opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Hextall takes the farm system from a close to league worst to top 5. He's gone from being celebrated as a God during WJC in December to a questionable talent evaluator in March.
Because all the Message board GMs see things he clearly can't see. All the resources he has access to are clearly failing him and his multi million dollar operation. - Baxter27
Yup, pretty much sums it up...
Message Board GM's know way more than Hexy does right now and if you dont agree with that then you are a company man.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Hextall takes the farm system from a close to league worst to top 5. He's gone from being celebrated as a God during WJC in December to a questionable talent evaluator in March.
Because all the Message board GMs see things he clearly can't see. All the resources he has access to are clearly failing him and his multi million dollar operation. - Baxter27
That about sums it up! The expert talent evaluators and team builders are not actually employed in the NHL. They're waiting patiently on message boards, waiting to be discovered with analytic spread sheets in hand. Just like that woman at the STH meeting who told Hakstol how it is. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I think the Flyers philosophy over the last years has been to get their best players off of the PK, so they can use them more in scoring situations. This could work if your 4th liners were actually good PKers. In reality, it's probably best to use guys like Couturier and Simmonds more, and form a 4th line that will contribute more at even strength. - PhillySportsGuy
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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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You and Nutter are my Alternate Captains! Much stronger than that stiff Bellemare! - PLindbergh31
It's good to feel wanted |
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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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That about sums it up! The expert talent evaluators and team builders are not actually employed in the NHL. They're waiting patiently on message boards, waiting to be discovered with analytic spread sheets in hand. Just like that woman at the STH meeting who told Hakstol how it is. - MJL
Hakstol...Way in over his head....The Buzz told me so.
10 years at North Dakota developing a premier NCAA Hockey program?...pffff..didn't win a championship or anything. What does he know about developing young hockey players? |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Hakstol...Way in over his head....The Buzz told me so.
10 years at North Dakota developing a premier NCAA Hockey program?...pffff..didn't win a championship or anything. What does he know about developing young hockey players? - Baxter27
Nothing. Not to mention he doesn't understand that low percentage point shots, and dump and chase hockey is not the way to win.
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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Hextall takes the farm system from a close to league worst to top 5. He's gone from being celebrated as a God during WJC in December to a questionable talent evaluator in March.
Because all the Message board GMs see things he clearly can't see. All the resources he has access to are clearly failing him and his multi million dollar operation. - Baxter27
He was also praised for moving Coburn for Gudas and a first, ridding themselves of Vinny/Schenn and Pronger without having to give away picks but now questionable for one iffy UFA signing in Weise (Gordon is insignificant) and re-signing PEB and Neuvy. I believe he has a plan and I believe said plan is going to take time. I'm excited that two of his draft picks are already in the NHL and Lindblom very well could be next year too. I have a lot of hope in some of Holmgren's draft picks too in Morin, Sanheim, Hagg and Leier being ready next year. I don't believe everything he does has been a hit but I believe this organization is headed in the right direction but is going to take a little time |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Hextall takes the farm system from a close to league worst to top 5. He's gone from being celebrated as a God during WJC in December to a questionable talent evaluator in March.
Because all the Message board GMs see things he clearly can't see. All the resources he has access to are clearly failing him and his multi million dollar operation. - Baxter27
Hextall has a done a very good job, even though I would say the jury is still out on Hak. His only other poor moves, IMO, are signing and overpaying Weise and overpaying PEB a bit. |
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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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Yup, pretty much sums it up...
Message Board GM's know way more than Hexy does right now and if you dont agree with that then you are a company man. - opeth_pa
Can't be a fan anymore. Only a critic. To every single member of the organization. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Hakstol...Way in over his head....The Buzz told me so.
10 years at North Dakota developing a premier NCAA Hockey program?...pffff..didn't win a championship or anything. What does he know about developing young hockey players? - Baxter27
I'm going to reserve judgement on Hak after I see what he can do with a better roster. To claim he's a good coach or a bad coach at this point would be tough to do. Like most NHL coaches, he has his plusses and minuses. There aren't a whole lot of Scotty Bowmans to go around, most coaches have faults and most have a shelf life. It's the nature of the profession |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I'm going to reserve judgement on Hak after I see what he can do with a better roster. To claim he's a good coach or a bad coach at this point would be tough to do. Like most NHL coaches, he has his plusses and minuses. There aren't a whole lot of Scotty Bowmans to go around, most coaches have faults and most have a shelf life. It's the nature of the profession - BiggE
Outstanding. A very reasonable and well thought out statement on Hakstol that I'm in complete agreement with. Not sure if it is allowed on here, but I like it.
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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He was also praised for moving Coburn for Gudas and a first, ridding themselves of Vinny/Schenn and Pronger without having to give away picks but now questionable for one iffy UFA signing in Weise (Gordon is insignificant) and re-signing PEB and Neuvy. I believe he has a plan and I believe said plan is going to take time. I'm excited that two of his draft picks are already in the NHL and Lindblom very well could be next year too. I have a lot of hope in some of Holmgren's draft picks too in Morin, Sanheim, Hagg and Leier being ready next year. I don't believe everything he does has been a hit but I believe this organization is headed in the right direction but is going to take a little time - nastyflyergirl
He's also seemed adept at finding talent in later rounds and signing Myers may go down as his shrewdest move of all.
Honestly, if signing Dale Weise is the worst thing he ever does, he's going to be extremely successful |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Outstanding. A very reasonable and well thought out statement on Hakstol that I'm in complete agreement with. Not sure if it is allowed on here, but I like it. - MJL
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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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Hextall has a done a very good job, even though I would say the jury is still out on Hak. His only other poor moves, IMO, are signing and overpaying Weise and overpaying PEB a bit. - BiggE
I'd argue and it's pure opinion that his biggest mistake may be letting Mason go. Which is yet to be realised. But that's with me knowing very little about what's happening behind the scene.
