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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: It's nice that the media is so concerned about Jack Eichel's "plight"
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
As I mentioned though, the rebuilding was in place a bit longer with those teams than it has been with Buffalo. Not that Buffalo has been good for what, 2-3 years prior to the 2 tank seasons, but they weren't complete bottom feeders like Chicago and Pittsburgh were (without me looking back for solid numbers).

And at least in Chicago's case, they hit on at least one deep draftee in that period who is a main core piece that Buffalo doesn't have like that in a top d-man.

- stashu

Agreed, but our GM made the moves to speed it up.

The article is basically saying - Your superstar is playing like a superstar, where's the rest of your team at?

If anything, it's just the headline that's misleading. We aren't wasting Eichel's career, just an incredible season for a 20 year old
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
Agreed, but our GM made the moves to speed it up.

The article is basically saying - Your superstar is playing like a superstar, where's the rest of your team at?

If anything, it's just the headline that's misleading. We aren't wasting Eichel's career, just an incredible season for a 20 year old

- sbroads24

ding ding
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Ugh...helping one of my kids with homework and one of the reading comprehension questions asks "how does this connect to the story?". Kept getting it wrong, saying the word wasn't even in the story (it is), and the latest answer written:

"It doesn't connect to the story."

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Agreed, but our GM made the moves to speed it up.

The article is basically saying - Your superstar is playing like a superstar, where's the rest of your team at?

If anything, it's just the headline that's misleading. We aren't wasting Eichel's career, just an incredible season for a 20 year old

- sbroads24

I'm not gonna lie, I'm curious if the ankle is still an issue for him at all. I know that if the media were to ask he'd say it was fine even if there were still lingering issues.

But, if it is still nagging him a bit, it would be pretty crazy to see what he may be doing if it wasn't.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
Hey I think you deleted a post I was about to reply to...

But I explained it above. I mean, my life experiences are mostly with working-class/poor as that's pretty much what I am, not gonna sugar-coat it.

It's not so much about learning how to read a contract as it is being thrust into life with no skills, college opportunity or life experience and being told to "FIND A JOERB".

According to our President Elect, there's 94 MILLION unemployed adult citizens in America. I did some math before he said this last week, and my number was more around 50 Million unemployed.... But even then that's ridiculous.

Add in about 10 million in all the branches of the ARMY and reserves and somewhere around 60 million jobs in about 10 different fields and manufacturing isn't even one of them, with less than 2 million manufacturing jobs at this point in America and you have a lot of people with no work to go around.

That's why so many uneducated/poor/trash people end up joining the service thinking it's their way up in life. But they simply don't have the know-how to see further than "I'm getting out of my dirt town and doing something with my life" 90% of whom end up back in their dirt town working in a factory. Nor do they have the education to make a career out of it, nor do they have the smarts to play the system.

There's a reason the poor stay poor and the rich get richer, that's how the system is set up.

- BeadyEyedDouche


I didnt delete it. Someone else did.

But the Military offers a lot.. a lot of people don't take advantage that is on them. I was brought up in a well-off family but i worked my ass off and graduated early, had my parents sign off and joined on my 17th birthday (my best friend was killed 2 months into his first tour so i wanted nothing but to be a grunt) The military really made my life better. It was my first "job" the discipline, attention to detail etc. are skills that i would never have gotten anywhere else. I turned that into great jobs since the day i got out. I have no Schooling beyond high school, yet i am a manager at a fortune 500 company. Life is all about what you make out of it. I take 18 pills a day, so no one can use the excuse of PTSD and all that other crap. Most people that claim that stuff and talk about their service are the ones who never deployed or saw anything. The quiet ones, the ones that put their head down and keep it moving are the ones who saw their best friends killed, families destroyed and the true affect of war. I see no excuse why anyone can not succeed in this country. Sorry for rambling and getting off track. Back to sports please! HOOAH!
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Mar 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
I didnt delete it. Someone else did.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I don't get it.

But even if we were vehemently disagreeing, which I don't think we are, this is still stuff that people should and can talk about in order to better understand different perspectives and people's different experiences. I'm speaking from interactions with poor and working-class veterans, not personal experience. Family members, too. Most of them don't have a high opinion of the military and a lot of it stems from the way they were treated after their active duty.

Edit to your edit: I'm on the fence but more leaning toward military enlistment being mandatory for males in the US... Like a 6-18 month assignment for basic training to learn said discipline...

But you say you were well off to begin with, and I think that probably played more into your discipline and ethics because you most likely had those resources available to you in the form of proper parenting. Which a lot of people don't and they really can't function in society because of it. Neither parents nor school is giving them that discipline, so making a mandatory enlistment after graduation that teaches them skilled trades, work preparation, discipline and etc... Would be best for this country post 9/11 IMO.

And this is coming from someone who is the furthest thing from Nationalist or Patriotic. I've even quit a job because of their military contracts. But I'm reasonable and logical at the same time, and despite my opinions about the institution of the American military, I think mandatory enlistment would be better for youth in the long run.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
I didnt delete it. Someone else did.

But the Military offers a lot.. a lot of people don't take advantage that is on them. I was brought up in a well-off family but i worked my ass off and graduated early, had my parents sign off and joined on my 17th birthday (my best friend was killed 2 months into his first tour so i wanted nothing but to be a grunt) The military really made my life better. It was my first "job" the discipline, attention to detail etc. are skills that i would never have gotten anywhere else. I turned that into great jobs since the day i got out. I have no Schooling beyond high school, yet i am a manager at a fortune 500 company. Life is all about what you make out of it. I take 18 pills a day, so no one can use the excuse of PTSD and all that other crap. Most people that claim that stuff and talk about their service are the ones who never deployed or saw anything. The quiet ones, the ones that put their head down and keep it moving are the ones who saw their best friends killed, families destroyed and the true affect of war. I see no excuse why anyone can not succeed in this country. Sorry for rambling and getting off track. Back to sports please! HOOAH!

