I'm thinking the one D man to target (if available) is Karl Alzner, steady D guy.
- LeafMan

yeah... a guy like him exactly... and his cost wouldnt be over the top so when the group of kids start to come off their ELCs his signing wont hamper the team

I don't think this defence will be fixed next year as well, might be more of the same.
- LeafMan

I think Rielly and Zaitsev are better than people think right now.. they've been playing like poop no doubt but it'll get better. Carrick was just starting to look like an NHLer when he got hurt. They get him back soon. Polak has stepped his game up and good thjng he did otherwise this group would be lost. They need a big presence and make a few changes. Next year it should look like this.

Rielly New Guy
Gardiner Zaits
Nielsen Carrick
Marchenko.

With only 1 year left on his deal, I don’t think jvr brings back the established young long-term dman we need.
- Tumbleweed

No, they would need to send picks and prospects as well.

He's up there for sure, no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean that he's perfect, and if anything, at times that makes some of his decisions and preferences even more baffling. We're obviously much better off with him than without him, but there's still room for improvement.
- lumlums

bring back horachek

I think Rielly and Zaitsev are better than people think right now.. they've been playing like poop no doubt but it'll get better. Carrick was just starting to look like an NHLer when he got hurt. They get him back soon. Polak has stepped his game up and good thjng he did otherwise this group would be lost. They need a big presence and make a few changes. Next year it should look like this.

Rielly New Guy
Gardiner Zaits
Nielsen Carrick
Marchenko.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I like to see at least one of Dermott, Neilson or Valiev up next season.

Alzner really looks like a fit to me, again if available, probably at a 5 mil per cost.

i remember that show too so i guess i'm in the old category with ya


Jaromir Jagr
Shane Doan
Matt Cullen
Zdeno Chara
Jarome Iginla
Shawn Thornton

the 6 guys in the league older than me... and in fairness the bolded are the same birth year but an earlier month

I hope jagr plays forever
- Dozzer

I thought he was a whiny little female dog last night.. Running his mouth at Marner.

bring back horachek
- Dozzer

Yeah, he can make sure that Bozie's gloves are clean so that the dumb (frank) doesn't end up on an IV again...

I thought he was a whiny little female dog last night.. Running his mouth at Marner.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

marner did embellish tho... it was pretty obvious... and the old guy called him on it

I like to see at least one of Dermott, Neilson or Valiev up next season.

Alzner really looks like a fit to me, again if available, probably at a 5 mil per cost.
- LeafMan

I'd be onboard with Alzner..

I threw Nielsen in there because his stats look better than Dermotts so far. I think this group just needs to settle in a little more and they'll be fine.

I thought he was a whiny little female dog last night.. Running his mouth at Marner.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You know who I tend to hate the most in the league for female doging/whining? Giroux. Every close up on that (frank)er he is female doging and whining. Every.Damn.Time.

marner did embellish tho... it was pretty obvious... and the old guy called him on it
- Dozzer

He got his wish tho.. refs called 2 penalties taken against him that were just as weak.

He got his wish tho.. refs called 2 penalties against him that were just as weak.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

its similar to kadri a few years back... learning to draw a penalty without looking like a diving douche... give him a couple years

its similar to kadri a few years back... learning to draw a penalty without looking like a diving douche... give him a couple years
- Dozzer

Bad example. I feel like Kadri needs a bullet-wound to have a call go his way these days.

They've only got 9smill and a bunch of FA's to sign. It'll be interesting to see what they do to make the money work. If that's where he lands that is.
- markmark

One thing is if we dip into LTIR, we could unlock a lot of cap space and could offer high money low term deals that other teams won’t be able to match.

Bad example. I feel like Kadri needs a bullet-wound to have a call go his way these days.
- markmark

kadri: he just shot a (frank)ing bazooka at me!!

ref: didnt see it so no call

You know who I tend to hate the most in the league for female doging/whining? Giroux. Every close up on that (frank)er he is female doging and whining. Every.Damn.Time.
- markmark

He does lol..

I think all these big stars are whiners.. Toews whines, Getzlaf, Thornton, Benn, Staal.. all whine when they play the Leafs.. it's a sense of entitlement they have. Even if Marner did embellish he should have just shut-up like a pro and collect his paycheck he's lucky to have.

He does lol..

I think all these big stars are whiners.. Toews whines, Getzlaf, Thornton, Benn, Staal.. all whine when they play the Leafs.. it's a sense of entitlement they have. Even if Marner did embellish he should have just shut-up like a pro and collect his paycheck he's lucky to have.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

you arent wrong but i think at this point jagr has earned the right to female dog

its similar to kadri a few years back... learning to draw a penalty without looking like a diving douche... give him a couple years
- Dozzer

I don't think things are as black and white as you make them Dozzer...

Can't just chalk everything up as a part of the learning curve. Every player has a personality and they develop that growing up playing the game everyday. Sometimes their style doesn't fit the NHL mandated code of ethics, i.e. Kadri embellishing. But that doesn't mean if the same deal with Marner. With Mitch he seems to always fall for the old stick in the skates dive that gets called everytime.. half of his penalties are because of this.

you arent wrong but i think at this point jagr has earned the right to female dog
- Dozzer

Lol.. maybe..

But I don't really believe in that.. ALthough I wouldn't want to be the one rookie with a reputation of not respecting one of the all-time greats.

Lol.. maybe..

But I don't really believe in that.. ALthough I wouldn't want to be the one rookie with a reputation of not respecting one of the all-time greats.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

well.... marner was still poopting his diapers when jagr was winning the hart trophy

just let him be the grumpy old man already lol

I don't think things are as black and white as you make them Dozzer...

Can't just chalk everything up as a part of the learning curve. Every player has a personality and they develop that growing up playing the game everyday. Sometimes their style doesn't fit the NHL mandated code of ethics, i.e. Kadri embellishing. But that doesn't mean if the same deal with Marner. With Mitch he seems to always fall for the old stick in the skates dive that gets called everytime.. half of his penalties are because of this.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

learning what you can and cannot get away with in the NHL is just as important as learning to play with and without the puck.... these kids will figure this out.... i am not too worried

well.... marner was still poopting his diapers when jagr was winning the hart trophy

just let him be the grumpy old man already lol
- Dozzer

Oh I don't mind it at all.. just kinda looks bad on him..

He should retire for the good of the game.. there's already so many asterisks with his stats I don't think he could polish it anymore.

learning what you can and cannot get away with in the NHL is just as important as learning to play with and without the puck.... these kids will figure this out.... i am not too worried
- Dozzer

Leafs are lucky to have not only skilled rookies, but ones who are very smart and humble enough to adapt.. it really impressed with Soshnikovs approach.

Oh I don't mind it at all.. just kinda looks bad on him..

He should retire for the good of the game.. there's already so many asterisks with his stats I don't think he could polish it anymore.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

retire?!?! no way... he needs to go to vegas



http://old.post-gazette.c...ns/20010702jagr0702p6.asp

You guys are all funny.

If anyone said at the beginning of the year, the last place Leafs would be challenging for a playoff spot in March, everyone would have thought that person was insane.

Now that it's happening, everyone seems to be on board with selling assets, making the playoffs at all costs, etc.

Patience people. Last year we bottomed out. This year, we made significant strides up the standings. The team is being led by 7 rookies. Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Zaitsev, Hyman, Brown, Soshnikov.

Help is on the way. Hunter will keep drafting, Lou will keep trading, and the team will improve. No need to rush the process. The management team knows the weaknesses of this team and they will fix it the right way, not the JFJ and Burke way