What's with this Luke guy ? why is he bringing up Matthews? is this guy some kind of nut. Sure we got screwed on McDavid but we still won with Eichel.

I do agree with him i'm really tired of this losing crap all these years.
- SABRES 89

Thanks for reminding me, I totally forgot to listen to that after my workout.

You should take a flying frank at a rolled hose.
- Der Kaiser

Nope.

You should take a flying frank at a rolled hose.
- Der Kaiser

What's a Frank?

What's a Frank?
- Larsson_fan

- Buffalo--Sabres

Nice....only ever been to one MLB ballpark....loved the Fenway franks. Anybody have an opinion on the best ball park frank in the USA?

CJGflyers 390.50
deplorable lives matter 630.00

What's a Frank?
- Larsson_fan

I'm not in the least bit surprised that you have no familiarity with a frank.

In fact, I would have been surprised if you ever had. Potato loser.

I'm not in the least bit surprised that you have no familiarity with a frank.

In fact, I would have been surprised if you ever had. Potato loser.
- Der Kaiser

Awe...muffin...cheer up

CJGflyers 390.50
deplorable lives matter 630.00
- homiedclown

Nice . Keep it going .. Repre-sent !

Wow.
Someone needs a prescription.
https://mobile.twitter.co...mp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
- seedy

Told ya it was epic

Awe...muffin...cheer up
- Larsson_fan

Chicks dig wrestling gifs.

Hasn't mom called you upstairs for dinner?

Chicks dig wrestling gifs.

Hasn't mom called you upstairs for dinner?
- Der Kaiser

Ummm....who does anything on hockey buzz with the thought of chicks digging it or not in mind? You're such a weirdo

So my thoughts on Luke:


I give Luke a pass for nearly crying on air. He witnessed this in person. He witnessed the very very predictable collapse and there was nothing he could do about it. He dealt with the ridicule.

Myself, I am actually far more emotional about this than Luke. I have very few outlets to express my frustration because my opinions are unpopular and make people uncomfortable.

But from the start I have not been a Terry (foam finger) Pegula fan. I thought the idea of him and his vision at first were very exciting. But he got off on the wrong foot immediately and within a day of him taking over I was skeptical. I knew it would be hard to back up all the pomp and circumstance with results. Even worse, the pressure and lack of planning has made delivering on those results and ANY results for that matter even more difficult. And yes like Luke, this will transfer to the Bills. Only in our world would the Pegula's also acquire the Bills and have a cookie cutter, face plant type of circus tire fire occur. And It's been 6 years since Terry took over, more than half a decade. Let's stop kidding ourselves about learning curves.

Back to the Sabres: All the Sabres have is one thing: JACK EICHEL.

Our farm team(Rochester Americans) and their farm team(Elmira Jackals) are both in DEAD LAST in their respective leagues. I follow both teams. They never win. Ever. Either of them. The barn isn't stocked at all. This is it. This is the culmination of 2.5 years of absolutely quitting at life. Murray had the most insane stockpile of picks, prospects, cap room and an owner willing to spend maybe ever, and he totally blew it. You would think with Pegula's billions and willingness to spend it would at least show up a little in the minors. I would think any crazy billionaire could at least buy a playoff team at that level.

Now I know you're all thining, "But ROR, Risto, Sam, Kane, Nylander??????"

Yeah nice players. But let's not kid ourselves, none of them are Crosby, Malkin, Burns, Ovi, Kucherov, P Kane. They just aren't. They are very good players that could be ditched and our owner could back the Brinks truck up and get others. Our coach sucks, our goalies suck, especially that guy we traded a first for. Pittsburgh is really high and Ruhwedal. Imagine that.

We suck. We have failed in every possible way, except we acquired Jack Eichel. The rest is just filler. Just crap.


Blow it the (frank) up.

So my thoughts on Luke:


I give Luke a pass for nearly crying on air. He witnessed this in person. He witnessed the very very predictable collapse and there was nothing he could do about it. He dealt with the ridicule.