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I worked with someone that was in the Marines and spent time in the Middle East on more than one occasion. If you ask him about it, he'll tell you about his experiences. He was lucky to make it out of there alive. He's never told me "I have PTSD" but he has mentioned that sometimes he has nightmares about things he saw there. That exactly how he put it to me. He very well could have said it was PTSD, but didn't.

My grandfather (who will be 98 in July) was in WWII. My dad said he has a ton of stories, but that it's best to not ask him about them, so I never really have. He's never talked about it on his own. So I can totally relate to what you're saying.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
Romo traded to the Texans?
- Mentalorgasm5

Wow! Good call if it happens.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:24 PM ET
I worked with someone that was in the Marines and spent time in the Middle East on more than one occasion. If you ask him about it, he'll tell you about his experiences. He was lucky to make it out of there alive. He's never told me "I have PTSD" but he has mentioned that sometimes he has nightmares about things he saw there. That exactly how he put it to me. He very well could have said it was PTSD, but didn't.

My grandfather (who will be 98 in July) was in WWII. My dad said he has a ton of stories, but that it's best to not ask him about them, so I never really have. He's never talked about it on his own. So I can totally relate to what you're saying.

- HonkFortheGoose



Exactly. But ask a kid who handed out pens about war, they will claim PTSD and they killed 50 people. People who have gone through things, don't want to re-live it or talk about it. I'm logging off for the day. Got a little emotional. Sorry peeps! Go Sabres!
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Mar 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
I worked with someone that was in the Marines and spent time in the Middle East on more than one occasion. If you ask him about it, he'll tell you about his experiences. He was lucky to make it out of there alive. He's never told me "I have PTSD" but he has mentioned that sometimes he has nightmares about things he saw there. That exactly how he put it to me. He very well could have said it was PTSD, but didn't.

My grandfather (who will be 98 in July) was in WWII. My dad said he has a ton of stories, but that it's best to not ask him about them, so I never really have. He's never talked about it on his own. So I can totally relate to what you're saying.

- HonkFortheGoose


I think you'll also get a very different experience from those who've enlisted both in WWI and WWII and post 9/11 and those who were drafted into Vietnam and Korea. Especially since WWI and WWII were a completely different beast in terms of trench warfare in European countryside vs guerilla warfare in Southeast Asian jungle.

I've known people who've come out and told me they saw their friend's face get shot off right next to them and people who won't even talk about basic training, let alone deployment. Everyone will cope differently depending on what they see and who they are.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
Bills twitter just put out - "Stay woke Bills fans"

Hmmmm
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 9 @ 4:29 PM ET
Bills twitter just put out - "Stay woke Bills fans"

Hmmmm

- sbroads24


they are going to trade a 2nd round pick for Osweiler
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
Bills twitter just put out - "Stay woke Bills fans"

Hmmmm

- sbroads24



holy poop did the really say that?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
they are going to trade a 2nd round pick for Osweiler
- robz228

Michah Hyde
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
Vic Carucciā€¸Verified account @viccarucci 1m1 minute ago

#Bills sign S Micah Hyde and S Jordan Poyer among 5 FAs.


Who?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 9 @ 4:35 PM ET
Michah Hyde
- sbroads24

That's not stay awake worthy. I like it though.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:35 PM ET
That's not stay awake worthy. I like it though.
- Hatboro_Swords



Who is Poyer?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 9 @ 4:36 PM ET
Who is Poyer?
- Stripes77

No clue either. I was talking about Hyde.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:37 PM ET
No clue either. I was talking about Hyde.
- Hatboro_Swords



I know who Hyde is, there are still holes to fill but that's a good start
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
That's not stay awake worthy. I like it though.
- Hatboro_Swords

http://www.baltimorebeatd...und-corner-ravens-packers
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 9 @ 4:39 PM ET
sign college ufa's
sign euro ufa's
sign undrafted kids in the jrs


sign petersen
sign asplund

put kulikov on waivers and send him to rochester

anything but give away your so called captain in rochester

- homiedclown





WOW! Step off the ledge sir

Cal wanted out... no big deal to oblige him
Kulikov is hurt... so "sending him" anywhere won't be done
Signing Petersen... dude, you're just freaking out now
Petersen is STILL PLAYING in the playoffs for ND right now
He's really gonna sign NOW & quit on his team before the season is over?

I'm not even gonna address the rest of these

Dude, I get your frustration...
but take a breath
The offseason will be here soon enough & moves will be made

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 9 @ 4:39 PM ET
Who is Poyer?
- Stripes77


He's a decent safety, nothing to write home about. He was the one that got blindsided and lost a kidney or something like that. I know he was hospitalized, I thought was the beginning of last year. Can't seem to find the article.

Edit: Here we go: http://www.cleveland.com/...yer_lacerated_kidney.html
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:40 PM ET
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/25/14715616/sleepers-on-the-2017-free-agent-market-micah-hyde-the-all-around-corner-ravens-packers
- sbroads24



Does he replace Aaron Williams or is he part of a replacement of Robey-Coleman and Gilmore?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:42 PM ET
Does he replace Aaron Williams or is he part of a replacement of Robey-Coleman and Gilmore?
- Stripes77



According to the Bills app he is a safety...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 9 @ 4:43 PM ET
Does he replace Aaron Williams or is he part of a replacement of Robey-Coleman and Gilmore?
- Stripes77

Williams I think. I have never seen him actually start at corner.

I like him a lot though.
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