I love how Leafs fans now think they are experts on rebuilding.
There isn't one player in the league I'd trade Guldobin for.
- Scooby_Doo

Timbits league? Me neither.

I love how Benning made our team considerably worse and virtually guaranteed that we'll be fighting for last place overall for the foreseeable future - and everyone thinks he's doing a wonderful job!

His job isn't to get us Nolan Patrick, it's to get us the Cup. These trades guarantee we aren't even going to be competing for the Cup (heck, even the playoffs) until the 2020's at the earliest.

So, yes, he managed to get a good return. But, no, he didn't make our team any better in the short-run (or even the middle-run).

Also, just remember this... We have a team filled with AHL quality youngsters who need to learn - and we just gave away the only two veterans we had who always left everyting out on the ice. The only two. Wouldn't want the kids to pick up that habbit!
- stringerbell

You weren't going to be competing for the cup before 2020 either way. In fact, without getting rid of these guys and bottoming out, it would have been more like 2025.

Hell 2025 may be a best case scenario anyway.

You're right. We should have kept Burr and Hansen. He would have been praised for keeping the core together for another cup run.

You are wise.
- vancity787

I'll say the Canucks did alright. I think his point is, though, they seemingly left a lot on the table.

If Edler, Tanev, whatever, are signed through next year, no worries, it's a process. Can't expect it all to be done in one day.

I'll say the Canucks did alright. I think his point is, though, they seemingly left a lot on the table.

If Edler, Tanev, whatever, are signed through next year, no worries, it's a process. Can't expect it all to be done in one day.
- prock

None of the young dmen on the team are ready for hard minutes against top lines, they'd get lit up and probably start to lack confidence. Tanev just turned 27, no rush to move him at all. Edler, I'd look into moving out next year. Handle it the same way they did with Burrows/Hansen and ask for a list 7-10 days before the TDL.

Jim Benning wins, by somehow securing his job for at least another summer.

He got solid returns for both trades, but in the grand scheme of things he has still stalled the progress of the team.

The number of assets this clown has left on the table the last 3 years is laughable.
He's held onto expiring assets, thrown over valued contracts at 30+ year old players and paid premium rates to trade for bottom of the roster players, all in the name of pacifying an owner that's desperately holding on to the hope of playoff revenue, in spite of the window clearly being slammed shut.

He did a good job the past 48 hours, but not nearly enough to undo the damage of the past 3 years of delusion he has forced on the fanbase here.
Silver lining is, only 5 years of Loui Eriksson's bloated contract left.

None of the young dmen on the team are ready for hard minutes against top lines, they'd get lit up and probably start to lack confidence. Tanev just turned 27, no rush to move him at all. Edler, I'd look into moving out next year. Handle it the same way they did with Burrows/Hansen and ask for a list 7-10 days before the TDL.
- Nucker101

The confidence thing is overblown IMO. Trade out value, give the kids a taste for the final 20 games, start signing vets for 1 year in the offseason, who you'll probably be able to ship half out for more picks as well.

\Everybody has their own opinion on what works best, but that would be mine.

I'll say the Canucks did alright. I think his point is, though, they seemingly left a lot on the table.

If Edler, Tanev, whatever, are signed through next year, no worries, it's a process. Can't expect it all to be done in one day.
- prock

Anyone who knows anything about hockey would know it takes two to tango.

Firstly someone would want our player, Secondly we would ahve to consider it a fair deal for our side, Thirdly, Cap space is a rare commodity.

You cant just give away shytty contracts like Erikssons and expect people to jump all over it.

The confidence thing is overblown IMO. Trade out value, give the kids a taste for the final 20 games, start signing vets for 1 year in the offseason, who you'll probably be able to ship half out for more picks as well.

\Everybody has their own opinion on what works best, but that would be mine.
- prock

I'm all for that type of strategy but not a lot of teams have the balls to do it, so realistically I'm okay with keeping Edler/Tanev this year. Take go wouldn't move unless I got a great offer. Edler is definitely someone I'd look to deal and then sign a stopgap vet if need be to replace him for a year or 2 until more youth is ready.

sometimes you have to be REALLY BAD in order to become really good. Sometimes you have to rebuild, and sometimes you have to have really high draft picks.

Kane, Toews, Crosby, Ovechkin, Doughty, Malkin. Can you tell me what they all have in common?

I am just curious because you seem to understand hockey really well.
- Codes1087

Ohhh, I'm good at these.

None of them are Canucks or Alum?

All of them are Olympic athletes?

They've each dated tennis stars?

Yes my thinly veiled hate of a west coast team I barely remember exists on most days.
- James_Tanner

Zona Desert Dogs?

Anyone who knows anything about hockey would know it takes two to tango.