Myself, I am actually far more emotional about this than Luke. I have very few outlets to express my frustration because my opinions are unpopular and make people uncomfortable.

But from the start I have not been a Terry (foam finger) Pegula fan. I thought the idea of him and his vision at first were very exciting. But he got off on the wrong foot immediately and within a day of him taking over I was skeptical. I knew it would be hard to back up all the pomp and circumstance with results. Even worse, the pressure and lack of planning has made delivering on those results and ANY results for that matter even more difficult. And yes like Luke, this will transfer to the Bills. Only in our world would the Pegula's also acquire the Bills and have a cookie cutter, face plant type of circus tire fire occur. And It's been 6 years since Terry took over, more than half a decade. Let's stop kidding ourselves about learning curves.

Back to the Sabres: All the Sabres have is one thing: JACK EICHEL.

Our farm team(Rochester Americans) and their farm team(Elmira Jackals) are both in DEAD LAST in their respective leagues. I follow both teams. They never win. Ever. Either of them. The bard isn't stocked. This is it. This is the culmination of 2.5 years of absolutely quitting at life. Murray had the most insane stockpile of picks, prospects, cap room and an owner willing to spend maybe ever, and he totally blew it.

Now I know you're all thining, "But ROR, Risto, Sam, Kane, Nylander??????"

Yeah nice players. But let's not kid ourselves, none of them are Crosby, Malkin, Burns, Ovi, Kucherov, P Kane. They just aren't. They are very good players that could be ditched and our owner could back the Brinks truck up and get others. Our coach sucks, our goalies suck, especially that guy we traded a first for. Pittsburgh is really high and Ruhwedal. Imagine that.

We suck. We have failed in every possible way, except we acquired Jack Eichel. The rest is just filler. Just crap.


Blow it the (frank) up.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Now now....I have seen first hand rebuilds go sideways ( or in reverse if you look at the Dallas Eakins seasons)....there is no need to blow this thing up. Seriously you need maybe a winger or a centre ( depending on Reinhart and where he develops) and a top pair LHD.
LHD are not that hard to find, it's the righties that are a rarity. They're not cheap, but they are out there. Ditto for wingers. You have a good draft pick this season, a year maybe 2 of development and you're fine. Temper your expectations, this team will contend, you just need patience.

Now now....I have seen first hand rebuilds go sideways ( or in reverse if you look at the Dallas Eakins seasons)....there is no need to blow this thing up. Seriously you need maybe a winger or a centre ( depending on Reinhart and where he develops) and a top pair LHD.
LHD are not that hard to find, it's the righties that are a rarity. They're not cheap, but they are out there. Ditto for wingers. You have a good draft pick this season, a year maybe 2 of development and you're fine. Temper your expectations, this team will contend, you just need patience.
- Larsson_fan

2 things.

1) You have to think back to the insane amount of resources I'm referencing. Tim Murray held all the cards. These players were hand picked. We shouldn't be having conversations about need 2 top D, A Center(centre) and whatever else. I wish I had a tracker I could show you that referenced the Picks, cap room and prospects we once held onto.

2) You guys don't land Mcdavid are you telling me this same thing right now?I don't think so. The Oilers were the rebuild gone wrong and everyone one said "watch out, they might become the Oilers." Mcdavid IS the savior of that situation. And I'll hear nothing else. Eichel is not good enough to be that guy, although I think he's great.

2 things.

1) You have to think back to the insane amount of resources I'm referencing. Tim Murray held all the cards. These players were hand picked. We shouldn't be having conversations about need 2 top D, A Center(centre) and whatever else. I wish I had a tracker I could show you that referenced the Picks, cap room and prospects we once held onto.

2) You guys don't land Mcdavid are you telling me this same thing right now?I don't think so. The Oilers were the rebuild gone wrong and everyone one said "watch out, they might become the Oilers." Mcdavid IS the savior of that situation. And I'll hear nothing else. Eichel is not good enough to be that guy, although I think he's great.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Murray screwed us by trying to speed this up. Period. We should have had 0 expectations last year, picked top 3, and had guys like Colin White, Roslovic etc in the system to grow with other prospects.

