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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:29 PM ET
He spoke today about just recently starting to feel confident that he won't reinjure his hip and that he's finally starting to feel like himself. This gives me some confidence that he can have a bounce back year next season. He may never be quite the player he was at 25, but if he can improve his ES play and put up 25 goals and 65-70 points, that's a legit 1C these days.
- BiggE


I expect him to improve. He has looked much different the last month or so, and it's been noticeable in stats and tape, even with the naysayers trying to disagree. People got in crazy mode the last few months with him, wanting to trade him for a late 1st and cap dump. Proclaiming the end was near, disaster ahead. I expect him to be able to hit those numbers for several years yet. He only has to return to 2nd/3rd line scoring to do so probably given his PP work. And he'll have more talent to play with, besides his own regression to the mean.

But still. The entire team is having terrible, backwards years outside PP1. Did every single player on the team also have hip surgery? It does make me cautious in projecting point totals, even if he feels/looks better, because the issues are with more than just individuals, healthy or not.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Mar 19 @ 5:29 PM ET
Amazingly a 23 year old goaltender with all that potential netted the same return as a 35 year old rental dman Pavel Kubina. A 2nd and 4th round pick. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise considering who the GM was in both trades.
- PLindbergh31


Kubina was cooked.... but he was also a two-time former NHL All-Star (one year stepping out due to injury), and those don't come cheaply as rentals, even in their mid-30s. Also, Jagr opined that he thought his countryman still had one big run left in him. He and the Flyers were wrong.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
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Mar 19 @ 6:27 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


I had to check if this was you or not
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
I had to check if this was you or not
- Mononoke


*kills self*
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 19 @ 7:02 PM ET
*kills self*
- PhillySportsGuy


if you kill self, who tell Mitch "jokes" now, FilthySportsBoy?






(I think I nailed it)
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
I expect him to improve. He has looked much different the last month or so, and it's been noticeable in stats and tape, even with the naysayers trying to disagree. People got in crazy mode the last few months with him, wanting to trade him for a late 1st and cap dump. Proclaiming the end was near, disaster ahead. I expect him to be able to hit those numbers for several years yet. He only has to return to 2nd/3rd line scoring to do so probably given his PP work. And he'll have more talent to play with, besides his own regression to the mean.

But still. The entire team is having terrible, backwards years outside PP1. Did every single player on the team also have hip surgery? It does make me cautious in projecting point totals, even if he feels/looks better, because the issues are with more than just individuals, healthy or not.

- Mononoke


And that is why I'm far from sold on Hak yet. Not calling for his head, but I need to see a much better all around performance from this team next season
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 7:34 PM ET
Look I get that the broadcast crew has to keep the people interested but did JJ really just say "the Flyers only have 5 teams in front of them for a playoff spot now."
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
This is a 4 point tank game. Need this loss
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 19 @ 7:42 PM ET
I really hope they don't bring back Del Zotto, his defensive awareness just has vanished
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Mar 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
I really hope they don't bring back Del Zotto, his defensive awareness just has vanished
- ravishingone

He's a frustrating player. When he's on he's absolutely electric. He's one of those guys that I think would benefit being paired with a strong defensive defensemen. Otherwise you're just asking too much of the guy.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
if you kill self, who tell Mitch "jokes" now, FilthySportsBoy?






(I think I nailed it)

- Mononoke


Please. You're giving me PTSD
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
I really hope they don't bring back Del Zotto, his defensive awareness just has vanished
- ravishingone


I'd be shocked
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
This is a 4 point tank game. Need this loss
- Just5



After seeing how this years draft class is shaking out, I would prefer to see Hexy explore trading the pick for a young NHL or close to NHL ready forward prospect with top 6 potential.

Probably just a pipe dream but none of these players I am really enamored with. Especially in the 6-10th pick range where I am guessing they pick this year.


If he keeps the pick that is fine too. But I think if he could find a partner that fits my criteria I would pull the trigger.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
He's a frustrating player. When he's on he's absolutely electric. He's one of those guys that I think would benefit being paired with a strong defensive defensemen. Otherwise you're just asking too much of the guy.
- hereticpride


I'm beginning to think his success had more to do with Gudas than him being good.

Gudas is awesome
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
The Weise hat trick there on that shift. A failed corral of an outlet pass, a successful body check on provorov taking him off the puck, and a drop pass in the neutral zone to a hurricane
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
I'm beginning to think his success had more to do with Gudas than him being good.

Gudas is awesome

- PhillySportsGuy


Yes he is. But good MDZ, like from last year, was good too. Shouldn't be shortchanged entirely
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
I'm beginning to think his success had more to do with Gudas than him being good.

Gudas is awesome

- PhillySportsGuy


It just seems MDZ loses coverage in the offensive zone for a break away or odd man rush at least a couple of times a game. Asking Gudas to skate back quickly is asking a lot. It would be nice to have another righty on the blue line next season
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 19 @ 7:56 PM ET
The Weise hat trick there on that shift. A failed corral of an outlet pass, a successful body check on provorov taking him off the puck, and a drop pass in the neutral zone to a hurricane
- Just5








hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 7:56 PM ET
After seeing how this years draft class is shaking out, I would prefer to see Hexy explore trading the pick for a young NHL or close to NHL ready forward prospect with top 6 potential.

Probably just a pipe dream but none of these players I am really enamored with. Especially in the 6-10th pick range where I am guessing they pick this year.


If he keeps the pick that is fine too. But I think if he could find a partner that fits my criteria I would pull the trigger.

- MBFlyerfan

Anything that nets us a legit top 6 forward prospect or young player I am cool with.

Maybe that move gets made by a team that wants one of the top D men in this class? Off the top of my head the Avs could have serious interest in a move like that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 7:56 PM ET
Yes he is. But good MDZ, like from last year, was good too. Shouldn't be shortchanged entirely
- Mononoke


I think he's more of a neutral type dman. He's not going to hurt a good dman, but he's not going to help a bad dman.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 19 @ 8:12 PM ET
What the kid did
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Mar 19 @ 8:12 PM ET
Filthy
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:14 PM ET
Provorov

He is a ray of sunshine in our darkened world
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:16 PM ET
Backreading I see Bill was trying to to discuss logically with PLind various things...

More power to him..
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