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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 5:45 PM ET
lol, thanks
- Scoob

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 14 @ 5:45 PM ET


I get a kick out of all the hypochondriacs acting like someone criticizing the coach or a specific move by the GM as throwing the baby out with the bath water.

If a player is criticized it doesn't make the GM garbage.

If the coach is criticized for a move someone doesnt like, it doesn't make the coach garbage.

Are there extremists on both sides, sure, but i didn't find today's posts to be all of one side or the other.

In fact, i think, most people are in the middle, still on board with the process but not sure about a specific signing or a player who they would prefer play or not play.

This is a discussion board and the majority come on here to BS or to give our POV.

Could we be wrong, outside of YuenglingJagr, yes we could be wrong.

People need to relax. Take a step back.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 5:47 PM ET
Alex Ovetchkin will not reach 40 this season.
- SuperSchennBros


Agreed - and this puts a dent in his (slim, imho) chances to catch Gretzky.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 5:48 PM ET
I get a kick out of all the hypochondriacs acting like someone criticizing the coach or a specific move by the GM as throwing the baby out with the bath water.

If a player is criticized it doesn't make the GM garbage.

If the coach is criticized for a move someone doesnt like, it doesn't make the coach garbage.

Are there extremists on both sides, sure, but i didn't find today's posts to be all of one side or the other.

In fact, i think, most people are in the middle, still on board with the process but not sure about a specific signing or a player who they would prefer play or not play.

This is a discussion board and the majority come on here to BS or to give our POV.

Could we be wrong, outside of YuenglingJagr, yes we could be wrong.

People need to relax. Take a step back.

- ggunky


Its cool. I get it. People get invested into a team, it kind of becomes a part of you.

Its tough to not only see them suck ass, but to have others call them out. The fan inside just wants to say 'Lets go Flyers'.

I dunno. Whatever.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 5:48 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


Calling yourself a winner on the internet...lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 5:49 PM ET
Yeah.

I just think they could do so much better. That's what's a little upsetting I guess. Stevens, Berube and Hak? Really? That's the best this club can do?

Everyone and the pimple on their ass wants a proper and patient rebuild. Yet it's the same retool nonsense. Trying to stay competitive while rebuilding. Wtf. I disagree with not dealing some of the core guys for future pieces when they will be irrelevant in the future anyway and they obviously aren't good enough. When the need for top tier young talent is so evident. As well as this love affair with fourth liners that wouldn't make any top tier club. Instead of giving their ice time to Laughton, Leier or whoever the (frank). It's the principle.

Again, at the end of the day. (frank) it. Flyers gunna Flyer, for better or worse.

- flyer_nutter


Have you ever seen the commercials for life lock? Such as the dentist who says you have a bad cavity, but isn't going to fix it, because he is just a cavity monitor? That's the equivalent of the posts you offer. Always throwing around generalities such as they have to do a proper rebuild, as if there is such a clear blueprint for that in the fluid world of the NHL. Or Flyers gunna flyer. I don't see how you can't recognize that what Hextall is doing is completely different than the Flyers approach of the past. I'd like to know what do you consider a proper rebuild? There are many factors that go into when a young player earns a promotion to the NHL. The key word there is earns. Not sure what the principle you refer to is, unless it is just random non specific statements made from a constant pessimistic view with no substance or actual suggestion or alternative plan offered. You disagree with not dealing away some of the core guys without considering that the right deal has to be available, unless you have the principle of just trade them to trade them. Hextall's entire focus since he has become GM is to build for the future, and to not be willing to sacrifice it in any way for now, yet you claim that the need for top tier talent is so evident, as if Hextall doesn't see that. None of it makes any sense nor is it representative of the way the Flyers are actually approaching building the team.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 5:50 PM ET
Have you ever seen the commercials for life lock? Such as the dentist who says you have a bad cavity, but isn't going to fix it, because he is just a cavity monitor? That's the equivalent of the posts you offer. Always throwing around generalities such as they have to do a proper rebuild, as if there is such a clear blueprint for that in the fluid world of the NHL. Or Flyers gunna flyer. I don't see how you can't recognize that what Hextall is doing is completely different than the Flyers approach of the past. I'd like to know what do you consider a proper rebuild? There are many factors that go into when a young player earns a promotion to the NHL. The key word there is earns. Not sure what the principle you refer to is, unless it is just random non specific statements made from a constant pessimistic view with no substance or actual suggestion or alternative plan offered. You disagree with not dealing away some of the core guys without considering that the right deal has to be available, unless you have the principle of just trade them to trade them. Hextall's entire focus since he has become GM is to build for the future, and to not be willing to sacrifice it in any way for now, yet you claim that the need for top tier talent is so evident, as if Hextall doesn't see that. None of it makes any sense nor is it representative of the way the Flyers are actually approaching building the team.
- MJL


Too long. No seperation. I'm growing apathetic to you as well. For whatever thats worth. I think you're too invested into this team. It's a little overkill.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 5:53 PM ET
Days like today happen when lots of us are working from home because of the great blizzard of 17....where we got about 3 inches of snow in Center City.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Too long. No seperation. I'm growing apathetic to you as well. For whatever thats worth. I think you're too invested into this team. It's a little overkill.
- flyer_nutter


