I don't know what to type .

So that puts the puck in the net ..
- cabin

He's not wrong. Our transition game is brutal which is why we have a hard time getting out of our zone.

We played (frank)ing arizona.

We've outchanced the opponent 5v5 something like only 11 or 12 times this year. we get brutally outshot most nights. I dont understand how this could still be a point of contention. nearly all of our frustrations with this team stem from the fact that our defence is awful.

Wingers are available all the time. defencemen are not. Thats all im saying. Broads is right, in a perfect world id keep him, sign him long term to be here along with 2 other d-men. But i can't see a scenario in which we can actually afford that both in terms of cap or in assets needed to acquire those d-men.
- Sabresfan-365

Hard choice . We lose Kane and we won't see an equal for years. And if we sign a ufa that wants to be here, would cost plenty. Odds that guy will stay healthy ? turn into a moulson? Ennis?
We don't have to look for one , we have him. Just have to extend him at a reasonable amount.

He's not wrong. Our transition game is brutal which is why we have a hard time getting out of our zone.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yes it does suck. I just want to know who replaces his goals ?
Remember when Roy was gone ? Those goals were never replaced and was the beginning of the suck.

Hard choice . We lose Kane and we won't see an equal for years. And if we sign a ufa that wants to be here, would cost plenty. Odds that guy will stay healthy ? turn into a moulson? Ennis?
We don't have to look for one , we have him. Just have to extend him at a reasonable amount.
- cabin

This may ultimately be what gets him moved. Even now its hard to really get what fair offer for him would be.

He's not wrong. Our transition game is brutal which is why we have a hard time getting out of our zone.
- HonkFortheGoose

not a slam on mccabe, but after watching him at world's last may I thought he was going to turn the corner with our transition game

he's not bad, I expected better

f@ck europe
- homiedclown

yea but it has paris and taking my girl there basically makes up for everything wrong i did and will continue to do

yea but it has paris and taking my girl there basically makes up for everything wrong i did and will continue to do
- Sabresfan-365

Nope doesn't work that way

This may ultimately be what gets him moved. Even now its hard to really get what fair offer for him would be.
- Sabresfan-365

I agree. I believe he will demand a 7 for 7 type deal maybe more. We may not be able to afford to keep him.

Nope doesn't work that way
- cabin

hey so far so good, dont takes this away from me!!

hey so far so good, dont takes this away from me!!
- Sabresfan-365

ok

I agree. I believe he will demand a 7 for 7 type deal maybe more. We may not be able to afford to keep him.
- lulags

only other scenario i can think of is if they luck into a situation where they can move an unbelievable amount of salary out without having to retain/buyout/take something back.

Did I mention today how much I hate Ennis and how much he sucks? WTF is he doing anywhere near the top line?

Franson looked pretty good last night. I think we will end up re-signing him for a year.

only other scenario i can think of is if they luck into a situation where they can move an unbelievable amount of salary out without having to retain/buyout/take something back.
- Sabresfan-365

Bogosian and a 3rd for a 6th/7th to LV with the agreement they take Moulson or Ennis.

only other scenario i can think of is if they luck into a situation where they can move an unbelievable amount of salary out without having to retain/buyout/take something back.
- Sabresfan-365

Pipe dream scenario:

Ennis, Moulson, Gorges, Bogo are all gone next year.

I'll take one bag of pucks for all of them.

We played (frank)ing arizona.

We've outchanced the opponent 5v5 something like only 11 or 12 times this year. we get brutally outshot most nights. I dont understand how this could still be a point of contention. nearly all of our frustrations with this team stem from the fact that our defence is awful.

Wingers are available all the time. defencemen are not. Thats all im saying. Broads is right, in a perfect world id keep him, sign him long term to be here along with 2 other d-men. But i can't see a scenario in which we can actually afford that both in terms of cap or in assets needed to acquire those d-men.
- Sabresfan-365

IMO, the writing was on the wall the moment he (frank)ed up during the draft, and they decided to pursue Okposo.

I can't think of another team that has locked up 5 big $$ forwards before they made the playoffs.

I agree. I believe he will demand a 7 for 7 type deal maybe more. We may not be able to afford to keep him.
- lulags

I dont think he will get that term from us, and def not on the FA market with his "history" even though he has been fine while in buffalo, besides calling in late.

Pipe dream scenario:

Ennis, Moulson, Gorges, Bogo are all gone next year.

I'll take one bag of pucks for all of them.
- thatsapickle

We have enough pucks .

Get some stick tape .

I dont think he will get that term from us, and def not on the FA market with his "history" even though he has been fine while in buffalo, besides calling in late.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

He'll get that from Vancouver, IMO.

Pipe dream scenario:

Ennis, Moulson, Gorges, Bogo are all gone next year.

I'll take one bag of pucks for all of them.
- thatsapickle

I would GIVE picks, for teams (LV) to take them.

We played (frank)ing arizona.

We've outchanced the opponent 5v5 something like only 11 or 12 times this year. we get brutally outshot most nights. I dont understand how this could still be a point of contention. nearly all of our frustrations with this team stem from the fact that our defence is awful.

Wingers are available all the time. defencemen are not. Thats all im saying. Broads is right, in a perfect world id keep him, sign him long term to be here along with 2 other d-men. But i can't see a scenario in which we can actually afford that both in terms of cap or in assets needed to acquire those d-men.
- Sabresfan-365

Major factor in all of this..$$$
Even IF you get that D man we all want/need without trading kane... You still have to pay that Dman.. So even if you somehow get that guy it needs to be for money in money out


Edit: many people mentioned this point already...

He'll get that from Vancouver, IMO.
- ImThatGuy

the 7mil. Yes, i think max term he gets anywhere is 5. And like i said before, ideal for us would be 4x6/6.5

Major factor in all of this..$$$
Even IF you get that D man we all want/need without trading kane... You still have to pay that Dman.. So even if you somehow get that guy it needs to be for money in money out
- yen6d1

And missing that scoring winger. Goals will suffer.

only other scenario i can think of is if they luck into a situation where they can move an unbelievable amount of salary out without having to retain/buyout/take something back.
- Sabresfan-365

Who fits that mold? Moulson, ROR, Okposo and Risto

We would have to retain 110% of moulson's salary for someone to take him and the rest I am assuming we want to keep vs lose to make room for Kane

I dont think he will get that term from us, and def not on the FA market with his "history" even though he has been fine while in buffalo, besides calling in late.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

If he would agree to a 5-5.5 for 5 I would say lock him down.