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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
Passengers was a good movie (great CG, story) but they wrapped up the movie far too quickly with odd editing in the last 10 minutes.

Enjoy your plus / minus articles. Keep them coming.

- Leafsandbolts


Thanks !

I agree about the ending.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
AGREED about partisanship
It's insane.
The middle is good people! It's where rational thinkers generally go!!

Whats her name in passengers is a total smoke show. deec movie too.

Eichel is the man. So so so good. Merely a half step behind Connor. One of the leagues best handful of players for years to come


A bunch of teams have 12 otl to the leafs 15. A bunch more have 11.
The leafs aren't in some unheard of rarified air of bad luck. They just struggle to get it done 3v3 and in the shootout. Just like a number of other teams do.
I won't vehemently disagree they aren't the best team in the Atlantic cause there's no real standout in a fairly weak division. but on face value, I'd certainly pick the Habs over them. A healthy bolts and panthers as well
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
Yes, but who cares about viewership when the dollars made look like this:

Olympics: zero

World Cup: some

- James_Tanner


I think for a lot of these players (especially Euros) who already make millions, they would rather play when the majority of their nation is watching than for what really amounts to an NHL preseason showcase.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:05 PM ET
How can I be wrong? Your evidence is what players say. I don't care what players say. They are also wrong.

Whether or not a player decides that the arbitrary nature of the Olympics means something to him, has no bearing no the FACT that the same players and countries can put the same tournament on, on their own terms, make the money off it and the only difference will be that it's not called the "Olympics."

At this point, I am now realizing that you don't know what "arbitrary" means.

- James_Tanner


Obviously the players that are going don't care about the money.

It's the "OLYMPICS" and I'm not understanding that you don't get it or at least see both sides, it's seems the only FACT is you don't care about other peoples opinions.

James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
AGREED about partisanship
It's insane.
The middle is good people! It's where rational thinkers generally go!!

Whatshername isn passengers is a total smoke show. deec movie too.

Eichel is the man. So so so good. Merely a half step behind Connor. One of the leagues best handful of players for years to come


A bunch of teams have 12 otl to the leafs 15. A bunch more have 11.
The leafs aren't in some unheard of rarified air of bad luck. They just struggle to get it done 3v3 and in the shootout. Just like a number of other teams do.
I won't vehemently disagree they aren't the best team in the Atlantic cause there's no real standout in a fairly weak division. but on face value, I'd certainly pick the Habs over them. A healthy bolts and panthers as well

- HB77


I believe that 3 on 3 OT is pretty much trading chances till someone scores and thus completely random. Leafs aren't the only team getting unlucky - a few teams every year will be unlucky, it's the nature of the sport.

You could also argue injuries are bad luck and that Tampa is the unluckiest team - I wouldn't disagree. Same with Florida.

Thing about the Leafs though - Matthews, Marner, Kadri on different lines with Nylaner and JVR to throw in there is just crazy. + fastest team in the NHL.


James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
I think for a lot of these players (especially Euros) who already make millions, they would rather play when the majority of their nation is watching than for what really amounts to an NHL preseason showcase.
- rmdevil313


That at least is a real point against what I'm saying. Didn't think of it from a non-North American perspective. Don't think it's enough to change my mind, but a solid point nevertheless.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 19 @ 2:10 PM ET
Obviously the players that are going don't care about the money.

It's the "OLYMPICS" and I'm not understanding that you don't get it or at least see both sides, it's seems the only FACT is you don't care about other peoples opinions.

- Garnie


No I definitely see the other side. I am only pointing out how arbitrary it is.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
Oh and Gardiner has been on the wrong side of the CF meter 2 games in a row being used in Rielly's old spot, probably just a coincidence? I don't think so...

Not sure he did well against Kucherov...his CF% 15...he had 4 shot attempts for and 22 against while he was on the ice.

You're buddies are texting you the same thing? Even they think you're crazy. haha...I kid.

AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Mar 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
I believe that 3 on 3 OT is pretty much trading chances till someone scores and thus completely random. Leafs aren't the only team getting unlucky - a few teams every year will be unlucky, it's the nature of the sport.

You could also argue injuries are bad luck and that Tampa is the unluckiest team - I wouldn't disagree. Same with Florida.

Thing about the Leafs though - Matthews, Marner, Kadri on different lines with Nylaner and JVR to throw in there is just crazy. + fastest team in the NHL.

- James_Tanner


Yes they can certainly win with Hunwick and Polak in the top 4, and also not having a number 1 d man. Every other team in the Atlantic has a number 1 D minus Detroit- they may have the best/most dynamic offense, but they are going nowhere until they fix that D
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
No I definitely see the other side. I am only pointing out how arbitrary it is.
- James_Tanner


oh....it didnt seem like it in the convo...no biggie...I like the Olympics ( other than the corruption obviously )
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yes they can certainly win with Hunwick and Polak in the top 4, and also not having a number 1 d man. Every other team in the Atlantic has a number 1 D minus Detroit- they may have the best/most dynamic offense, but they are going nowhere until they fix that D
- AlexBoucher



Hunwick and Polak in the top 4....hmmm, somebody doesn't watch any Leaf games.

Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:17 PM ET
MINUS: NHL Players for whining constantly about the Olympics. You'll make way, way more money having another World Cup. It won't have to be held at 3 in the morning. And, you get to play the same players in the same tournament. The only difference is what it's called.

