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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
so out of curiosity you guys were all over jhs a week ago for his "issues" and being immature. now that you've seen him play and play well hes all good? I mean you have had a chance to see him post game and here him speak, so do you think it was him or the powers that be saying he was a problem?
- Upstate_isles


He has always been a good kid. He was just immature. His issues were never NBA or NFL type issues. He was not getting DWI's or beating up women. He was Late and cocky. He talked too much and did not play enough defense. It's silly they keep bringing it up at this point.

He has always been very cool to kids when he was at the rink... always.. big smile, autographs, engaging..etc.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
so out of curiosity you guys were all over jhs a week ago for his "issues" and being immature. now that you've seen him play and play well hes all good? I mean you have had a chance to see him post game and here him speak, so do you think it was him or the powers that be saying he was a problem?
- Upstate_isles


From reading about prior issues, sounds like he has grown up a bit. It is what it is. Apparently he was very immature thought he knew better than everyone else and has now realized he doesn't know everything. Sounds like a typical teenager growing up.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
so out of curiosity you guys were all over jhs a week ago for his "issues" and being immature. now that you've seen him play and play well hes all good? I mean you have had a chance to see him post game and here him speak, so do you think it was him or the powers that be saying he was a problem?
- Upstate_isles


My guess is both. I think he needed to get his head right. So far it looks like he has. I just hope some success doesn't make him regress.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
Lightning managed to beat the Minnesota Wild 4-1 despite losing Vladislav Namestnikov, Tyler Johnson and Cedric Pacquette in the process.

Tampa had 3 centers get hurt last nigh tin their game.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
My guess is both. I think he needed to get his head right. So far it looks like he has. I just hope some success doesn't make him regress.
- JimmyP

I think hes actually working harder at this point, no question hes a ball of energy out there. everything he does is full speed and even his stickhandling is great, stands out with it and I cant wait to add barzal as he plays a fast game too
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
so out of curiosity you guys were all over jhs a week ago for his "issues" and being immature. now that you've seen him play and play well hes all good? I mean you have had a chance to see him post game and here him speak, so do you think it was him or the powers that be saying he was a problem?
- Upstate_isles


Kids grow up. Thompson did a nice job twisting his nutz down in BP and the kid has played well up here. That said it's only 4 -5 games and theres plenty of time to put your foot in your mouth or miss a team bus or be late to practice, which we know he was capable of, unfortunately.

Look lets face it, the kid was not chosen for the CWJ team and was past up by many in the draft because of issues even though he had better skill and raw talent then most players chosen before him.
"We" on Hockey Buzz didn't make him spew shat from his mouth to the media saying he would be the best in his draft in 3 years or that the CHA don't know what their doing when they past on him, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
This Site also didn't make him miss his first practice with The Islanders and also show up late at BP for a game. There is a history of the kid phucking up. That said people grow up and I hope for his sake he continues to play well and most importantly, act like a professional and do the jersey he's wearing proud.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Kids grow up. Thompson did a nice job twisting his nutz down in BP and the kid has played well up here. That said it's only 4 -5 games and theres plenty of time to put your foot in your mouth or miss a team bus or be late to practice, which we know he was capable of, unfortunately.

Look lets face it, the kid was not chosen for the CWJ team and was past up by many in the draft because of issues even though he had better skill and raw talent then most players chosen before him.
"We" on Hockey Buzz didn't make him spew shat from his mouth to the media saying he would be the best in his draft in 3 years or that the CHA don't know what their doing when they past on him, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
This Site also didn't make him miss his first practice with The Islanders and also show up late at BP for a game. There is a history of the kid phucking up. That said people grow up and I hope for his sake he continues to play well and most importantly, act like the professional and do the jersey he's wearing proud.

- nyisles7

Just because I like breaking your balls, I'd like to point out that Cam Talbot was late to work this year, Gaudreau/Monahan last year.

