Please. Just because he played on the top pair with Kimmo doesn't mean he was as good. Sometimes you get slotted where your deficiencies are masked by the strengths of your partner.
- dragonoffrost

If Couburn is better, it's not by much.

Coburn also played with much better Flyer teams.

Gudas played with Streit.
Coburn with Timonen and Pronger.
- MikesPillBottle

Coburn was pair with Pronger maybe twice in the three short seasons was here. Coburn played with Grossmann in the 2012 playoffs and helped shutdown Malkin.

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- JFlyers00

little curious to why re-signing the guy now which means needing to protect him if you want to keep him. I wouldn't sign anyone until after the expansion draft.

Radko Gudas isn't better than Brayden Coburn. Coburn was a top pair defenseman in Philly for just short of a decade. I'm sure his role has shorten in Tampa as he's gotten older but no, Gudas is not better than Coburn.
- SuperSchennBros

Never said Gudas was better than Coburn, but Coburn was never really a 1/2, he just filled that role here...my point is that Gudas is a 3/4 and that is what he plays here...in that transaction Hexy also got a 1st and 3rd...Gudas is filling the role he should on our team and really any NHL team.

Never said Gudas was better than Coburn, but Coburn was never really a 1/2, he just filled that role here...my point is that Gudas is a 3/4 and that is what he plays here...in that transaction Hexy also got a 1st and 3rd...Gudas is filling the role he should on our team and really any NHL team.
- JW98FlyerFan

Who called Coburn a 1\2 defenseman?

If Couburn is better, it's not by much.
- MJL

They have different strengths and weaknesses, but they're both serviceable #4 defenders. Coburn played like a good #2 during the 2010 run, when he played some of his most physical hockey. But when you factor in that we got Gudas and a 1st round pick that, combined with a late 2nd, got us Konecny, it was a good deal.

little curious to why re-signing the guy now which means needing to protect him if you want to keep him. I wouldn't sign anyone until after the expansion draft.
- nastyflyergirl

They like him but if taken in expansion it's not going to kill them. You need to expose players so the signing makes sense. He is a solid 4th line center and pk guy

Who called Coburn a 1\2 defenseman?
- SuperSchennBros

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omg Bryz at least he is making the day interesting. offsets having to look at Armstrong all day

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Still pending a trade call, so nothing official, but am told LA Kings and Colorado Avalanche finalizing a Jarome Iginla trade

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They like him but if taken in expansion it's not going to kill them. You need to expose players so the signing makes sense. He is a solid 4th line center and pk guy
- J35Bacher

point being just sign him after the expansion draft. I can take or leave him to its a whatever for me.

They have different strengths and weaknesses, but they're both serviceable #4 defenders. Coburn played like a good #2 during the 2010 run, when he played some of his most physical hockey. But when you factor in that we got Gudas and a 1st round pick that, combined with a late 2nd, got us Konecny, it was a good deal.
- jmatchett383

It was a very good deal but if the argument becomes who do I think is better Coburn or Gudas, my answer is Coburn.

Who called Coburn a 1\2 defenseman?
- SuperSchennBros

I guess it was unclear what you intended with your comment about Gudas when you commented about him being a "cornerstone of any defense"...it seemed like you thought we should not have taken him as part of the Coburn trade...so I will let you clarify if I am mistaken...

point being just sign him after the expansion draft. I can take or leave him to its a whatever for me.
- nastyflyergirl

He's a FA.

You need to have roster guys to expose. Guys on contract. If you don't sign him then maybe you have to expose Cousins or Laughton.

PEB resigning better mean Vandevelde is gone for good. We can not bring both of them back

There will be no flyer trades. Said this days ago.

No one Hextall is willing to trade has enough value to match hextalls perceived value of said players.

Mark Streit has 0 value
- MikesPillBottle

Been saying that for a long time.

It was a very good deal but if the argument becomes who do I think is better Coburn or Gudas, my answer is Coburn.
- SuperSchennBros

I think Coburn was better, but it's not by miles. He was a better puck mover and skated better, Gudas offers a more physical presence on the blue line with a heavier shot.

little curious to why re-signing the guy now which means needing to protect him if you want to keep him. I wouldn't sign anyone until after the expansion draft.
- nastyflyergirl

Obviously they want him back and they dont have to protect him.

It was a very good deal but if the argument becomes who do I think is better Coburn or Gudas, my answer is Coburn.
- SuperSchennBros

But is Coburn better than the 1st 3rd and Gudas? because that is the apples to apples comparison...with gudas stock still rising and Coburn on the back nine...

ek says iginla to kings. interesting.

He's a FA.

You need to have roster guys to expose. Guys on contract. If you don't sign him then maybe you have to expose Cousins or Laughton.
- J35Bacher

They already have Weise and Read to meet the exposure requirements. I don't see the expansion draft having anything to do with this.

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I would rather just kept King. Seems like a lateral move.

They already have Weise and Read to meet the exposure requirements. I don't see the expansion draft having anything to do with this.
- jmatchett383

Not bad at the TDL and you double your pay

If Hextall's idea of a successful trade deadline after a mediocre season is focusing on resigning his under achieving 4th line center and back up goaltender...we have some issues.