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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think we should stop trading 1st. We need steady pipeline of talent every year. Hopefully next year its Guhle in a 3rd pairing role and possibly Nylander (i don't think he will be ready)
- jzabawa



Manson is better than anyone we can take with our first rounder and is young
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
I have to admit it was A LOT more fun watching games when many of first joined this site nearly 10 years ago, when there were little to no advanced stats and we didn't have to worry who was playing better despite being up 2 or 3 goals on the scoreboard.

Analytics, at least for me, have taken a good bit of fun out of the game.

- kingcong39



I still have fun with it, gives you a better understanding vs the tired old " something wrong with the culture of the team" nonsense
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
2017 1st for Manson?

I doubt you'd need to add more than that.

EDIT:

he is a RHD though.

- thatsapickle



I would do it. pair him with mccabe make that your shut down pairing
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:20 AM ET
Question for the group

When is the draft lottery and when is the expansion draft?

If the expansion draft is before the draft lottery I would not move that 1st rounder
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
Edit: deleting, had the wrong draft year...derp
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
Question for the group

When is the draft lottery and when is the expansion draft?

If the expansion draft is before the draft lottery I would not move that 1st rounder

- Stripes77


Expansion Draft June 21

Entry Draft June 23 - 24
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
Question for the group

When is the draft lottery and when is the expansion draft?

If the expansion draft is before the draft lottery I would not move that 1st rounder

- Stripes77



draft lottery is shortly after regular season ends.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I still have fun with it, gives you a better understanding vs the tired old " something wrong with the culture of the team" nonsense
- Sabresfan-365


It is tough for me to enjoy the game while thinking about possession, Corsi, etc.

It feels like more and more people are not enjoying games even if the team is winning, due to the advanced stats.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
CC bandit and Stash
- Sabresfan-365


sweet...that and 2 other 4ths may have been enough to get the amazing talents available in the 3rd round!!!!!!!!!
jzabawa
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
Manson is better than anyone we can take with our first rounder and is young
- Sabresfan-365

agreed, but I don't believe a 1st gets it done. He's young and under control for his next contract. I think Anaheim will want more
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
Expansion Draft June 21

Entry Draft June 23 - 24

- Der Kaiser



Thanks

For some reason I thought the expansion draft was earlier but that doesn't make sense with the playoffs still going
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:26 AM ET
agreed, but I don't believe a 1st gets it done. He's you and under control for his next contract. I think Anaheim will want more
- jzabawa



They also have to worry about losing a D for nothing to Vegas so they might take a first
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:26 AM ET
draft lottery is shortly after regular season ends.
- Sabresfan-365


Don't recall when, just know it happens during the playoffs, so definitely prior to expansion
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:27 AM ET
Thanks

For some reason I thought the expansion draft was earlier but that doesn't make sense with the playoffs still going

- Stripes77


Vegas has 5 days of negotiation with all RFAs prior to the draft as well. I think if they sign one away from a team, that counts as the team's loss in the draft.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:28 AM ET
sweet...that and 2 other 4ths may have been enough to get the amazing talents available in the 3rd round!!!!!!!!!
- stashu


You are horribly undervaluing the very easy selections of

Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Daniel Alfredsson
Henrik Lundqvist
Pekka Rinne
Joe Pavelski
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:28 AM ET
2017 1st and nylander probably gets you something inbetween lindholm and that second group of Brodin and co.
- Sabresfan-365

nylander to the flames for tj brodie and a decent prospect say Morgan Klimchuk

offer the first rd pick to ducks, preds wild and get the best right d man
lets go with Manson plus a prospect Nicolas Kerdiles

dump off bogo, gorges for whatever pick or prospect you can get
same for moulson, and ennis

sign petersen, let him and ullmark compete for backup job

sign marleau on a 1 year deal
sign tanner glass for 4th line on 1 year deal

kane, eichel, reinhart
marleau, ror, okposo
foligno, girgens or asplund, bailey
glass, girgens or larsson, gionta

brodie-risto
mccabe-manson
guhle-falk

fedun-nelson


lehner
ullmark/pedersen



Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
Vegas has 5 days of negotiation with all RFAs prior to the draft as well. I think if they sign one away from a team, that counts as the team's loss in the draft.
- stashu


Here is my question if they sign a RFA does the team have the option to match?

stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
Here is my question if they sign a RFA does the team have the option to match?
- Stripes77


Yeah, still typical RFA negotiations I would think
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Mar 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
Expansion Draft June 21

Entry Draft June 23 - 24

- Der Kaiser


Give a 3rd, a middling prospect and ask Vegas to take Bogo. We have to get out from that long-term albatross contract.

We are going to be good next year.

mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
nylander to the flames for tj brodie and a decent prospect say Morgan Klimchuk

offer the first rd pick to ducks, preds wild and get the best right d man
lets go with Manson plus a prospect Nicolas Kerdiles

dump off bogo, gorges for whatever pick or prospect you can get
same for moulson, and ennis

sign petersen, let him and ullmark compete for backup job

sign marleau on a 1 year deal
sign tanner glass for 4th line on 1 year deal

kane, eichel, reinhart
marleau, ror, okposo
foligno, girgens or asplund, bailey
glass, girgens or larsson, gionta

brodie-risto
mccabe-manson
guhle-falk

fedun-nelson


lehner
ullmark/pedersen

- homiedclown


Not a bad plan. If only GMTM could excute it.
jzabawa
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
You are horribly undervaluing the very easy selections of

Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Daniel Alfredsson
Henrik Lundqvist
Pekka Rinne
Joe Pavelski

- Der Kaiser

yes, late picks happen. But far and few in between. Plus add the Sabres drafting to that mix = NOT HAPPENING

edit: what late round pick do we have? Miller, Campbell and ??
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
Ek has the perfect article up for this sunshine squad here!!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 6 @ 11:33 AM ET
sweet...that and 2 other 4ths may have been enough to get the amazing talents available in the 3rd round!!!!!!!!!
- stashu



gives you a lottery ticket is all im saying. Would you not trade Kulikov for a Borgen like prospect? gives you a chance at something in exchange for nothing.
jzabawa
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:33 AM ET
They also have to worry about losing a D for nothing to Vegas so they might take a first
- Stripes77

I think they move Fowler
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
Ek has the perfect article up for this sunshine squad here!!
- stashu


I already chimed in.
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