Yeah Provorov is really setting expectations high for those who will follow him. I'm especially concerned about Myers. Expectations are quickly becoming sky high for him. Though I'm excited about his potential, I doubt his transition and development will be anything close to as smooth as Provorov's has been.
- Baxter27

At least if he sucks we wont hear people complain about him

At least if he sucks we wont hear people complain about him
- YuenglingJagr

Good point.

Yeah Provorov is really setting expectations high for those who will follow him. I'm especially concerned about Myers. Expectations are quickly becoming sky high for him. Though I'm excited about his potential, I doubt his transition and development will be anything close to as smooth as Provorov's has been.
- Baxter27

The Flyers didn't even expend a draft pick on Myers. I'd bet a lot of Flyers fans don't even know who Phillipe Myers even is. They'd recognize Sanheim's name and even Hagg's name, because they were drafted by the organization.

If you want to be worried for a Flyers defensive prospect, with respect to fan expectations, be worried for Morin.

My worked closed tomorrow. Paid to stay home.
- J35Bacher

I work for a healthcare system. We don't close for a snow storm. We just camp out

We're spoiled by the play of Provorov as a 19 year old defenseman in the NHL, and how efficient he is. We should expect a lot more growing pains from other young defenseman who are added the lineup. Similar to Gostisbehere and the breakdown of the fundamentals in his defensive play this season.
- MJL

Can't wait til Hagg, Sanheim and Morin all have their struggles and the bust panic starts. we have been spoiled with the amazing poise and limited struggles Provorov has had. its been pretty remarkable really

Saying that the team always makes the wrong decision is wrong.

Saying that the team always makes the right decision is wrong.
- jmatchett383

This is Team Utopia and something we all need.

I work for a healthcare system. We don't close for a snow storm. We just camp out
- dragonoffrost

I work in bankruptcy.

My wife works in forensic science industry. Her work never closes because there are always dead people

I work in bankruptcy.

My wife works in forensic science industry. Her work never closes because there are always dead people
- J35Bacher

Oh there are so many one liners that can come from this post

There's a game tonight.

There's a game tonight.
- Mononoke

Sam Gagner bobblehead night

Sam Carchidi‏Verified account @BroadStBull now45 seconds ago

Nick Cousins (one goal in last 20 games), will be replaced tonight by Roman Lyubimov (one goal in last 23 games) for #Flyers.


I wonder how many goals Bellemare has in his last 20 games.

There's a game tonight.
- Mononoke

There is???? I guess there will be a lot of empty seats.

Sam Carchidi‏Verified account @BroadStBull now45 seconds ago

Nick Cousins (one goal in last 20 games), will be replaced tonight by Roman Lyubimov (one goal in last 23 games) for #Flyers.


I wonder how many goals Bellemare has in his last 20 games.
- PLindbergh31

I feel like you already know the answer to that

Sam Gagner bobblehead night
- YuenglingJagr

PSG was dealing earlier

I feel like you already know the answer to that
- YuenglingJagr

"It's not their (insert one of the six 4th line plugs) job to score."

PSG was dealing earlier
- Mononoke

Feathers ruffled

There's a game tonight.
- Mononoke

It's mental health awareness night.

It's mental health awareness night.
- dragonoffrost

I'm the only one who still believes

"It's not their Boyd Gordon job to score."
- PLindbergh31

I'm the only one who still believes
- Mononoke

female dog please. Check out my favorite team

Sam Carchidi‏Verified account @BroadStBull now45 seconds ago

Nick Cousins (one goal in last 20 games), will be replaced tonight by Roman Lyubimov (one goal in last 23 games) for #Flyers.


I wonder how many goals Bellemare has in his last 20 games.
- PLindbergh31

Mocking Meltzer while leveraging a Carchidi tweet now? You really know the bright minds of hockey in Philadelphia don't you? I guess it takes one to know one.

I know you don't. Here it is in a nutshell. You're all over the place. You post that certain players aren't good 5 on 5 players such as Schenn and Simmonds. You make excuses for Giroux and say well he's still a top PP player, and his decline is expected due to his age. Their defense isn't good enough, and that the organization favors the wrong kind of players and failed in not re-signing a player like Gagner. All of that points to roster and talent issues. Then to top it all off, you claim that Hakstol is the common denominator, and his scheme is why they aren't scoring enough goals.
To be clear, I have no issue with placing some of the blame on the head coach, that's fair. What I have an issue with is placing all of the blame on him, and in particular, his scheme or system. That's ridiculous.
- MJL

You're basically paraphrasing a bunch of my statements into an ill-fitted argument. The underperformance at even strength can be both poor coaching AND a lack of roster talent.

Simmonds - Just because I believe Simmonds isn't good at even strength doesn't mean I think he's bad. He's just not a guy who is going to influence possession much. He won't hurt you, but he won't help you. His even strength scoring is that of a low end 2nd liner. He's obviously elite on the PP and his ability to kill penalties adds to his versatility. He's also established himself as a leader and seems to be very well liked by his teammates. Those intangible things do matter to me. I just think it's a little strange when people put him in the untouchable category and leave him out of the blame game. He's two years from the end of his deal and this team doesn't appear to be trending towards contention within the next two years. Re-signing him on top of already having Giroux and Voracek going into their 30s seems very dangerous to me. That's why I'd look to move him this offseason. I appreciate him, but I'm just trying to be sensible about team building

Schenn - Schenn is worse than Simmonds at even strength. He negatively affects possession and scores at more of a 3rd line rate for most of his career (please spare me the "He scored a lot last year!" argument). His true value is on the PP where he has shown to be a good finisher. While Simmonds has worked to diversify his game, Schenn has become more of a one-trick pony. If the Flyers found someone who could play the middle of the diamond as well as Schenn on the PP, they likely wouldn't miss a beat without him.

Giroux - I'm not making excuses for him. He is clearly in decline and not worth the amount of his salary. From an on ice standpoint, he'll never be worth that salary again. Part of signing a guy to a long-term deal is acknowledging that you're getting the desired production upfront, but will, ultimately, overpay on the back end. If Giroux can get back to giving the team 25-30 points at even strength while continuing his stellar PP work, I think they can salvage the contract. I think that's reasonable enough. I just don't think it's a good idea to trade him because his value has never been lower. I don't believe he's as bad as he's been this year, so in my mind, they'd be selling low on him anyway. He also means a lot to the organization. For any Flyers fan between the ages of 16-25, he's likely their favorite player. That poop matters.

The Gagner thing is just part of a bigger picture problem. The Flyers aren't scoring under Hak and it's hard to point to the players as the singular reason why. I would, personally, go in another direction with the coach, but I'm not going to be upset if Hak is back. Maybe he can make adjustments that get them better looks at the net.

The players haven't played well, Hexy didn't help the roster and the coach hasn't coached well. All of those things can be true.

If you want to be worried for a Flyers defensive prospect, with respect to fan expectations, be worried for Morin.
- johndewar

No worries here on that one - I have low expectations so there's nothing but upside for me. lol

blown quote but funny comment
- YuenglingJagr

lol

Mocking Meltzer while leveraging a Carchidi tweet now? You really know the bright minds of hockey in Philadelphia don't you? I guess it takes one to know one.
- Baxter27

Start listing teams that have 4 or 5 regular forwards who have zero or 1 goal in their last 20 games. Eagerly await the list.