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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 14 @ 7:24 PM ET
There's a big difference between having data and implementing data into your decisions. I would bet the Flyers pay very little attention to data during their evaluations.
- PhillySportsGuy


I have it on good authority Boyd Gordon was signed on the strength of his GVDVSWOTTPWHS (Goals VDV Scored WithOut Touching The Puck With His Stick) numbers
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 7:37 PM ET
I have it on good authority Boyd Gordon was signed on the strength of his GVDVSWOTTPWHS (Goals VDV Scored WithOut Touching The Puck With His Stick) numbers
- Mononoke

You better have typed that out instead of copy and pasting. That stat is proprietary
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 7:48 PM ET


It really is just hilarious you try to use that as an argument to decide what stats can and can't be used. Any stat can be used incorrectly or taken out of context. Any team can think a stat they track gives them an advantage, but that isn't a guarantee.

- YuenglingJagr



I don't try and use that as an argument to decide what stats can and can't be used. I use it as an argument to show that NHL teams have access to better stats and information that we as fans have access to. That should be taken into consideration.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 7:54 PM ET
I have it on good authority Boyd Gordon was signed on the strength of his GVDVSWOTTPWHS (Goals VDV Scored WithOut Touching The Puck With His Stick) numbers
- Mononoke

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 14 @ 7:55 PM ET
Big night for our pick, gents.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
Big night for our pick, gents.
- Mononoke


Its starting to get exciting again

Carolina, Tampa, and Florida up oh my!
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:10 PM ET
See this is what I come here for. Stupid random humor.

It's just so easy to get sucked into the BS. You scroll through and one person dares to say a bad thing and the superfans cry then lose their poop. Wooo awhh ma gawd, this team is sooo good!

Whatever, good day and good hockey.

- flyer_nutter

Yeah that's how things go around here. few "dare" to be negative and it's always completely rational. Except for theose delusional fans who support the team.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:19 PM ET
Big night for our pick, gents.
- Mononoke

Still think 9 is best case scenario
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:19 PM ET
oh boy...that doesn't look good for hawks at all anisimov with a high ankle issue cant put weight on it
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:23 PM ET
Still think 9 is best case scenario
- YuenglingJagr


I can see Carolina and Florida passing us but that's it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:26 PM ET
Might as well tank for the Draft now. Trust the Process.
- TJSgrignoli

should have done that weeks ago but people finally get it
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:27 PM ET
I can see Carolina and Florida passing us but that's it
- Just5

Puts us at 10. I am hoping Carolina and Buffalo go on a run, but still think the Flyers will do something ridiculous like get 9 out of their last 10 points or something. Just feels like it would happen
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 8:29 PM ET
should have done that weeks ago but people finally get it
- 2Real


To be honest, I can't remember a season when you haven't called for a tank
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 8:29 PM ET
Puts us at 10. I am hoping Carolina and Buffalo go on a run, but still think the Flyers will do something ridiculous like get 9 out of their last 10 points or something. Just feels like it would happen
- YuenglingJagr


Time to PDO the final stretch!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:30 PM ET
To be honest, I can't remember a season when you haven't called for a tank
- PhillySportsGuy

it's been almost 10 years since we've had a real good team it's time
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 8:31 PM ET
it's been almost 10 years since we've had a real good team it's time
- 2Real


Were you team Hinkie?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:32 PM ET
Back to regularly scheduled programming...random stats

Colorado is 2nd in the NHL in FOW% - worst team in the league

Pittsburgh is 4th worst in the NHL in FOW% - tied for best record in the NHL

4 out of the 5 worst faceoff teams are in playoff position. 2 of the 5 best faceoff teams are in playoff position
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:34 PM ET
Were you team Hinkie?
- PhillySportsGuy

yea but eventually it was time to make a run
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
it's been almost 10 years since we've had a real good team it's time
- 2Real



Huh, in 2010 they got 2 wins away from the cup..
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:40 PM ET
Huh, in 2010 they got 2 wins away from the cup..
- opeth_pa

it's 2017 we're approaching 10 years
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
it's 2017 we're approaching 10 years
- 2Real



got it so 7 seasons is almost 10.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:48 PM ET
Back to regularly scheduled programming...random stats

Colorado is 2nd in the NHL in FOW% - worst team in the league

Pittsburgh is 4th worst in the NHL in FOW% - tied for best record in the NHL

4 out of the 5 worst faceoff teams are in playoff position. 2 of the 5 best faceoff teams are in playoff position

- YuenglingJagr


sigh....alternative facts. Every playoff team needs a 4th line pk specialist who plays on one half of the ice if they intend on going anywhere. And they need to be scooped up day 1 of ufa they sell out like hotcakes
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 8:48 PM ET
You better have typed that out instead of copy and pasting. That stat is proprietary
- YuenglingJagr

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
If that was true, you'd be responding differently.

http://www.cbssports.com/...alytics-give-team-leg-up/


“What we do is different,” Bowman told the Sun-Times. “I think it’s better, but I guess it’s a matter of opinion. It’s also a competitive advantage. That stuff’s readily available, but what we have is more proprietary. Which is why I’m really trying not to talk about it. I think what we do gives us an advantage over other teams. They might say I’m wrong, but we’re pretty confident that what we have works.”

- MJL






oooooooohhhhhhh
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:57 PM ET
Back to regularly scheduled programming...random stats

Colorado is 2nd in the NHL in FOW% - worst team in the league

Pittsburgh is 4th worst in the NHL in FOW% - tied for best record in the NHL

4 out of the 5 worst faceoff teams are in playoff position. 2 of the 5 best faceoff teams are in playoff position

- YuenglingJagr


We're 6th best lol. And Boyd barely did anything. Took 86 out of over 4000
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