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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Will Buffalo have room for Evander Kane and a d-man like Shattenkirk?
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:37 PM ET
I mean, I use my microwave a lot, to make popcorn, or hot pockets, or pretzels, not chicken wings.
- Wetbandit1


I prolly use the toaster oven more than the microwave.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:50 PM ET
I see Hudson Fasching called up today. Last game he played for the Sabres was Oct 30th
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
I'm talking about the fact that they proved they can win or contend before they locked 50 million into their core long term.

Of course it's doable, but what's the point if you can't contend for a cup ?

- sbroads24




I get what you're saying...
but we could apply that argument to anyone then
The only obvious "for sure" core members are Jack and Risto

So while we're waiting for this team to "prove it can win"
do we sign NO ONE else to big $$$ deals?

Trade Kane or Sam (or whoever) for ______ (defenseman)
That defenseman still joins your "unproven" team

We can't be afraid to spend $$$ and make moves just bc we haven't won the Cup yet


Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:31 PM ET
I get what you're saying...
but we could apply that argument to anyone then
The only obvious "for sure" core members are Jack and Risto

So while we're waiting for this team to "prove it can win"
do we sign NO ONE else to big $$$ deals?

Trade Kane or Sam (or whoever) for ______ (defenseman)
That defenseman still joins your "unproven" team

We can't be afraid to spend $$$ and make moves just bc we haven't won the Cup yet

- jdfitz77


Uh oh.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 10:35 PM ET
Damn Jaccob Slavin if only we could have drafted him in the first round

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 10:39 PM ET
I get what you're saying...
but we could apply that argument to anyone then
The only obvious "for sure" core members are Jack and Risto

So while we're waiting for this team to "prove it can win"
do we sign NO ONE else to big $$$ deals?

Trade Kane or Sam (or whoever) for ______ (defenseman)
That defenseman still joins your "unproven" team

We can't be afraid to spend $$$ and make moves just bc we haven't won the Cup yet

- jdfitz77

YOu can apply it to everyone. You don't lock up a team full of players that haven't come close to winning anything. I can't think of a team that has.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:03 PM ET
YOu can apply it to everyone. You don't lock up a team full of players that haven't come close to winning anything. I can't think of a team that has.
- sbroads24



Ok....

So what do we do?

Trade for Lindholm? What has he won?

Also...
I think your theory has a faulty premise

When Kane & Toews, etc were paid is inconsequential...
what mattered is that they were the RIGHT players

So the argument should just be about whether Kane (or anyone else) is a player that's gonna help us win to the point that we can be contenders

For example...
Franson- obviously we don't need to pay him, he's average at best
Jack- of course we extend him, he's awesome

But we can't NOT spend $$$ on players just bc the current construct of the group hasn't "won anything yet"

We just have to make sure we spend the $$$ on the right guys
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:07 PM ET
These kind?



They're so bad but they're so good

- chilliard77


Oh yeah.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:08 PM ET
I prolly use the toaster oven more than the microwave.
- cabin


I just use the oven if I'm at the point of using a toaster oven.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Mar 13 @ 11:10 PM ET
YOu can apply it to everyone. You don't lock up a team full of players that haven't come close to winning anything. I can't think of a team that has.
- sbroads24


You're saying you don't lock up the SAME team of players that haven't won anything. Correct?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 11:12 PM ET
Ok....

So what do we do?

Trade for Lindholm? What has he won?

Also...
I think your theory has a faulty premise

When Kane & Toews, etc were paid is inconsequential...
what mattered is that they were the RIGHT players

So the argument should just be about whether Kane (or anyone else) is a player that's gonna help us win to the point that we can be contenders

For example...
Franson- obviously we don't need to pay him, he's average at best
Jack- of course we extend him, he's awesome

But we can't NOT spend $$$ on players just bc the current construct of the group hasn't "won anything yet"

We just have to make sure we spend the $$$ on the right guys

- jdfitz77

I don't know to be honest. I do know that Jack and Sam will get paid, and then finding defense would be the #1 priority.

Kane can wait. There should be 0 rush extending him. I'd explore what he wants, if it's 6-8 years, I'm seeing what he gets back in a trade.

At least if you add a D man you have to pay, you are somewhat balanced instead of investing in 5 big $$ forwards while the D is atrocious
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:17 PM ET
I don't know to be honest. I do know that Jack and Sam will get paid, and then finding defense would be the #1 priority.

Kane can wait. There should be 0 rush extending him. I'd explore what he wants, if it's 6-8 years, I'm seeing what he gets back in a trade.

At least if you add a D man you have to pay, you are somewhat balanced instead of investing in 5 big $$ forwards while the D is atrocious

- sbroads24




Everything u said is fair, but...
the entire point is that we can pay Kane, AND fix the defense

So the only real discussion should be whether or not we want Kane as part of the "core"
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 11:22 PM ET
Oh yeah.
- Wetbandit1


Those are the best in the microwave just the right amount of softness but if you go 10 seconds over your (frank)ed
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 11:23 PM ET
The good old days where my mom made me chicken.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:28 PM ET
I just use the oven if I'm at the point of using a toaster oven.
- Wetbandit1



Toaster ovens are great!

Earlier tonight i reheated a meatball sub (from LaNova, it was amazing)
Why fire up the entire oven just for half a sub?
or a variety of other smaller food items...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:30 PM ET
The good old days where my mom made me chicken.


- GERBE!!!75PTS




Looks delicious
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 11:38 PM ET
Looks delicious
- jdfitz77

I will tell her lol

My mom has been stuffing me like a pig right now lol
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Mar 13 @ 11:38 PM ET
Oh yeah.
- Wetbandit1

Ohhh yeeaaah
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 11:39 PM ET
The good old days where my mom made me chicken.


- GERBE!!!75PTS

What country is that Goulash from?
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Mar 13 @ 11:41 PM ET
I see Hudson Fasching called up today. Last game he played for the Sabres was Oct 30th
- cabin


That's kind of funny because he made the team, he was supposed to be here all year.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:49 PM ET
What country is that Goulash from?
- sbroads24



Well, it's gulyás(ghoul-yash). And it's traditionally from Hungary, capital is Budapest(buddha-pesht). Fun fact(s), it's actually 2 cities, Buda and Pest, split in the middle by the Danube river. The Romans knew it as Aquincum. The language spoken, Magyar, is closer to Mongolian than any European language.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 11:50 PM ET
Everything u said is fair, but...
the entire point is that we can pay Kane, AND fix the defense

So the only real discussion should be whether or not we want Kane as part of the "core"

- jdfitz77

How do we fix the D without including one of the core?

Would you rather have a guy like Nylander or Kane?

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:51 PM ET
Toaster ovens are great!

Earlier tonight i reheated a meatball sub (from LaNova, it was amazing)
Why fire up the entire oven just for half a sub?
or a variety of other smaller food items...

- jdfitz77


I'm very utilitarian, why have 2 appliances that have the same function?

But seriously, I do find them kind of pointless, I know they're bigger now than they used to be, but they used to be so tiny as to be almost pointless.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 11:53 PM ET
Well, it's gulyás(ghoul-yash). And it's traditionally from Hungary, capital is Budapest(buddha-pesht). Fun fact(s), it's actually 2 cities, Buda and Pest, split in the middle by the Danube river. The Romans knew it as Aquincum. The language spoken, Magyar, is closer to Mongolian than any European language.


- Wetbandit1

Is it elite? It's one of my personal favorites, but I like it with Tomato sauce
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:55 PM ET
The good old days where my mom made me chicken.


- GERBE!!!75PTS



That does look fantastic.
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