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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
A raise for the goaltender with the worst save % in the league and an extension for a 4th line plug.
- PLindbergh31


For once you (frank)ing nailed it. Bleh bleh bleh.

They both got raises! On their worst seasons in the league.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
I may be in the minority with this move, but I'm ok w it. Of all the people pissed over this they're not looking at the term, two years, and money, 2.5. One, its short, giving Stolie a shot, two, it's a traceable contract, three, they HAD to sign one to protect the youngsters in the expansion draft, four, it's a reasonable salary for a capabke back up, and five, if they keep him, he is a serviceable mentor.
I'm not sure this in any way breaks the plan Hexy set, and gives options for any eventuality.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
stolarz
morin
sanheim
hagg
lindblom
vorobyov
weal
laughton
leier

who's a flyer next year?

- hammarby31



I can live with the slow re-tooling/re-building if they just let the kids sink or swim but thats me
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
A raise for the goaltender with the worst save % in the league and an extension for a 4th line plug.
- PLindbergh31



Hexy has not been very good in the players he has signed and the money\length he has signed players too.

VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
stolars
morin
sanheim
hagg
lindblom
vorobyov
weal
laughton
leier

who's a flyer next year?

- hammarby31



In all seriousness,

I think Stolarz backs up. Lindblom and Morin will start in the NHL. Leier and Laughton will both have 40+ games in the NHL (if not selected by LV). It's make or break for both of them.

Haag will either be traded or be up by mid-year, although there is talk of him being ready now, so he may start with the big club. Sanhiem will be in the AHL for the duration of next season.

Also, you have got Meyers. It's been said that he may be able to make the jump to the NHL by start of next year too.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
I just don;t think Neuvirth is a 55-60 game NHL starter. just don't
- nastyflyergirl


He can't handle it. The only possibility I see is that he's signed because they need one tender under contract to expose in the ED. If he doesn't get taken then he'll serve as Stollie's backup. If stollie isn't ready, then he'll be the main starter. If he gets hurt then your tandem is Lyon and Stollie. good luck.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hexy has not been very good in the players he has signed and the money\length he has signed players too.


- ggunky



Both deals are short and tradable next trade deadline if needed.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
so can we assume mason is gone and the plan is for stolarz to challenge Neuvirth for the job next year?

I do like Neuvirth, but mason is the better goalie, IMO.

perhaps they think Stolarz is ready to get a real shot and Neuvirth is really more of a backup.

- hammarby31


I think the plan is to protect Stolarz, expose Neuvirth, and if necessary roll into next season that way.

UFA prices on goalies and/or Neuvirth getting plucked would obviously result in plan B. Sign a UFA goalie or trade for one
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
On the plus side...they haven't resigned Vandevelde yet. That's all I got.

Hextall seems more focused on positioning himself for the expansion draft than getting assets for his impending UFAs.

I do think Streit, MDZ and Mason can still be traded with in the next hour or so. Those are his biggest chips.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
Both deals are short and tradable next trade deadline if needed.
- J35Bacher



what flavor kool-aid do you prefer?

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
I guess goalies with save percentages under .900 can get contracts
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
In all seriousness,

I think Stolarz backs up. Lindblom and Morin will start in the NHL. Leier and Laughton will both have 40+ games in the NHL (if not selected by LV). It's make or break for both of them.

Haag will either be traded or be up by mid-year, although there is talk of him being ready now, so he may start with the big club. Sanhiem will be in the AHL for the duration of next season.

Also, you have got Meyers. It's been said that he may be able to make the jump to the NHL by start of next year too.

- VladDrag


i forgot meyers.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
For once you (frank)ing nailed it. Bleh bleh bleh.

They both got raises! On their worst seasons in the league.

- Mononoke

Hold me.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
unless Neuvy has a NM, which i doubt, hextall could still move him. there's time. but i can't see why a team would want to do that...rather than just trade for him as a UFA.

i dunno.....

- hammarby31


Could it be that they'll go after Bishop?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
OH!
Well MOAT refused to waive his NTC to go to the Rangers thread.
BiggE is in the bottom of a bottle and no one can find him.
And Scoob has been designated to find jsaq and punch him in the right buttocks for half a bag of pucks.
So far nothing about you though. Course the day is still young.

- FlyersGrace

I'm still coherent

For now
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
According to Ek, Edmonton interested in Mason.



McDavid for Mason would seem legit.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
What are the chances they decide to go super young and potentially have Lyon and Stolarz if Nuevy goes down? Also maybe they bank on Sandstrom coming over?
- johm12

They will certainly sign another goalie that is capable of playing in the AHL, and I would expect an NHL caliber goalie if prices are right
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
He surfaced long enough to trade MDZ to the Habs for a bottle of 21 YR Balvenie Portwood...
- JW98FlyerFan

That would be a steal!
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
For once you (frank)ing nailed it. Bleh bleh bleh.

They both got raises! On their worst seasons in the league.

- Mononoke


It's a joke. Forget the message it sends to not only keep but give raises to mediocre players. The timing of the deals leads me to believe those 2 had suitors willing to pay some value for them.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
According to Ek, Edmonton interested in Mason.



McDavid for Mason would seem legit.

- hockeylover


Why would they trade McDavid....he still has term on his contract
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Even if full value isn't met for Streit and Del Zotto, they should still be traded.

- StepfordSam



what

if

no

other

team

wants

them

?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
According to Ek, Edmonton interested in Mason.



McDavid for Mason would seem legit.

- hockeylover


Manning would take him out in practice
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:22 PM ET
what

if

no

other

team

wants

them

?

- Scoob


lotta real estate to get that message across
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:22 PM ET
what flavor kool-aid do you prefer?
- ggunky



Purple drank.

But really both deals aren't anything in the long scheme.

Stolarz will be protected at expansion. Neuvirth and Him compete next season.

Mason has shown he doesn't like being a guy looking over his shoulder. Why have a young guy like Stolarz there knowing the franchise is looking for him to succeed.

That's just my feeling. Also most likely Mason would probably cost more.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:22 PM ET
I guess there're going to stick with who they know they take a shot in free agency. I'm on the fence with it. He's serviceable but can't trust him for 60+ starts.
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