Giroux with/without AMac this season:

with: 52.69 CF/60, 47.8% CF%
without: 65.18 CF/60, 54.3% CF%

The without statline would be objectively top 20 amongst NHL forwards... 65+ CF/60 is elite, like top 10 in NHL elite.


and bigger sample

Giroux with/without AMac since 14-15
with: 55.67 CF/60, 48.5% CF, 1.67 GF/60, 40.4% GF%
without: 63.2 CF/60, 53.6% CF, 2.20 GF/60, 50.5% GF%


Yeh, Provorov has seen 60% of his TOI with AMac:

With: 51.51 CF/60, 47.2 CF%
Without: 58.94 CF/60, 52.8 CF%





No wonder Giroux can't score he is always killing penalties when Andrew MacDonald is on the ice

Hextall is in charge of acquisitions, so snowstorms are on him
- YuenglingJagr

That would insinuate that Hextall wanted this snowstorm and had a choice, so I'd say no on that.

Hextall acquires the snow, but Hakstol is in charge of how and when to deploy it.
- jmatchett383

He could scratch the snow!

Missing the net for this team doesn't matter they wanna win most missed shots ever cup.

He could scratch the snow!
- MJL

Giroux with/without AMac this season:

with: 52.69 CF/60, 47.8% CF%
without: 65.18 CF/60, 54.3% CF%

The without statline would be objectively top 20 amongst NHL forwards... 65+ CF/60 is elite, like top 10 in NHL elite.

He could scratch the snow!
- MJL

Hakstol is deploying the snow, but I hear it mostly likely will go wide and miss us.

Giroux with/without AMac this season:

with: 52.69 CF/60, 47.8% CF%
without: 65.18 CF/60, 54.3% CF%

The without statline would be objectively top 20 amongst NHL forwards... 65+ CF/60 is elite, like top 10 in NHL elite.


and bigger sample

Giroux with/without AMac since 14-15
with: 55.67 CF/60, 48.5% CF, 1.67 GF/60, 40.4% GF%
without: 63.2 CF/60, 53.6% CF, 2.20 GF/60, 50.5% GF%


Yeh, Provorov has seen 60% of his TOI with AMac:

With: 51.51 CF/60, 47.2 CF%
Without: 58.94 CF/60, 52.8 CF%
- Flyers Time

I don't understand any of this. But what I believe it says is that AMac is not good.

It was, I apologize. Flyers pepper Bobrovsky tonight, he's pulled in the 2nd.
- MJL

Still gets a shutout though cause we miss the net.

Missing the net for this team doesn't matter they wanna win most missed shots ever cup.
- Konalover

In that case, wouldn't it matter?

I don't understand any of this. But what I believe it says is that AMac is not good.
- mickel25

He makes everyone around him worse

Circa Matt Carle 2010 who is currently retired cause nobody else wanted him.

Doesn't change that it was Hextall's call. Things can change from one year to the next.
- MJL

We did get a faceoff guy to help G and Weisse instead...

He makes everyone around him worse

Circa Matt Carle 2010
- Flyers Time

What's his +/-?

What's his +/-?
- jmatchett383

+Chris Pronger

+Chris Pronger
- Flyers Time

Awesome.

Is there any hope Mason pitches a shutout and we go on a 13-1-1 run or gets shelled and we go 3-8-4.

Sam gagner the new patrick sharp.

Sam gagner the new patrick sharp.
- JoeRussomanno

At least we got a bag of pucks and matt ellison from them...

+Chris Pronger
- Flyers Time

I was just thinking this morning: Can you truly compare any player to Chris Pronger (besides Sam Morin)?

When you have guys like Provorov, or Doughty, or Karlsson, or other top-end defensemen coming into the league, it's always he's the next Coffey/Niedermayer/Stevens and that, while all these players are great, I don't think there's any player past or present that can be compared to Pronger. He was big, mean, won a Hart Trophyy, went to 3 Finals, and was dominant for a good 12 or so years. Chara was in the same category, but not for as long.

Is there any hope Mason pitches a shutout and we go on a 13-1-1 run or gets shelled and we go 3-8-4.
- Konalover

Yes

Is there any hope Mason pitches a shutout and we go on a 13-1-1 run or gets shelled and we go 3-8-4.
- Konalover

I feel like you aren't factoring in starts for Neuvirth

I was just thinking this morning: Can you truly compare any player to Chris Pronger (besides Sam Morin)?

When you have guys like Provorov, or Doughty, or Karlsson, or other top-end defensemen coming into the league, it's always he's the next Coffey/Niedermayer/Stevens and that, while all these players are great, I don't think there's any player past or present that can be compared to Pronger. He was big, mean, won a Hart Trophyy, went to 3 Finals, and was dominant for a good 12 or so years. Chara was in the same category, but not for as long.
- jmatchett383

I miss him so much. Why was he the only person to call out the media for what it was.

I miss him so much. Why was he the only person to call out the media for what it was.
- Flyers Time

He did it, and the media loved him.

Richards did it, and the media hated him.

Is there any hope Mason pitches a shutout and we go on a 13-1-1 run or gets shelled and we go 3-8-4.
- Konalover

I'll take the over.

He did it, and the media loved him.

Richards did it, and the media hated him.
- jmatchett383

Mike Richards one year league minimum for 3rd line center.

I was just thinking this morning: Can you truly compare any player to Chris Pronger (besides Sam Morin)?

When you have guys like Provorov, or Doughty, or Karlsson, or other top-end defensemen coming into the league, it's always he's the next Coffey/Niedermayer/Stevens and that, while all these players are great, I don't think there's any player past or present that can be compared to Pronger. He was big, mean, won a Hart Trophyy, went to 3 Finals, and was dominant for a good 12 or so years. Chara was in the same category, but not for as long.
- jmatchett383

The whole puck in the trash thing made him my hero. He was such a giant D-bag and I loved it.