Now our hopes hinge on if Murray can miraculously find a team to trade a top 2 D man, and Brendan Guhle.

It's laughable.

2 things.

1) You have to think back to the insane amount of resources I'm referencing. Tim Murray held all the cards. These players were hand picked. We shouldn't be having conversations about need 2 top D, A Center(centre) and whatever else. I wish I had a tracker I could show you that referenced the Picks, cap room and prospects we once held onto.

2) You guys don't land Mcdavid are you telling me this same thing right now?I don't think so. The Oilers were the rebuild gone wrong and everyone one said "watch out, they might become the Oilers." Mcdavid IS the savior of that situation. And I'll hear nothing else. Eichel is not good enough to be that guy, although I think he's great.
- Buffalo--Sabres

I'll be the first to say that if mcDavid missed 30+ games this season we would be bottom 5 in the west. He absolutely is the savior. Aside from that if we hadnt won that lottery there would be no Sekeras or Lucic either....

But at the same time,if your bad enough to pick in the bottom 3 ( picking 1st over all or 3rd overall matters very little half the time) and it wasnt just a bad luck year ( like tampa Bay both times) then dont expect to be a playoff team anytime soon. You guys legit tore down the roster, give yourself 5 years. It wont take 7 or 8 like Edmonton....but you cant do it in 2 or 3 either.

And I agree, GMTM squandered a lot of assets.

Murray screwed us by trying to speed this up. Period. We should have had 0 expectations last year, picked top 3, and had guys like Colin White, Roslovic etc in the system to grow with other prospects.

Now our hopes hinge on if Murray can miraculously find a team to trade a top 2 D man, and Brendan Guhle.

It's laughable.
- sbroads24

THIS


When GMTM started throwing out first round picks like Mcdonald's burgers I was literally swearing and throwing poop. My wife and her friend actually walked in on me when I was doing it. I thought the point of the tank was to lock down Sam and Eichel then proceed slowly. I thought we would field a team Justin Baileys and Nick Baptiste's. We already had Tyler Ennis. I just thought we would let the kids grow without major expectations, and slowly replace the ones that weren't up to snuff. That's what they sold us and that's what I was on board for. I believed that was the right way to go because you have to evaluate a growing team. You have to see where pieces fit and adjust. It's like building a hot rod or tuner car. You don't buy 21 different parts, slap them all on and go to the track. You have to feel out how the car responds to one or two changes, troubleshoot issues, tweak and maximize each aspect of the car. Then keep doing that and in time you have a juggernaut.

I'll be the first to say that if mcDavid missed 30+ games this season we would be bottom 5 in the west. He absolutely is the savior. Aside from that if we hadnt won that lottery there would be no Sekeras or Lucic either....

But at the same time,if your bad enough to pick in the bottom 3 ( picking 1st over all or 3rd overall matters very little half the time) and it wasnt just a bad luck year ( like tampa Bay both times) then dont expect to be a playoff team anytime soon. You guys legit tore down the roster, give yourself 5 years. It wont take 7 or 8 like Edmonton....but you cant do it in 2 or 3 either.

And I agree, GMTM squandered a lot of assets.
- Larsson_fan

Sekera: Another guy I liked that we couldn't wait to run out of town.

Lucic: The right guy at the right time for Edm. He's got size, skill, toughness and experience. I would have loved him here but we were too busy jumping the gun signing the first guy we saw.


Edit: And Mcnabb. There was just to reason for us to discard Mcnabb. We threw away defencemen like they were nothing and no only Colorado has a worse defense. With our resources that's just not right. But hey at least we have Deslaurias.

