Karlsson for the Norris, Burns for the Hart!!
- LeftCoaster

Burns is having an incredible season. Its funny,
years 1 to 5: Dion was the best dman from that draft
Years 6 to 10: Weber was the best dman from that draft
Years 10 to ???: All Burns.

hey tanner, did you use to post here under the alt UG?

Burns is having an incredible season. Its funny,
years 1 to 5: Dion was the best dman from that draft
Years 6 to 10: Weber was the best dman from that draft
Years 10 to ???: All Burns.
- mykokes

You gorgot Byfooolugiylian

hey tanner, did you use to post here under the alt UG?
- Tumbleweed

Karlsson has won 2 Norris trophies. Constantly in the running for it. The narrative he is over looked is old and lazy.
- Newgod77

Karlsson fan bois scream and pout because the rest of the world doesn't see things their way.

You gorgot Byfooolugiylian
- AdamFrench

Nice pick at #245

I have to say, it was a privilege to watch him play in the arena last night. They guy plays nearly 30 minutes a game and does so it seems without breaking a sweat. I saw no issues with his defense last night, albeit we are not the offensive dynamo 99% of the rest of the NHL teams are. I keep hoping OEL will be the 2nd coming of Karlsson, but he's a bout a rung or two below. Granite, he is playing on a team that can't control the puck and we keep putting him out there with garbage pair D. Once he gave away the puck in OT and I saw Karlsson had it, I started for the exit.

I do think at some point OEL will be up there with Karlsson. I just hope that we in AZ get to enjoy it before his prime has past....
- gmiel1980

Maybe if he broke a sweat he'd be better defensively, produce a little more, and have another Norris trophy.

Maybe his teams would make the playoffs and get further than they normally do too.

6-2 win over Ottawa last night? way to call it.

hey tanner, did you use to post here under the alt UG?
- Tumbleweed

sorry what?

Bigger question/dilemma to answer

Is Karlsson better than Gardiner?
- uf1910

At what?

sorry what?
- James_Tanner

Are you or aren't you Unholy Goalie.
You appeared on the blog scene right around the time he and all his alts ceased to exist. He used to drive up hits on all the Leaf blogs too. You've always been a suspect in my books.

Chauncey?
- spatso

I tried making this joke several times.

It's waaaaaay too highbrow for this crowd.

Which is a shame, because Jake=Chauncey.

Karlsson has this stigma attached to him which the average hockey fan assumes.

People think he is the same guy as he was in his first three seasons, a point producing, strictly offensize D-man who isn't good in his zone. But what people dont get is he is dominant in his own zone just as much as the opposition.

It's not even close. The guy is the best defenceman and offensive dman in the world. Period. He shouldve won last year as well, he shouldve won the year PK won, but had his achilles injury. Last year though took the cake of people who just don't know how good he is. The fact he lost to Doughty is brutal as he was far and away better. He has never played with a true #2 or even a #3 Dman. Methot is borderline a 3, but more like a 4.

Now, there is this year. He is on another planet all-together. The guy dominates in every zone. He leads the lead in blocked shots. Plays PK. PP. You name it. He changed his game to suit the style of the coaches system and still controls the play.

Now, Burns is good. But he isnt in the same breath as Karlsson. He has two Norris' already and by the end of this season, he should have 5. This whole thing that its 'Burns time' like it was Doughty's time, is nausiating. Scoring 30 goals is impressive. But when you are compared to Mike Green, Kevin Hatcher etc, that isnt anything to ride home about. Karlsson should be in the conversation for the Hart. Shouldnt win, but he should be mentioned in that breath.

Hi James!

Just wondering what your thoughts are on the Flames now, considering you think they're a terrible team, your own words for about half the season.

Are we singing a different tune now or is it all luck?!

Karlsson fan bois scream and pout because the rest of the world doesn't see things their way.
- prock

No, you just dont watch his dominance on a regular basis and probably just go on the narrative of the MSM who doesnt either.

"He has holes in his game"

"He makes too many errors"

"He is one-dimensional"

"He doesnt play PK. Doesnt defend"

Etc. Etc. Etc.


All of this is completely false. Like factually 100% wrong.

I tried making this joke several times.

It's waaaaaay too highbrow for this crowd.

Which is a shame, because Jake=Chauncey.
- Atomic Wedgie

Karlsson has this stigma attached to him which the average hockey fan assumes.

People think he is the same guy as he was in his first three seasons, a point producing, strictly offensize D-man who isn't good in his zone. But what people dont get is he is dominant in his own zone just as much as the opposition.

