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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:16 PM ET
After seeing how this years draft class is shaking out, I would prefer to see Hexy explore trading the pick for a young NHL or close to NHL ready forward prospect with top 6 potential.

Probably just a pipe dream but none of these players I am really enamored with. Especially in the 6-10th pick range where I am guessing they pick this year.


If he keeps the pick that is fine too. But I think if he could find a partner that fits my criteria I would pull the trigger.

- MBFlyerfan


nooooooo
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 19 @ 8:17 PM ET
nooooooo
- Mononoke


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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:18 PM ET
THoughts on the Giroux Hip article from Philly.com ?

http://www.philly.com/phi..._problem_this_season.html
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
7 points, +7, 60% CF% in 8 games

2 points, -6, 40% CF% in 8 games
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:23 PM ET
THoughts on the Giroux Hip article from Philly.com ?

http://www.philly.com/phi..._problem_this_season.html

- opeth_pa

Ghost had the same thing and started looking like his normal self recently as well.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
Ghost looked and did great at The World Cup back in September though, unlike Captain Press Box! He looks no different to me moving, like Giroux does. Ghost has just had Confidence issues.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:26 PM ET
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- PhillySportsGuy


I don't get it. Everyone was gung-ho for the playoff push, and I was criticized by rude posters for wanting to get a top 10 pick instead, thinking of the long term instead of another week or two in April. They were very rude and unfair to me, I have to say. Yet here I am watching the games still. And where are they? Where are they?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
THoughts on the Giroux Hip article from Philly.com ?

http://www.philly.com/phi..._problem_this_season.html

- opeth_pa

mcrossined
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
I don't get it. Everyone was gung-ho for the playoff push, and I was criticized by rude posters for wanting to get a top 10 pick instead, thinking of the long term instead of another week or two in April. They were very rude and unfair to me, I have to say. Yet here I am watching the games still. And where are they? Where are they?
- Mononoke

I'm here that's all that matters
B_Radivojevic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.23.2016

Mar 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
Jay Greenberg (and I, because I wrote the first draft of the related chapter in Flyers at 50) detailed exactly how it went down. Separate yourself from how it turned out and try to set your mind to the circumstances as they existed at the time.

After the disastrous goalie carousel -- Boosh, Bob, Leighton -- in the 2011 playoffs, Ed Snider (perhaps letting public opinion sway him too much) demanded, vehemently, that the Flyers solve their goaltending issue once and for all. Bryzgalov, a year removed from being a Vezina finalist with the Coyotes and with a Cup ring (albeit as a backup) in Anaheim, was available.

In private, Holmgren and Jeff Reese both opined that Bobrovsky would be fine as the starter and would continue to blossom after a promising rookie year in which he faded a bit in the second half. Snider didn't want to bank on counting on that happening right away.

The Flyers acquired Bryz. Bob was an unhappy backup for one year but was unwilling to do it a second year. No one knew that amnesty buyouts would be part of the next CBA (that idea wasn't looking promising at the time).

Bob demanded a trade under threat of going back to Russia. This was also before the NHL and KHL had an agreement to honor each other's contracts.

Holmgren told Bob's agent he'd work out a trade but, in return, please don't go public with the trade demand. They agreed. Bob was traded to Columbus.

So now you know. Oh, and one more thing.... there is zero guarantee that Bob would have won a Vezina here. Also, in the years between his Vezina season and this one, he was oft-injured and rather inconsistent in 2015-16.

- bmeltzer



Wow. This is what I suspected all along, expect that Holmgren and Reese expressed thought Bob would be ok with some more seasoning. That makes sense since he was a younger goalie and not used to that kind of heavy workload. The idea that there would not be amnesty buyouts is especially frightening considering how things started to turn sour so quickly.


Bob may not have been a Vezina winner here, but things may have been a lot more stable.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
I'm here that's all that matters
- Mordecai


Truthfully, I don't think you actually watch hockey and just come for the cool pop culture chats!
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
Backreading I see Bill was trying to to discuss logically with PLind various things...

More power to him..

- opeth_pa



Some people are gluttons for punishment.


Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
Truthfully, I don't think you actually watch hockey and just come for the cool pop culture chats!
- Mononoke

There are enough experts here already, you don't need my input.

Also, I'm a STH which makes me better than most of you so...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
Truthfully, I don't think you actually watch hockey and just come for the cool pop culture chats!
- Mononoke

This is a hockey site?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
This is a hockey site?
- BiggE



Nope.

It is a fancy stats site..
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
wow the canes looking ugly right now
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
HAHAHA

This is my favorite type of thing, because I know Longface scoring pisses off so many people in here.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
Go TK.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
I was going to ask my doctor for Ambien to help me fall asleep at night, I've since realized it will be cheaper to simply watch replays of Flyers games.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:50 PM ET
Great puck possession by Konecny down low. Need to see that from some other guys more often.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
Kind of surprised canes didn't challenge, I thought Filpula stick was touching ward's pad in the crease
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
great save mason
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:57 PM ET
great save mason
- 2Real




You're so committed. I wish I had your dedication.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
Jesus. How did Simmonds not get called there?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 9:01 PM ET
I liked the booth talking about how you can't have 6 Gudas's.......

Holy (frank). I would love to see that.
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