-James Tanner


You know that time difference goes both ways huh? The world cup was 2 in the morning over here. Invalid argument sir.
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Mar 19 @ 2:17 PM ET
Hunwick and Polak in the top 4....hmmm, somebody doesn't watch any Leaf games.
- Garnie


Sorry- Marchenko and Marincin
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
Sorry- Marchenko and Marincin
- AlexBoucher


Still wrong...but thanks for playing.

It was

Rielly / Z
Gardiner/Carrick ( when Carrick injured 1 of Marincin/Marchenko )
Polak/Huwick

Now the last couple
Gardiner / Z
Rielly / Marchenko until Carrick is back
Polak / Hunwick
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
That at least is a real point against what I'm saying. Didn't think of it from a non-North American perspective. Don't think it's enough to change my mind, but a solid point nevertheless.
- James_Tanner


For what its worth I don't think the Olympics are ideal either, for many of the same reasons you said, but I don't trust the NHL to put the growth of hockey ahead of the league when it comes to an international tournament.
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Mar 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
Still wrong...but thanks for playing.

It was

Rielly / Z
Gardiner/Carrick ( when Carrick injured 1 of Marincin/Marchenko )
Polak/Huwick

Now the last couple
Gardiner / Z
Rielly / Marchenko until Carrick is back
Polak / Hunwick

- Garnie


Sooooo Marchenko and Marincin in the top 4? I am reading what you wrote! haha
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
He does look like TED THEODORE LOGAN!!!!

I agree with the premise of paying all amateurs to play. couple problems though. one, if you pay basketball/football, etc. the fencing, swimming, wrestling, etc teams all should be paid too... and either those teams make profit or they get cut by the school... thats that many less scholarships to hand out. thats tricky. also, in the free market system, what would prevent big schools from paying say a stud quarterback millions and buying up championships? beats the purpose of amateur sports.

the world cup sucked as much as the olympics did. leave those tourneys to amateurs.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Mar 19 @ 2:26 PM ET
Was this written by a 12 year old?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 2:28 PM ET
I believe that 3 on 3 OT is pretty much trading chances till someone scores and thus completely random. Leafs aren't the only team getting unlucky - a few teams every year will be unlucky, it's the nature of the sport.

You could also argue injuries are bad luck and that Tampa is the unluckiest team - I wouldn't disagree. Same with Florida.

Thing about the Leafs though - Matthews, Marner, Kadri on different lines with Nylaner and JVR to throw in there is just crazy. + fastest team in the NHL.

- James_Tanner

I don't disagree about their dynamic offence, it's what's keeping them in the hunt. But their depth in the bottom 6 and more importantly, their weak defence is what keeps them from being the best team in the Atlantic and instead a bubble playoff team.

As far as speed, The oilers are certainly 'faster' than the ducks or the sharks, but they're still probably inferior . For sure to the sharks anyway. Same goes for the leafs and some of their 'slower' competitors
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:30 PM ET
Sooooo Marchenko and Marincin in the top 4? I am reading what you wrote! haha
- AlexBoucher


1 of them at times yes.

You come in here and laugh and say they suck but don't have a (frank)ing clue whos even in the lineup....talk about haha.

I say you go look at the Sens top 4 if you want a chuckle.


Atarileaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 02.12.2017

Mar 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
Is the Nintendo Classic Edition coming out or not? Was it limited time? Does anyone know?


The short answer apparently is that nobody really knows. Is Nintendo deliberatly causing a shortage or did they just grossly underestimate how popular it would be? I haven't personally seen one but I don't think I'd bother now even if I did. I recently soft-modded my Wii with the homebrew channel and I have the entire NES library on it, I can use filters, save states and apply cheat codes with it. If you have a Wii you don't use anymore I'd suggest doing the same.
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Mar 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
1 of them at times yes.

You come in here and laugh and say they suck but don't have a (frank)ing clue whos even in the lineup....talk about haha.

I say you go look at the Sens top 4 if you want a chuckle.

- Garnie


Polak played over 20 minutes last night...Ottawa's defense is definitely weak, but I would probably take those 6 100 times over TOs. The difference is a number 1 D man and a little more experience on Ottawa's side.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Mar 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
MINUS: Hockeybuzz blogger makes 2016-17 season prediction that neither the Blackhawks nor Ducks will make the playoffs.

As of 3.19.17, the Blackhawks have the most points in the Western Conference, the Ducks rank #4.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
James Tanner: PLUS/MINUS: 4 Months, Tons of Money and a Playoff Race for the Ages
Plus Minus is your Grandma's favorite weekly column.

- James_Tanner

Congrats on giving up smoking and replacing it with video games, junk food and the sedentary lifestyle that goes with it. They call that the new smoking.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
I personally loved the throwback jerseys. I think they should wear it at least one game a year. Being a kids who grew up in the 80's and 90's I'd like to go back to home whites and road darks again but don't see it happening anytime soon.
As far as Olympics goes yes they might make more money with a World Cup but honestly the players don't give a poop about the World Cup. There more of a emotional attachment to the Olympics than the World Cup.

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100% agreement.

and as for the home and away jersey thing... why not just alternate each year

and the Leafs should definitely institutionalize the St Pats jersey... every year for a mid-march game... and put a big Guiness logo on the shoulders!
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