Firstly someone would want our player, Secondly we would ahve to consider it a fair deal for our side, Thirdly, Cap space is a rare commodity.

You cant just give away shytty contracts like Erikssons and expect people to jump all over it.
- vancity787

Hey Sherlock, you don't actually have to know a single (frank)ing thing about hockey to know that there are at least two parties involved in negotiating any deal.

(frank), what the hell is wrong with people from Vancouver.

Just like I don't know there was no deal to be made, you don't know they even made an effort. What we do know, they didn't get more than 2 trades done.

In some people's opinion, that's enough. In the other poster's opinion, it wasn't.

As I said earlier, it doesn't happen all at once, there is still time. I will say this though, to the poster that tried the sarcastic comparison to the Leafs, they did put together 5 trades, picking up 6 picks, at last years deadline. So, if that's the bar YOU'RE setting, they did fall WAY short.

I'm all for that type of strategy but not a lot of teams have the balls to do it, so realistically I'm okay with keeping Edler/Tanev this year. Take go wouldn't move unless I got a great offer. Edler is definitely someone I'd look to deal and then sign a stopgap vet if need be to replace him for a year or 2 until more youth is ready.
- Nucker101

Fair enough. I wouldn't be that reluctant to move Tanev though. What's the timeframe of a rebuild? 4 or 5 years? He'll be in heavy decline by the time the Canucks are respectable again.

Jim Benning wins, by somehow securing his job for at least another summer.

He got solid returns for both trades, but in the grand scheme of things he has still stalled the progress of the team.

The number of assets this clown has left on the table the last 3 years is laughable.
He's held onto expiring assets, thrown over valued contracts at 30+ year old players and paid premium rates to trade for bottom of the roster players, all in the name of pacifying an owner that's desperately holding on to the hope of playoff revenue, in spite of the window clearly being slammed shut.

He did a good job the past 48 hours, but not nearly enough to undo the damage of the past 3 years of delusion he has forced on the fanbase here.
Silver lining is, only 5 years of Loui Eriksson's bloated contract left.
- Vanoxy

Stalled the progress?? Dude, you're severely oversimplifying how difficult a job he has done. First of all, he had to deal with the previous moron who used to hand out NTC/NMC contracts like STDs in a whore factory.

In his first year, top brass was pushing for a playoff spot with an aging core and rookie coach - did you expect him to say "phawk off! i'm blowing things up right away? He, like anybody, wanted to keep his job before it even started.

Meanwhile he had ZERO prospects in the talent pool and had to focus the majority of his time replenishing. Draft-wise, how can you knock him? Boeser, Brisbois, MacKenzie, Gaudette, Demko, Tryamkin, Stetcher. (undrafted)

Last year, on the surface it seemed like he f-ed up but really did he? Hamhuis, Vrbata, Higgins, had his hands tied, if he had given them away for nothing, his reputation for negotiating would've been screwed.

As for Eriksson, name one team that doesn't have a player with a sh*tty contract?? I'll save you some time, you CANT, cus everybody got one, some teams more.

He adopted an organization that was in a hurricane of sh*t - and he's doing pretty damn good job of giving the future of the franchise a glimmer of hope.

Hey Sherlock, you don't actually have to know a single (frank)ing thing about hockey to know that there are at least two parties involved in negotiating any deal.

(frank), what the hell is wrong with people from Vancouver.

Just like I don't know there was no deal to be made, you don't know they even made an effort. What we do know, they didn't get more than 2 trades done.

In some people's opinion, that's enough. In the other poster's opinion, it wasn't.

As I said earlier, it doesn't happen all at once, there is still time. I will say this though, to the poster that tried the sarcastic comparison to the Leafs, they did put together 5 trades, picking up 6 picks, at last years deadline. So, if that's the bar YOU'RE setting, they did fall WAY short.
- prock

generalize harder please

generalize harder please
- Codes1087

You're right, it's not all of them. But spend 5 minutes in Schram's blog. The inmates are running the asylum. The guards have been chased away.

You're right, it's not all of them. But spend 5 minutes in Schram's blog. The inmates are running the asylum. The guards have been chased away.
- prock

you have to be specific... what are you saying we/some are going off about?

Stalled the progress?? Dude, you're severely oversimplifying how difficult a job he has done. First of all, he had to deal with the previous moron who used to hand out NTC/NMC contracts like STDs in a whore factory.

In his first year, top brass was pushing for a playoff spot with an aging core and rookie coach - did you expect him to say "phawk off! i'm blowing things up right away? He, like anybody, wanted to keep his job before it even started.