It's not even close. The guy is the best defenceman and offensive dman in the world. Period. He shouldve won last year as well, he shouldve won the year PK won, but had his achilles injury. Last year though took the cake of people who just don't know how good he is. The fact he lost to Doughty is brutal as he was far and away better. He has never played with a true #2 or even a #3 Dman. Methot is borderline a 3, but more like a 4.

Now, there is this year. He is on another planet all-together. The guy dominates in every zone. He leads the lead in blocked shots. Plays PK. PP. You name it. He changed his game to suit the style of the coaches system and still controls the play.

Now, Burns is good. But he isnt in the same breath as Karlsson. He has two Norris' already and by the end of this season, he should have 5. This whole thing that its 'Burns time' like it was Doughty's time, is nausiating. Scoring 30 goals is impressive. But when you are compared to Mike Green, Kevin Hatcher etc, that isnt anything to ride home about.
- BodyCheckRadio

Of course Burns isn't mentioned in the same breath as Karlsson, because Burns is better...

No, you just dont watch his dominance on a regular basis and probably just go on the narrative of the MSM who doesnt either.

"He has holes in his game"

"He makes too many errors"

"He is one-dimensional"

"He doesnt play PK. Doesnt defend"

Etc. Etc. Etc.


All of this is completely false. Like factually 100% wrong.
- BodyCheckRadio

I do agree that 65 has become an all around, complete hockey player. No question there.

Of course Burns isn't mentioned in the same breath as Karlsson, because Burns is better...
- Flamin_Irishmin

Um. No - he isn't.

Burns is good, yes. But there is Karlsson then Burns, then everyone else. And I'd say Burns is still a few notches below at that.

sorry what?
- James_Tanner

Karlsson has this stigma attached to him which the average hockey fan assumes.

People think he is the same guy as he was in his first three seasons, a point producing, strictly offensize D-man who isn't good in his zone. But what people dont get is he is dominant in his own zone just as much as the opposition.

It's not even close. The guy is the best defenceman and offensive dman in the world. Period. He shouldve won last year as well, he shouldve won the year PK won, but had his achilles injury. Last year though took the cake of people who just don't know how good he is. The fact he lost to Doughty is brutal as he was far and away better. He has never played with a true #2 or even a #3 Dman. Methot is borderline a 3, but more like a 4.

Now, there is this year. He is on another planet all-together. The guy dominates in every zone. He leads the lead in blocked shots. Plays PK. PP. You name it. He changed his game to suit the style of the coaches system and still controls the play.

Now, Burns is good. But he isnt in the same breath as Karlsson. He has two Norris' already and by the end of this season, he should have 5. This whole thing that its 'Burns time' like it was Doughty's time, is nausiating. Scoring 30 goals is impressive. But when you are compared to Mike Green, Kevin Hatcher etc, that isnt anything to ride home about. Karlsson should be in the conversation for the Hart. Shouldnt win, but he should be mentioned in that breath.
- BodyCheckRadio

Blah blah blah.

Karlsson fan bois are so obnoxious. HE'S THE BESTEST, I SWEAR IT.

Um. No - he isn't.

Burns is good, yes. But there is Karlsson then Burns, then everyone else. And I'd say Burns is still a few notches below at that.
- BodyCheckRadio

Not this year. Burns is better. Last year, Doughty was.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

Are you or aren't you Unholy Goalie.
You appeared on the blog scene right around the time he and all his alts ceased to exist. He used to drive up hits on all the Leaf blogs too. You've always been a suspect in my books.
- mykokes

I don't even know who you're talking about. I can tell you that I definitely do not have any alt accounts and that I never posted on HB before I was hired.

Hi James!

Just wondering what your thoughts are on the Flames now, considering you think they're a terrible team, your own words for about half the season.

Are we singing a different tune now or is it all luck?!
- Flamin_Irishmin

With the emergence of Hamilton as an elite player and the second line really just tearing it up, I have to say I really like the Flames now.

I still worry about their overall depth and Brian Burkes fingerprints on the team, but they're doing better than I thought they would, absolutely. I don't consider them as lucky as say the Senators or Canadiens to have their record.

I don't even know who you're talking about. I can tell you that I definitely do not have any alt accounts and that I never posted on HB before I was hired.
- James_Tanner

James, everyone in the HB community knows who UG is. Me thinks your's is a denial a little to entrenched in unholy truth.