them retire Canucks at the end of the year. They would never be traded separately so the only way they could be traded would be at next years TDL if we offer to cover 50 % of the cap hit for one of them. Any GM that traded them a couple years ago...well Aquilini would have fired them. And of course, this is ignoring their full NMC. Edler is the veteran that managment should be aggressively pressing to waive.
- CanuckDon


We have used up our 3 salary retentions next year
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
I think the Sedins deserve better than to be forced out of town. Let them retire Canucks at the end of the year. They would never be traded separately so the only way they could be traded would be at next years TDL if we offer to cover 50 % of the cap hit for one of them. Any GM that traded them a couple years ago...well Aquilini would have fired them. And of course, this is ignoring their full NMC. Edler is the veteran that managment should be aggressively pressing to waive.
- CanuckDon


So as I thought, your position is about sentimentality, not business...

But I agree on Edler.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
I would look at bringing Bachman back for a year or two. He is reliable ,cheap and it is a transition year. Paying Markstrom 3.6 mil for 10 starts is nuts.
- VANTEL


word was Markstrom>Talbot AINEC this time last year, hrmmmm
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
I think the Sedins deserve better than to be forced out of town. Let them retire Canucks at the end of the year. They would never be traded separately so the only way they could be traded would be at next years TDL if we offer to cover 50 % of the cap hit for one of them. Any GM that traded them a couple years ago...well Aquilini would have fired them. And of course, this is ignoring their full NMC. Edler is the veteran that managment should be aggressively pressing to waive.
- CanuckDon

Benning owes it to the Fans to ask them to waive at next years TDL(unless we somehow have a great year). If they say no, so be it. But he has to at least ask. Forcing them out is a bad idea.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
We have used up our 3 salary retentions next year
- Nighthawk

We only have 2 next season. Lou and Hansen. We till have 1 left.
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