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
I don't know if you watched the game, but he had a shift with about 4 minutes left in regulation that was ridiculous. Really impressed me the way he fought, kept the puck either on his stick or close enough and then made a pass after 30-40 seconds of fighting.
- potvin05


I sure did and that was an awesome shift
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
There are currently 46 players in the AHL with numbers 50+. The highest was 92. Take it for what it's worth.
- Isleshockeyman


Well there you go
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
Kids grow up. Thompson did a nice job twisting his nutz down in BP and the kid has played well up here. That said it's only 4 -5 games and theres plenty of time to put your foot in your mouth or miss a team bus or be late to practice, which we know he was capable of, unfortunately.

Look lets face it, the kid was not chosen for the CWJ team and was past up by many in the draft because of issues even though he had better skill and raw talent then most players chosen before him.
"We" on Hockey Buzz didn't make him spew shat from his mouth to the media saying he would be the best in his draft in 3 years or that the CHA don't know what their doing when they past on him, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
This Site also didn't make him miss his first practice with The Islanders and also show up late at BP for a game. There is a history of the kid phucking up. That said people grow up and I hope for his sake he continues to play well and most importantly, act like a professional and do the jersey he's wearing proud.

- nyisles7


people forget that these are kids. Think about all the stupid things you did when you were 19,20 yrs old and suddenly oversleeping once doesn't sound too crazy.

Ho Sang Looks great out there. Also I think its about time I and maybe some of you can swallow some pride and say Ladd and Chimera look like good pickups. they doing exactly what they were intended to do.
I cant believe after that horrible start (he was injured too) - Ladd is up to 19 goals.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
The Ho Bo line.... now get Barzal involved too.

Ho-Sang can absolutely Fly.. excited to see this kid's upside. I liked how he looked with Strome too.

- niteislander

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
Just because I like breaking your balls, I'd like to point out that Cam Talbot was late to work this year, Gaudreau/Monahan last year.


- eichiefs9

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Just because I like breaking your balls, I'd like to point out that Cam Talbot was late to work this year, Gaudreau/Monahan last year.


- eichiefs9

Ovechkin was benched for not setting alarm too

https://www.nhl.com/news/...mbers-march-9/c-287511726
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
people forget that these are kids. Think about all the stupid things you did when you were 19,20 yrs old and suddenly oversleeping once doesn't sound too crazy.

Ho Sang Looks great out there. Also I think its about time I and maybe some of you can swallow some pride and say Ladd and Chimera look like good pickups. they doing exactly what they were intended to do.
I cant believe after that horrible start (he was injured too) - Ladd is up to 19 goals.

- Spartiarti

isles are one of the best teams since the 20 game mark, they are like 3rd or 4th I believe. could be 30 game mark
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think hes actually working harder at this point, no question hes a ball of energy out there. everything he does is full speed and even his stickhandling is great, stands out with it and I cant wait to add barzal as he plays a fast game too
- Upstate_isles


I don't doubt that. Unfortunately players with his history have sophomore slump written all over them. I'm not saying it's going to happen. Hopefully being with the big club and seeing first hand the effort guys like JT put in will keep him on track.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
I don't doubt that. Unfortunately players with his history have sophomore slump written all over them. I'm not saying it's going to happen. Hopefully being with the big club and seeing first hand the effort guys like JT put in will keep him on track.
- JimmyP

this is good if you have the time
https://hockeypdocast.com...50-stranded-on-an-island/
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Just because I like breaking your balls, I'd like to point out that Cam Talbot was late to work this year, Gaudreau/Monahan last year.