Meanwhile he had ZERO prospects in the talent pool and had to focus the majority of his time replenishing. Draft-wise, how can you knock him? Boeser, Brisbois, MacKenzie, Gaudette, Demko, Tryamkin, Stetcher. (undrafted)

Last year, on the surface it seemed like he f-ed up but really did he? Hamhuis, Vrbata, Higgins, had his hands tied, if he had given them away for nothing, his reputation for negotiating would've been screwed.

As for Eriksson, name one team that doesn't have a player with a sh*tty contract?? I'll save you some time, you CANT, cus everybody got one, some teams more.

He adopted an organization that was in a hurricane of sh*t - and he's doing pretty damn good job of giving the future of the franchise a glimmer of hope.
- Brooks_Light

Gotta feeling JB wont see the fruits of his labour. Sorta like Dale Tallon in Chicago, someone else will take JB's foundation and see some success with it

you have to be specific... what are you saying we/some are going off about?
- Codes1087

Where would I even start? It's a poopshow of stupidity in there.

You're right, it's not all of them. But spend 5 minutes in Schram's blog. The inmates are running the asylum. The guards have been chased away.
- prock

Thats because all you do is criticize everyone posting in the blog you troll. You get your god damn jollies out of pissing off all the canucks posters on this site. Why don't you hang out in the tumbleweed of a blog that is the preds

Stalled the progress?? Dude, you're severely oversimplifying how difficult a job he has done. First of all, he had to deal with the previous moron who used to hand out NTC/NMC contracts like STDs in a whore factory.

In his first year, top brass was pushing for a playoff spot with an aging core and rookie coach - did you expect him to say "phawk off! i'm blowing things up right away? He, like anybody, wanted to keep his job before it even started.

Meanwhile he had ZERO prospects in the talent pool and had to focus the majority of his time replenishing. Draft-wise, how can you knock him? Boeser, Brisbois, MacKenzie, Gaudette, Demko, Tryamkin, Stetcher. (undrafted)

Last year, on the surface it seemed like he f-ed up but really did he? Hamhuis, Vrbata, Higgins, had his hands tied, if he had given them away for nothing, his reputation for negotiating would've been screwed.

As for Eriksson, name one team that doesn't have a player with a sh*tty contract?? I'll save you some time, you CANT, cus everybody got one, some teams more.

He adopted an organization that was in a hurricane of sh*t - and he's doing pretty damn good job of giving the future of the franchise a glimmer of hope.
- Brooks_Light

Don't get me wrong here, he's drafted well in the late first and subsequent rounds, but he's blown huge opportunities in the top 10, and he's missed chances to gain extra late round picks, where he could play to his strength and gain quality prospects.

Spin it however you want, but he overpaid for a third pair defender and a third line C, inGudbranson and Sutter, when he could have used the 4 picks he traded, and still had McCann and Bonino filling out the roster.

For a guy who's biggest talent is late round drafting, he sure likes flushing away late round picks in exchange for overpaid, average players.

A lot of Canucks fans love to roll out the list of prospects he's added, but how about the list of products he passed on..... Ehlers, Nylander x2, Pasternak, Tkatchuk.
You can't honestly say that Virtanen, Boeser, Juolevi is a better prospect pool than any 3 of the guys i named.
I'll even give him credit for Boeser. The kid looks legit, and might end up being as good as Pasternak, but Virtanen/Juolevi will never compare to Ehlers/Tkatchuk or Nylander/Nylander.

Thats because all you do is criticize everyone posting in the blog you troll. You get your god damn jollies out of pissing off all the canucks posters on this site. Why don't you hang out in the tumbleweed of a blog that is the preds
- SRam19

Hey Sherlock, you don't actually have to know a single (frank)ing thing about hockey to know that there are at least two parties involved in negotiating any deal.

(frank), what the hell is wrong with people from Vancouver.

Just like I don't know there was no deal to be made, you don't know they even made an effort. What we do know, they didn't get more than 2 trades done.

In some people's opinion, that's enough. In the other poster's opinion, it wasn't.

As I said earlier, it doesn't happen all at once, there is still time. I will say this though, to the poster that tried the sarcastic comparison to the Leafs, they did put together 5 trades, picking up 6 picks, at last years deadline. So, if that's the bar YOU'RE setting, they did fall WAY short.
- prock

Wow, You're starting to make me wonder whats wrong with people in Nashville.

Chill bud.

Wow, You're starting to make me wonder whats wrong with people in Nashville.

Chill bud.
- vancity787

sorry I get frustrated with stupid people.

Wow, You're starting to make me wonder whats wrong with people in Nashville.

Chill bud.
- vancity787

They're drunk.
All of them.
And they're enjoying a competitive and entertaining hockey team.
I'm moving there ASAP. It sounds like a lot of fun.

sorry I get frustrated with stupid people.
- prock

Do you hate yourself?