It's not overkill, it's simply the truth.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Have you ever seen the commercials for life lock? Such as the dentist who says you have a bad cavity, but isn't going to fix it, because he is just a cavity monitor? That's the equivalent of the posts you offer. Always throwing around generalities such as they have to do a proper rebuild, as if there is such a clear blueprint for that in the fluid world of the NHL. Or Flyers gunna flyer. I don't see how you can't recognize that what Hextall is doing is completely different than the Flyers approach of the past. I'd like to know what do you consider a proper rebuild? There are many factors that go into when a young player earns a promotion to the NHL. The key word there is earns. Not sure what the principle you refer to is, unless it is just random non specific statements made from a constant pessimistic view with no substance or actual suggestion or alternative plan offered. You disagree with not dealing away some of the core guys without considering that the right deal has to be available, unless you have the principle of just trade them to trade them. Hextall's entire focus since he has become GM is to build for the future, and to not be willing to sacrifice it in any way for now, yet you claim that the need for top tier talent is so evident, as if Hextall doesn't see that. None of it makes any sense nor is it representative of the way the Flyers are actually approaching building the team.
- MJL



flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 5:56 PM ET
It's not overkill, it's simply the truth.

- MJL


Cool?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 5:56 PM ET
I think it is completely fair to question certain motives of his while wholeheartedly praising what he has done through the draft and the mindset of franchise

I get who you're talking about but not everyone's entire viewpoint needs to come out in each post

- YuenglingJagr


Every criticism needs to be sandwiched between two compliments
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 6:03 PM ET
Too long. No seperation. I'm growing apathetic to you as well. For whatever thats worth. I think you're too invested into this team. It's a little overkill.
- flyer_nutter



So people who may love a sport and sports team is overkill? if you aren't all the vested good for you. I happen to be passion about the sport as I play, and play a lot, go to games and watch hockey almost every night. Sorry if that is overkill to you. I love the game
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 14 @ 6:03 PM ET
Every criticism needs to be sandwiched between two compliments
- PhillySportsGuy


You are allowed NO critiques or complaints, even if you have well thought arguments, unless:

1) you gain access to the team's secret stats by hiring the Mission Impossible team

2) the team has already made a decision, thus allowing you to agree with them and pretend what they have done is now right but was also right before

3) a certain poster on this board say so

4) you have postgame quotes from a player or coach
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 6:05 PM ET
So people who may love a sport and sports team is overkill? if you aren't all the vested good for you. I happen to be passion about the sport as I play, and play a lot, go to games and watch hockey almost every night. Sorry if that is overkill to you. I love the game
- nastyflyergirl


Meh.

I think the folks that can't handle any criticism. Whatever, its a message board.

Go Flyerzzzz, superfans unite. People need to calm down. Its weird.
Bonerfide69
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North Pole
Joined: 01.31.2017

Mar 14 @ 6:06 PM ET
Every criticism needs to be sandwiched between two compliments
- PhillySportsGuy

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 6:07 PM ET
You are allowed NO critiques or complaints, even if you have well thought arguments, unless:

1) you gain access to the team's secret stats by hiring the Mission Impossible team

2) the team has already made a decision, thus allowing you to agree with them and pretend what they have done is now right but was also right before

3) a certain poster on this board say so

4) you have postgame quotes from a player or coach

- Mononoke


S2TP?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 6:09 PM ET
Meh.

I think the folks that can't handle any criticism. Whatever, its a message board.

Go Flyerzzzz, superfans unite. People need to calm down. Its weird.

- flyer_nutter


Any knowledgeable fan has no problem with legitimate and reasonable criticism, and there certainly are some. It's the babble which is what 90% or so of the criticism levied against both Hakstol and to a lesser extent Hextall, that I find issue with.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 6:09 PM ET

- Bonerfide69

Love Gordon Ramsay
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 6:09 PM ET
You are allowed NO critiques or complaints, even if you have well thought arguments, unless:

1) you gain access to the team's secret stats by hiring the Mission Impossible team

2) the team has already made a decision, thus allowing you to agree with them and pretend what they have done is now right but was also right before

3) a certain poster on this board say so

4) you have postgame quotes from a player or coach

- Mononoke


I still love the secret stats idea
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 6:10 PM ET
S2TP?
- YuenglingJagr


See this is what I come here for. Stupid random humor.

It's just so easy to get sucked into the BS. You scroll through and one person dares to say a bad thing and the superfans cry then lose their poop. Wooo awhh ma gawd, this team is sooo good!

Whatever, good day and good hockey.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 6:10 PM ET
See this is what I come here for. Stupid random humor.

It's just so easy to get sucked into the BS. You scroll through and one person dares to say a bad thing and the superfans cry then lose their poop. Wooo awhh ma gawd, this team is sooo good!

Whatever, good day and good hockey.

- flyer_nutter


(frank)ing snowflakes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 6:12 PM ET
I still love the secret stats idea
- PhillySportsGuy


NHL GM's such as Stan Bowman don't call them secret, they use a term such as proprietary.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 6:13 PM ET
Any knowledgeable fan has no problem with legitimate and reasonable criticism, and there certainly are some. It's the babble which is what 90% or so of the criticism levied against both Hakstol and to a lesser extent Hextall, that I find issue with.
- MJL


Meh. I just think you're kind of a loser brah. Love ya sometimes, but its just weird. Really weird.

Too 'into it'. Cry when folks call you or the team out, but the first to jump in. By all means. The passive aggressive game is honestly what I expect out of 17 year old high school chicks. I dont respect dudes like that.



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 14 @ 6:14 PM ET
NHL GM's such as Stan Bowman don't call them secret, they use a term such as proprietary.
- MJL


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