Give this a read, you pessimistic (frank)s

http://sports.yahoo.com/n..._src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
- TheSabresTaco

Exactly what I thought earlier as why they won't make the lists public

if that were my sister-in-law, I'd visit my brother more often
- Whatnot78

I have a thing for naomi

They won't have to expose anyone other than Fowler, Vatanen, or Manson.

Theodore and Montour won't need to be exposed.
- sbroads24

You're forgetting Lindholm, and Bieksa has a NMC which means he is protected unless they can offload him.

http://planmyteam.com/NHL/ProtectPlayers?teamid=1

If a QB can manage a game well and the defense actually plays well..... YES
- rapperray

I realize it's the job of every franchise to try and win as many games as possible. I realize that's what the Bills are trying to do. I also realize that they've done a version of this same thing for many years and keep getting the same poor results. If they like Tyrod, great, but they better start drafting QBs every year until they find a better one.

Why is there politics? Go in a chat room the 2 of you or 3. This is hockey, (Football today)
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I was going to post some links to political message boards, but then decided not to as I wasn't talking hockey at that time either.

my sister-in-law grew up in USSR and didn't share those same thoughts
- Whatnot78

Being male vs. being female could make all the difference, as well as which country you grew up in. I'm not trying to say it was all rose pedals and butterflies, nor was he. Because, like I've said, USSR was a dictatorship and that's never good for the people.

You're forgetting Lindholm, and Bieksa has a NMC which means he is protected unless they can offload him.

http://planmyteam.com/NHL/ProtectPlayers?teamid=1
- kingcong39

No, Im not. They aren't exposing either one. I'm saying they will be exposing one of Manson, Fowler or Vatanen, (Or trading one)

Exactly what I thought earlier as why they won't make the lists public
- Stripes77

I was going to post some links to political message boards, but then decided not to as I wasn't talking hockey at that time either.
- HonkFortheGoose

I refrained


for the record

Being male vs. being female could make all the difference, as well as which country you grew up in. I'm not trying to say it was all rose pedals and butterflies, nor was he. Because, like I've said, USSR was a dictatorship and that's never good for the people.
- BeadyEyedDouche

she was in what's now Ukraine, so that may have been worse off than say Moscow

Fun fact: There has actually never been a communist based economy, and capitalism has died a long time ago in the good old US of A.
- Mentalorgasm5

Well, pretty much, yeah. Socialism and what-not. But people have no clue what actual communism is and the "Red-scare" in America left a bunch of traumatized old white dudes crying commie at anyone who isn't a Nationalist/Patriot/Capitalist.

But capitalism didn't die, it's stronger now than it's ever been. People still consume like gluttons, inflation is still rapid and mass produce is rampant. Capitalism is flourishing, alive and well.

I realize it's the job of every franchise to try and win as many games as possible. I realize that's what the Bills are trying to do. I also realize that they've done a version of this same thing for many years and keep getting the same poor results. If they like Tyrod, great, but they better start drafting QBs every year until they find a better one.
- Khmylev

I agree.... Lets not forget though that Cardale Jones is truly an unknown commodity at this point.... I would like to see him after being #2 to see how much he is capable of...

I refrained


for the record
- homiedclown

I'll mark it on my calendar.

she was in what's now Ukraine, so that may have been worse off than say Moscow
- Whatnot78

Sure, sure. The guy I knew wasn't just tooting the Soviet horn, far from it. I asked him why he left Ukraine, and this was post-Soviet... actually post 9/11 too, I think (he was pretty much fresh off the boat).

He just shook his head and said it was very, very bad. If you're Jewish, female, black, etc.... It's a patriarchal society, at the end of the day.

I'll mark it on my calendar.
- HonkFortheGoose

What's a calendar? I'm a millennial

What's a calendar? I'm a millennial
- sbroads24

Oh, it's an app on your iPhone.

Sure, sure. The guy I knew wasn't just tooting the Soviet horn, far from it. I asked him why he left Ukraine, and this was post-Soviet... actually post 9/11 too, I think (he was pretty much fresh off the boat).

He just shook his head and said it was very, very bad. If you're Jewish, female, black, etc.... It's a patriarchal society, at the end of the day.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Her family is Jewish too, so they left in the 80s. Settled in Buffalo. At least they didn't have to acclimate to the weather.

Oh, it's an app on your iPhone.
- BeadyEyedDouche

What's a phone? Is that like a voice texter?

No, Im not. They aren't exposing either one. I'm saying they will be exposing one of Manson, Fowler or Vatanen, (Or trading one)
- sbroads24

How are they only going to be exposing one of them based on taking either 7 & 3 or 8 skaters?

2 of the 3 you mentioned will be exposed due to Lindholm and Bieksa.

http://planmyteam.com/NHL/ProtectPlayers?teamid=1

I agree.... Lets not forget though that Cardale Jones is truly an unknown commodity at this point.... I would like to see him after being #2 to see how much he is capable of...
- rapperray

We are so far behind everybody else. At least they took a QB finally but Cardale? After they drafted Manuel they wouldn't even put anybody on the team to compete with him. Since Brady was drafted, the Patriots have drafted more QBs than we have. That's poor management.

I refrained


for the record
- homiedclown

Noted.

Oh, it's an app on your iPhone.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I agree.... Lets not forget though that Cardale Jones is truly an unknown commodity at this point.... I would like to see him after being #2 to see how much he is capable of...
- rapperray

I honestly thought he looked great in the Pre-Season last year. Given his "rough around the edges" stigma.

People have no clue what communism actually is, either.

Hint: It's an E C O N O M I C system and simply the opposite of C A P I T A L I S M.

Unfortunately, most governments that try to have a communist economic system were fascist and bordering on dictatorships in the first place. It's a lot easier for a totalitarian government to control and monitor it's people when it implies communist or socialist economic systems. The state owns everything.

And people act like the banks don't own everything in America.

I used to work with a Ukrainian guy, hilarious dude, and I asked him about Communist USSR. How it was to live, politics aside.

He said it was great. You are practically given a car, a job, a house and land by the government, his example was "Loaf of bread? 1 dollar in January, 1 dollar every day all year." They send you on vacations, state sponsored vacations. You work 6 months, then you're off six months. Or any combination of 3 on 3 off or a 2-2-3.

But - he said - you didn't own anything at the end of the day except material possessions like furniture and what-not but that was more because the totalitarian government than the communist policy.

But when you die in America who gets your stuff? If you think it's your "kids" then you're going to die happy. If they do they just sell it back to the government/corporations/bank anyway.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Buddy of mine just put his folk's house on the market. They passed away last year. 1,500 sq. ft. in Silicon Valley.. Cupertino. Will sell in one day with multiple offers. $1.8 million and it'll be cash. House was paid off years ago ........... he splits it with his brother and sister.

How are they only going to be exposing one of them based on taking either 7 & 3 or 8 skaters?

2 of the 3 you mentioned will be exposed due to Lindholm and Bieksa.

http://planmyteam.com/NHL/ProtectPlayers?teamid=1
- kingcong39

Several teams will probably try and trade for 1 of them before the draft