- eichiefs9


Then I guess JHS was right and everyone else is wrong. My god the inhumanity just picking on a random kid. The NHL is notorious for that

Look your not breaking my balls, I have a company and when someone is late I get it. When someone comes in with a reputation of being late, have a big mouth and is un coachable or not a team player because he knows better than everyone else and I hire them and give them a shot and they are late miss the most important meeting of their career, etc, Then there's a problem. It doesn't matter who else was late. He gave himself the reputation and baggage, no one else did, and quite honestly it looks like he might have finally learned that you need to take blame for your Phuck ups and quit blaming it on others. You want to play with the pros and be on a pro team you need to act and be a pro.
I hope the kid has a unbelievable career because we could us it. He's made a good impression so far
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 10 @ 12:47 PM ET
Then I guess JHS was right and everyone else is wrong. My god the inhumanity just picking on a random kid. The NHL is notorious for that

Look your not breaking my balls, I have a company and when someone is late I get it. When someone comes in with a reputation of being late, have a big mouth and is un coachable or not a team player because he knows better than everyone else and I hire them and give them a shot and they are late miss the most important meeting of their career, etc, Then there's a problem. It doesn't matter who else was late. He gave himself the reputation and baggage, no one else did, and quite honestly it looks like he might have finally learned that you need to take blame for your Phuck ups and quit blaming it on others. You want to play with the pros and be on a pro team you need to act and be a pro.
I hope the kid has a unbelievable career because we could us it. He's made a good impression so far

- nyisles7

I'm just messing with you. I'm pretty much done with the entirety of the Ho Sang talk, regarding his number, past issues, etc... (in general, not specifically with you). The #66 talk seems to have died down and playing well pretty much shuts up your detractors about anything so it's time to just have fun watching the kid play.

He's electric with the puck and it's awesome to see. He's been pretty damn good away from the puck too. As someone else pointed out earlier, he had shift in the 3rd last night where he was getting the crap beat out of him and his motor never changed gears. That shift reminded me of the ridiculous WJC PK-shift that Cizikas had years ago, it was really awesome to see. I can deal with a goofy-ass cocky kid as long as he's busting his ass on the ice.

The kid's playing great so far in a small sample and I'm just gonna enjoy that.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
I'm just messing with you. I'm pretty much done with the entirety of the Ho Sang talk, regarding his number, past issues, etc... (in general, not specifically with you). The #66 talk seems to have died down and playing well pretty much shuts up your detractors about anything so it's time to just have fun watching the kid play.

He's electric with the puck and it's awesome to see. He's been pretty damn good away from the puck too. As someone else pointed out earlier, he had shift in the 3rd last night where he was getting the crap beat out of him and his motor never changed gears. That shift reminded me of the ridiculous WJC PK-shift that Cizikas had years ago, it was really awesome to see. I can deal with a goofy-ass cocky kid as long as he's busting his ass on the ice.

The kid's playing great so far in a small sample and I'm just gonna enjoy that.

- eichiefs9


I know that

I think we should all sit back and enjoy it.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
I know that

I think we should all sit back and enjoy it.

- nyisles7

anders lee 6th round pick
staple said jt called jack after he was fired and apologized for him being fired cause he didnt play and lead enough......stand up guy right there
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
anders lee 6th round pick
staple said jt called jack after he was fired and apologized for him being fired cause he didnt play and lead enough......stand up guy right there

- Upstate_isles


He didn't want to burn that bridge with Cappy because you never know maybe jack is an assistant on the Leafs when he goes there
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
He didn't want to burn that bridge with Cappy because you never know maybe jack is an assistant on the Leafs when he goes there
- nyisles7

staple says in this interview halak was hurt a lot and isnt a hard worker, and wasnt the most cheery guy in the room. translation, the players dont like him and hes lazy
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
He didn't want to burn that bridge with Cappy because you never know maybe jack is an assistant on the Leafs when he goes there
- nyisles7




Cappy does not see like an Uncle Lou type of coach.

It was nice of JT to call Cappy and take the heat. Maybe Cappy changing the lines every 5 seconds among other things did not help?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
staple says in this interview halak was hurt a lot and isnt a hard worker, and wasnt the most cheery guy in the room. translation, the players dont like him and hes lazy
- Upstate_isles



Before or after the 3 goalie circus? Big difference imho.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
this is good if you have the time
https://hockeypdocast.com...50-stranded-on-an-island/

- Upstate_isles


It was interesting. The way he described the Berube is more or less what I thought happened. I do wish they discussed why Halak isn't the backup right now.
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