THIS


When GMTM started throwing out first round picks like Mcdonald's burgers I was literally swearing and throwing poop. My wife and her friend actually walked in on me when I was doing it. I thought the point of the tank was to lock down Sam and Eichel then proceed slowly. I thought we would field a team Justin Baileys and Nick Baptiste's. We already had Tyler Ennis. I just thought we would let the kids grow without major expectations, and slowly replace the ones that weren't up to snuff. That's what they sold us and that's what I was on board for. I believed that was the right way to go because you have to evaluate a growing team. You have to see where pieces fit and adjust. It's like building a hot rod or tuner car. You don't buy 21 different parts, slap them all on and go to the track. You have to feel out how the car responds to one or two changes, troubleshoot issues, tweak and maximize each aspect of the car. Then keep doing that and in time you have a juggernaut.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Look at the great teams in the league. They don't just have an Eichel and some solid players around them. They have multiple stars.

Reinhart, Kane, ROR, Okposo are all good players. None of them are stars who can take control of games themselves

Sekera: Another guy I liked that we couldn't wait to run out of town.

Lucic: The right guy at the right time for Edm. He's got size, skill, toughness and experience. I would have loved him here but we were too busy jumping the gun signing the first guy we saw.


Edit: And Mcnabb. There was just to reason for us to discard Mcnabb. We threw away defencemen like they were nothing and no only Colorado has a worse defense. With our resources that's just not right. But hey at least we have Deslaurias.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Even if the GM does everything right over tje course of a 5 year rebuild, he's gonna need some luck. Think about this: 3 Centers, 4 top 9 wingers, 4 defenders and a goalie ( the rest of the players can be found easy enough)...that's 12 core players minimum. Even if after the tear down you have 5 of them in tne system, thats 7. The average quality draft program nets 1.5 players per year...so your looking at 4 draft years...plus throw in another year or two for development time...it takes 5 years with everything going right, and hope that good luck balances out the bad luck, and if everything doesnt go as planned ( injuries, busts, bad trades)...then you'll need some seriously great luck to stay on pace.

Look at the great teams in the league. They don't just have an Eichel and some solid players around them. They have multiple stars.

Reinhart, Kane, ROR, Okposo are all good players. None of them are stars who can take control of games themselves
- sbroads24

People might argue that point with you. But when you tune into sports, particularly sports that aren't your #1 or #2 favorite, you can still name the guys who will take over the game/match and their elite level dominance will show through(unless it's one hell of a bad day). Lebron, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Michael Phelps, Sydney Crosby, Mario Lemieux, Gretzky and so on. If you brought a non hockey fan to one Sabres game and told him nothing about the team, who on this team could you really count on that would make that type of impression? Only Eichel. The rest would depend on the day.

Look at the great teams in the league. They don't just have an Eichel and some solid players around them. They have multiple stars.

Reinhart, Kane, ROR, Okposo are all good players. None of them are stars who can take control of games themselves
- sbroads24

Ryan O Rielly has a bit of that in him but I agree about the other players. Crazy poop happens tho, and you have to hope to bemefit from it. Maybe someone in the west will demand a trade preferably to the East ? Maybe Kovalchuck wants to be a Sabre when he comes back?

Look at the great teams in the league. They don't just have an Eichel and some solid players around them. They have multiple stars.

Reinhart, Kane, ROR, Okposo are all good players. None of them are stars who can take control of games themselves
- sbroads24

Not in all cases though...and dont get caught up in the biggest annual myth perpetuated by NHL fans that you have to build and play like the most recent cup winners. Its a bunch of Malarkey. Boston didnt have multiple Stars. LA had a few, 3 or 4 at most, chicago was loaded across the board but the Pens were only stacked up front. You dont need stars if your well coached,have an identity and 100% commitment from the players.

Not in all cases though...and dont get caught up in the biggest annual myth perpetuated by NHL fans that you have to build and play like the most recent cup winners. Its a bunch of Malarkey. Boston didnt have multiple Stars. LA had a few, 3 or 4 at most, chicago was loaded across the board but the Pens were only stacked up front. You dont need stars if your well coached,have an identity and 100% commitment from the players.
- Larsson_fan

Outside of Boston, Pitt, LA and Chicago have multiple "Franchise" players.

Hell, Boston had Chara in his prime and Bergeron.