I agree that the jury is still out on HAK but his qualifications and the justification to hire him were solid.
Weise has let a lot of people down this year, including himself. The move hasn't worked out but I still have hope he can contribute going forward. Not going to get into this with his critics.
I don't agree with the role they're using PEB in but I'm beer league's Mike Knuble. What the hell do I know? |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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You and Nutter are my Alternate Captains! Much stronger than that stiff Bellemare! - PLindbergh31
Honorary member.
I really don't care enough to be fully involved. If people want to compare penis sizes over a poopty sports team by all means. The apathy has set in far too much.
They will be better. Eventually. More important things to life, and more fun things. This club hasn't been fun for a long time, and the lack of full commitment to a proper rebuild with a POS HC - makes me question. So be it.
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I'd argue and it's pure opinion that his biggest mistake may be letting Mason go. Which is yet to be realised. But that's with me knowing very little about what's happening behind the scene.
I agree that the jury is still out on HAK but his qualifications and the justification to hire him were solid.
Weise has let a lot of people down this year, including himself. The move hasn't worked out but I still have hope he can contribute going forward. Not going to get into this with his critics.
I don't agree with the role they're using PEB in but I'm beer league's Mike Knuble. What the hell do I know? - Baxter27
I remember that 2nd OT winner by Knuble agains Huet and the Caps. That was a fun time. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I'd argue and it's pure opinion that his biggest mistake may be letting Mason go. Which is yet to be realised. But that's with me knowing very little about what's happening behind the scene.
I agree that the jury is still out on HAK but his qualifications and the justification to hire him were solid.
Weise has let a lot of people down this year, including himself. The move hasn't worked out but I still have hope he can contribute going forward. Not going to get into this with his critics.
I don't agree with the role they're using PEB in but I'm beer league's Mike Knuble. What the hell do I know? - Baxter27
I like Mason for the most part, but I'm ready to move on. I wouldnt mind a guy like Ryan Miller brought in on a 1 year deal. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I'm willing to give Hak the benefit of the doubt this year. I don't like the way he's handled Ghost and TK at times but as far as results it's kind of hard to make the playoffs when the guy who carries the team completely disappears and both goalies​ on the roster are Swiss cheese.
I'm not sure why today turned into "the franchise is doomed from top to bottom" day but I'm sure we'll make a trade or two that makes sense and draft a promising player or two. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I'm willing to give Hak the benefit of the doubt this year. I don't like the way he's handled Ghost and TK at times but as far as results it's kind of hard to make the playoffs when the guy who carries the team completely disappears and both goalies​ on the roster are Swiss cheese.
I'm not sure why today turned into "the franchise is doomed from top to bottom" day but I'm sure we'll make a trade or two that makes sense and draft a promising player or two. - hereticpride
Yeah.
I just think they could do so much better. That's what's a little upsetting I guess. Stevens, Berube and Hak? Really? That's the best this club can do?
Everyone and the pimple on their ass wants a proper and patient rebuild. Yet it's the same retool nonsense. Trying to stay competitive while rebuilding. Wtf. I disagree with not dealing some of the core guys for future pieces when they will be irrelevant in the future anyway and they obviously aren't good enough. When the need for top tier young talent is so evident. As well as this love affair with fourth liners that wouldn't make any top tier club. Instead of giving their ice time to Laughton, Leier or whoever the (frank). It's the principle.
Again, at the end of the day. (frank) it. Flyers gunna Flyer, for better or worse. |
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Bonerfide69
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: North Pole Joined: 01.31.2017
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My list of issues with the team that I put before PEB
1. Decline of Giroux
2. Weak goaltending from Neuvy and Mason
2. Inconsistency by Jake and Schenn
3. Disappointing season by Coots
4. Sophomore slump by Ghost
5. Lack of jam, sandpaper , toughness
6. Lack of size
7. Lack of faith by Plind
8. HAK
9. Walking Dead VdV
10. PEB - opeth_pa
1. Hak
2. No 5v5 production
2. Inconsistency by Jake and Schenn
3. Should have dumped Couts after that 10 game win streak
4.Boruk suits
5. Giroux fiance
6. Lack of size and skill
7. Hak
8. HAK
9. Walking Dead VdV Weise Gordon
10. Boruk |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I like Mason for the most part, but I'm ready to move on. I wouldnt mind a guy like Ryan Miller brought in on a 1 year deal. - BiggE
That goal by Werenski yesterday was a killer. He should have had that.
Love Mason, but I can't blame them for wanting to go elsewhere. I get the sense the club wants a true elite #1 tender.
If its me, I still bring him back. Give Stolarz more games and lets see if Mason can rebound.
With that signing of Neuvirth - and apparently the no communication b/w agent/GM I think Steve's time is done in Philadelphia. He's been very fun to watch at times. Would be so happy for him if he got a contract in Calgary, think a team like that - truly on the rise could help his career. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Rosita can go (frank) herself - Mononoke
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I am fine with that, you are entitled to your opinion. But some of us are winners in life and some well not so lucky. - joegreif17
lol, thanks |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Hextall takes the farm system from a close to league worst to top 5. He's gone from being celebrated as a God during WJC in December to a questionable talent evaluator in March.
Because all the Message board GMs see things he clearly can't see. All the resources he has access to are clearly failing him and his multi million dollar operation. - Baxter27
I think it is completely fair to question certain motives of his while wholeheartedly praising what he has done through the draft and the mindset of franchise
I get who you're talking about but not everyone's entire viewpoint needs to come out in each post |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I like Mason for the most part, but I'm ready to move on. I wouldnt mind a guy like Ryan Miller brought in on a 1 year deal. - BiggE
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